RMR-30 (Kel-Tec .22 WMR semi-auto Rifle in the works!)


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Domino
October 3, 2010, 01:23 PM
Even though the PMR-30 is just barely available it looks like Kel-Tec is already working on a rifle version. It looks a lot like the Grendel R31 back in the day, sort of like the HK MP7 or something. Very exciting!


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Mudd262/RMR30design1.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Mudd262/RMR30design2.jpg

http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1285484545/15

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amd6547
October 3, 2010, 01:37 PM
Now we're Talking.

trueg50
October 3, 2010, 02:24 PM
That is pretty sweet.

It is really sad that there aren't more 22 WMR semi-auto rifles available. If this does well maybe we will see a newer 10/22 magnum re-released (or some of the mp-5 clones in 22 mag).

thunder173
October 3, 2010, 02:40 PM
If the mags work for both the carbine and pistol,..with 30 rds of 22 magnum,...I see a possible future addition here...........

bigfatdave
October 3, 2010, 02:52 PM
If the mags work for both the carbine and pistol,..with 30 rds of 22 magnum,...I see a possible future addition here...........
Add in a .22LR conversion kit for each and I'd go on a waiting list without ever seeing one in person!

As it is, all that keeps me from going on my LGS's waiting list is never having held a pmr30, once I find one to manhandle and play with for a few minutes I'll probably be calling Dan and telling him to get me another of those impossible-to-find KT guns.

Clifford
October 3, 2010, 04:53 PM
I've been thinking of getting the handgun. It would make a great plinker/fun gun. Now with a carbine model possibly being released I'm gonna have to take a long look at both.

I'm thinking the carbine and handgun would make a great varmint calling combo. Not to mention it could serve as a truck/HD set as well.

cleardiddion
October 3, 2010, 04:59 PM
I like it!

Zanad
October 3, 2010, 05:03 PM
goodie goodie........


I wonder, will they make .22mag conversions for ar-15s when this comes out?

rangerruck
October 3, 2010, 09:33 PM
I hope they can make this reliable--- I had a ramline once, and the mags were hit/miss for working. I would still prefer it in a long bbl pistol, with a 30 round mag; but if they can get this working in a 30 round mag, with say a 10 inch bbl, that would be awesome, but it looks like it's gonna have a 16 inch bbl.
Imagine for a moment; that same pic above, but no stock, and the bbl cut down to about 1 or 2 inches in front of the housing. then on the bottom rail-- a small white light mounted at the rear, and on the top rail, a small red dot holo sight, with a green laser mounted just in front of that, also both on the rear of the rail. That way, if you leave enough room up front, you can make a holster for it. Total drool factor. Somebody here with the tools, can you draw that up?

Dr.Rob
October 4, 2010, 12:36 AM
That looks like it could be fun!

millertyme
October 4, 2010, 12:40 AM
I'll get one. You have to figure by the time this hits the market all the problems with its base, the PMR, will have been figured out. No jackrabbit is safe.

pikid89
October 4, 2010, 01:31 AM
Ill take one in 22LR please

atmay
October 4, 2010, 01:35 AM
I would be a lot more excited about this, and the idea of high-capacity rimfire firearms in general, if I didn't live in MA.

Looks pretty cool, though.

Dionysusigma
October 4, 2010, 03:49 AM
Want one, as long as it's within the price range of the Sub 2000 - SU-16 series. :)

Big_E
October 4, 2010, 04:00 AM
SBR anyone? :evil:

Kel-Tec always comes out with really cool and functional designs. Too bad a Saiga 12 and Garand are at the top of my buy list.

LHRGunslinger
October 4, 2010, 04:06 AM
Looks a bit like an HK MP7 with a really long barrel.

Jubjub
October 4, 2010, 04:51 PM
If it's reliable, that would make a dandy HD carbine, especially for the less burly folks. .22 WMR from a rifle length barrel is nothing to sneeze at.

snorko
October 4, 2010, 05:28 PM
Well, I said from the start that i wanted a folder version a la sub2k, but I guess this will do.

Sam Cade
October 4, 2010, 05:47 PM
Hmmmm...

http://www.excelarms.com/acceleratorrifle.html

Only 1/3 the capacity though.

Ohio Gun Guy
October 4, 2010, 06:31 PM
Count me in as interested!

CraigC
October 4, 2010, 07:01 PM
Very cool! Anybody see the Gunblast.com guys shoot the full auto version?

NewShooter
October 5, 2010, 09:27 AM
I like the sliding stock idea over a folder. I can see several uses for this gun whereas I couldnt see where I would use the pistol. I hope it comes without sights to keep cost down and let buyers choose their own. It may need some kind of forgrip though.

EdLaver
October 5, 2010, 10:23 AM
Looks like a winner if they can keep the bugs out and not have us all waiting on delayed release dates like they have with the PMR-30 and RFB.:scrutiny:

JShirley
October 5, 2010, 03:36 PM
If I can get one under $500, I'll buy it quick. Dandy significant-other gun, and I already have a lever rifle in .22 magnum as one of my HD pieces. A reliable autoloader would be even better.

stsimons
October 5, 2010, 04:52 PM
I will buy one if they end up making it. the PMR and the RMR would make a nice combo. Why is there always something I seem to need?

benzy2
October 5, 2010, 06:02 PM
I like the WMR but this looks blah to me. I guess though I would much rather see the 10/22 come back in 22MAG. I would really like a nice .22MAG hunting rifle.

bigfatdave
October 5, 2010, 09:36 PM
I hope it comes without sights to keep cost down and let buyers choose their own.

Bleh

I think that a set of basic aperture sights like the sub2000 sports wouldn't add a significant cost to the gun and would be a plus for those of us uninterested in putting optics on.

Domino
October 16, 2010, 10:13 PM
Some pics of the first prototype as taken from KTOG...

http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1285484545/75#75

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Mudd262/RMR30prototype1.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Mudd262/RMR30prototype2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Mudd262/RMR30prototype3.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Mudd262/RMR30prototype4.jpg

I must say it looks promising. Hopefully this means I will have mine by sometime next year!

JDMorris
October 16, 2010, 10:18 PM
If you have only .22 it would be reasonable for home defence.
but if there are better guns around would it not be more reasonable to aquire one of those for your purpose?

Domino
October 16, 2010, 11:38 PM
If you have only .22 it would be reasonable for home defence.
but if there are better guns around would it not be more reasonable to aquire one of those for your purpose?

Well, it would be pretty much just as viable as the PS90 or the MP7 I guess. Velocities should be around 1,900 fps with a 40g bullet and 2,200 fps with a 30g bullet. I wouldn't use it for "home defense" per say but it would be an awesome plinker.

CraigC
October 17, 2010, 01:49 PM
It would make a great utility rifle, capable of 99% of what needs doing on the farm.

I wouldn't buy one strictly for home defense but you could certainly do a lot worse than the .22Mag for such purposes. I've spent a lot of time in the field with the cartridge and killed enough critters to know that I sure as hell don't want to get shot with one!!!

Defense Minister
October 17, 2010, 10:49 PM
With it's compactness, light weight, high capacity, and inexpensive ammo, this could be the ultimate survival weapon, if there is such a thing.

My only hope is that they wouldn't end up selling for more than the MSRP like the PMR-30 is currently doing as I would have to have one!

Hanzo581
October 17, 2010, 11:16 PM
Wow, that prototype looks really good. If the price is right and it functions well, I may jump on it.

CraigC
October 18, 2010, 01:02 AM
My only hope is that they wouldn't end up selling for more than the MSRP like the PMR-30 is currently doing as I would have to have one!
I got a report that a shop about two hours from here is selling the pistols at $330.

Balrog
October 18, 2010, 01:06 AM
I wish they would make one in 9mm also.

PT1911
October 18, 2010, 01:12 AM
I wish they would make one in 9mm also.

It is called a sub-2000, also available in 40 cal.

EdLaver
October 18, 2010, 10:45 AM
looks cool with the Magpul MBUS, an SBR version would be cool too.

Girodin
October 18, 2010, 02:15 PM
Looks like a cool idea, time will tell how well it is executed. Kel tec has lots of cool ideas their execution of them is often lacking, but for the most part they are pretty cheap so that off sets it for a fun gun.

I wont lie though, I wish they were putting more time and effort into getting the RFB made in any significant quantities rather than working on new projects.

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