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EnderWiggin
October 3, 2010, 11:31 PM
Hello everyone. I am new to the whole concealed carry scene. I plan on carrying with a Crossbreed Supertuck inside the waistband (IWB) holster.

My question to you guys/gals is: What do you do when you go to your significant other's house and lie on a couch or bed to watch TV? It would be terribly uncomfortable to keep your holster on while lying down but if you take it off and place it somewhere, there is the danger that someone may grab it and discharge the weapon. Now before you start saying "Just don't lie down", let me say that that is not an option since a lot of times we like to lie together and watch TV/movies.

So that said, how would you guys approach this scenario? I do not want to leave my weapon in the car because 1) it's a pain 2) what if I need it while in her house? I also don't want to set it down somewhere in her house because she lives with her parents and sister and thus there is the possibility of someone else getting their hands on a firearm that you are responsible for.

Just want to know your thoughts on the situation. Also, if anyone else has any other scenarios where something like this came up feel free to post it and explain how you resolved it. The more concealed carry scenarios I can read about the better prepared I will be once my holster arrives.

Thank you.

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Monkeyleg
October 3, 2010, 11:36 PM
I lie down all the time with the gun and holster on. Doesn't bother me at all. I can sleep with it on.

Of course, your gun and holster probably feel different, or you wouldn't be asking. ;)

Sky
October 3, 2010, 11:38 PM
ankle holster?

EnderWiggin
October 3, 2010, 11:38 PM
Well I have yet to receive my holster so I do not know how it will feel but I would assume an IWB at it's appropriate position (3-4pm positions) would be felt when lying down. Correct me if I'm wrong.

By the way, my weapon of choice is the Glock 26.

M-Cameron
October 3, 2010, 11:39 PM
honestly....the chances of you ever needing it Inside the house are really really small.......

unless you are in a neighborhood where break-ins are a common occurrence...ide be willing to say its a safe bet youd be just fine with out it....

.....i would just leave my gun in the car......

Cap'n Jack Burntbeard
October 3, 2010, 11:42 PM
Give it a week of carrying, and you won't even notice it anymore.

EnderWiggin
October 3, 2010, 11:44 PM
honestly....the chances of you ever needing it Inside the house are really really small.......

unless you are in a neighborhood where break-ins are a common occurrence...ide be willing to say its a safe bet youd be just fine with out it....

.....i would just leave my gun in the car......
I agree with you. I guess my main thing with leaving it in the car would be the fact that I would have to remove it from my holster and then reholster it when I leave the house. I would say there are days where I go to her house multiples times I would prefer to minimize the amount of times I holster and reholster since that seems to be when most negligent discharges occur.

That is not to say I am negligent but stuff happens and if I can minimize the risk of an ND by minimizing the amount of times I have to reholster my weapon, that would be best.

mustang_steve
October 3, 2010, 11:50 PM
You may wish to get a pocket pistol then, like an LCP or a NAA Guardian. Those can be kept in a pocket or wallet holster, which can easily be taken out as needed.

Oh and keep in mind the language policy here....self-censoring is just as bad as typing the word, just replace said word with stuff.

Caliper_RWVA
October 3, 2010, 11:52 PM
honestly....the chances of you ever needing it Inside the house are really really small.......

For most folks, chances of needing it anywhere are small (after all, I made it 29 years without) but consequences are really large. In public, there are typically more people around. You can make a lot of noise, move away, etc. In a home, screaming is unlikely to bring the neighbors and there isn't much of anywhere to run to.

To the point, I typically carry a PF9 "Mexican style". I chose it for size and caliber and can lay around without a problem. My P95 in a hip holster even works OK when laying on the sofa but may require repositioning depending on how I am positioned.

I suppose this begs another question: Are you trying to keep the weapon concealed from HER when laying around? That could be really hard.

kayak-man
October 3, 2010, 11:53 PM
I would suggest looking into off body carry. You could put the gun in a fanny pack, bag, back pack, briefcase, and just set it next to the couch: it would get rid of the "ooh, a gun" reaction, and you'd have access to it if you need. you're draw might be slower, but if you are laying down on top of your gun, your draw is going to be kind of slow anyways. The bag would also let carry something slightly larger if you feel like it.

Heres an article by Micheal Baine on the subject: http://www.downrange.tv/artman2/publish/droppedshot/How_To_Carry_a_Gun_When_You_re_Naked_printer.shtml

Despite the title, it is high road material.

EnderWiggin
October 4, 2010, 12:01 AM
I suppose this begs another question: Are you trying to keep the weapon concealed from HER when laying around? That could be really hard.

No. She will know and that is fine. I just don't want my firearm to ever be out of my possession where someone else can have access to it, whether intentionally or unintentionally.

Thank you for all your inputs. I really appreciate it. I guess I will have to try the holster out and see how it feels when lying down.

Are there any other scenarios that any of you have encountered where you had to consciously decide what to do with your firearm?

mustang_steve
October 4, 2010, 12:02 AM
Thanks for the link, great read. It's given me a bit to mull over about fanny packs...as obvious as I think they are.

mustang_steve
October 4, 2010, 12:04 AM
Only time I had to worry about the firearm is when going into a situation or place where it is not welcome....and I lock it in the glovebox, leaving the holster on me....then re-holster when I get back to the car. Reason for leaving the holsater on is the holster is so grippy I have to open my pants to put it back in if I was to remove it.

taliv
October 4, 2010, 12:10 AM
just take it off and tuck it under the couch or under the cushion or something.

RedAlert
October 4, 2010, 12:10 AM
Maybe the best thing is to discuss the issue with your "S.O." and then when you enter the house, take it out and place it on a high shelf or bookcase, etc. Out of sight and reach of little ones and not a pain in the side either. Put your car keys with it and you won't drive off and leave it behind.

orionengnr
October 4, 2010, 12:11 AM
I lie down on the couch all the time with my Kahr P45 IWB. I also carry a 1911 a fair bit, and can lie on the couch with it too.
I have tried carrying a double-stack, and was unable to do it comfortably. YMMV.
Pocket carry an LCP...problem solved.

FriedRice
October 4, 2010, 12:16 AM
You will find when you are carrying there may be multiple times you have to think about what you do with your gun. I plan for it at work, when I go out somewhere new, if I'm going to be drinking (have chosen not to so far), if I need to go the post office or a government building, before walking into a shooting range, before hugging someone, while bowling, before a date if it's looking good, etc. I have an off body carry method as well and can also lock it in the car although I haven't had to yet. For me, part of being a responsible firearms owner is making sure my guns don't wind up in someone else's hand unless I have chosen to let them use them in front of me. It's a lot of work. But I'm new at it and I suppose after awhile it will get easier. I couldn't rest easy at home until I installed a giant safe so I know my guns are really not going to walk off whether I'm home or not. Those guns are 100% my responsibility. I'd hate to have one walk off with a BG then be used in a murder. I know it wouldn't be my fault but that doesn't mean I wouldn't suffer over it.

sleepyone
October 4, 2010, 12:16 AM
I tried carrying an XD SC 9mm with 14 rounds IWB and found it to be awkward at times. for example, going to the urinal in a public restroom and having trouble holding up my pants due to the weight of the pistol. Also, being in a stall and not being able to drop my pants all the way w/o exposing my weapon for everyone to see; the gun I mean.

There were other things that made it a hassle for me, so I went to a snub nose .38 +P using either a Desantis squared pocket holster for cargo shorts and either a Mika or Uncle Mike's rounded pocket holster for front pockets.
I really like the Mika.

tank mechanic
October 4, 2010, 12:24 AM
Originally Posted by M-Cameron
honestly....the chances of you ever needing it Inside the house are really really small..

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/14/conn-doctor-takes-witness-stand-murder-trial-wife-daughters/

MaggiesPapaw
October 4, 2010, 12:28 AM
I've recently purchased two Crossbreed Supertuck holsters, for 1911 and PPK. Both live up to the billing of "the most comfortable holster..."
I have lay down on both couch and bed with both (not at the same time) and was amazed how comfortable they are. It's just a matter of positioning properly and finding the right spot.
When I go into my daughter's house, planning to stay a while, and likely to lay on the couch, I'll remove it and place it on top of the fridge (small child in the house). I place my keys and wallet there so I can't forget it.
Removing it there is not an issue, and both daughter and son-in-law have ccl and do carry.
There are also times that I go there knowing there will be quite a few people there, (think watching ball game) and I'll take a backpack and remive it and place it in there; child isn't big enough to open a back pack...yet.... before he is, that will be addressed.
As someone else mentioned, off body carry while you're there.
The Supertuck is a a little awkward to put on for the first few times, but after a week you'll have the hang of it.
Great holster!! They are ugly. They are comfortable. I love them. Going to order more.

lions
October 4, 2010, 12:32 AM
1. It may not be that uncomfortable.
2. Lay on your left side, chest, or back.
3. Set it on an end table within your reach.
4. Leave a discreet bag, box, or case at her place and put it in there.

Good luck.

Carter
October 4, 2010, 12:37 AM
I have a crossbreed supertuck. Its all about location location location.

The first few days I carried I had a crappy holster at 5:30 to 6 oclock position on my body. My back hurt so bad. I wised up and moved it to 3 or 4 oclock depending on the clothing.

Now with my crossbreed it stays at 3 oclock. I can lay down, sit down, even take a nap with it on no problem. Of course comfort depends on the size of the gun as well. I carry an Sr9c, so I don't have a gigantic bump on my hip sticking out to make me sit awkward.

JEB
October 4, 2010, 12:41 AM
i think youll be surprised. when you get your holster, find a good position for you. (mine is 3:30-4 o'clock with full forward cant) wear it as much as you can even if that is just around the house. pretty soon it will become a lot more comfortable than you would think.

i have been using a crossbreed supertuck for a little over a year now with a glock 27 or 22. at first i always knew it was there because it is very different than what you are used to, but before you know it you wont even notice that its there.

once you get used to it being their you should be able to lie down comfortably. you may have to reposition slightly but for the most part its not too bad at all. i would avoid leaving your gun behind/in the car as much as possible. remember, since you never know when you may need it, the only way to have it when you do need it is to allways have it.

MinnMooney
October 4, 2010, 01:01 AM
1st off.......... you MUST be new to CCW because I rarely even remember that I'm wearing mine but I've carried for 6 or so years. I lie down, run, drive and hug with it on.
If you are that uncomfortable with it on while lying down at your girlfriends house (what's this "significant other" crap?) then ask if you can bring a lock box over and lock it in the box until you leave.

Sam1911
October 4, 2010, 08:47 AM
out of my possession where someone else can have access to it,

You have a wise outlook.

Do NOT leave it in your car -- ever if you can possibly avoid it. Of all the things some hood wants to find when he's popping your locks, a handgun is at the top of the list.

Second, DON'T "fool with" the gun. Once it is on, LEAVE it on until your day is done. A holstered gun is a safe gun. Hands on the gun, manipulating it, drawing it, holstering it, loading and unloading, are times of increased risk and must be times of increased concentration. Minimize them to whatever extent you can. You are far safer with the gun holstered on your belt sitting on your girlfriend's couch than you are sitting in your car drawing, emptying, hiding, loading, reholstering, etc. that gun.

Third, ditch the "off-body" carry idea -- unless you've never forgotten anything anywhere, ever. You're either going to look very odd, clutching a "day planner" or "man purse" at every moment like a security blanket -- or you're going to be setting it down VERY often with all the attendant risks of having someone else open it/access it, and just walking away from it and having to race back through your steps praying against hope that it's still where you left it.

I think you've chosen a good holster. Make sure you have a GREAT belt -- very stiff, a real GUN belt, no Walmart stuff -- and wear pants and a belt big enough to fit your gun and holster comfortably. Then wear it often. Soon it will feel strange to NOT have it on your side.

cambeul41
October 4, 2010, 08:55 AM
Monkeyleg, post 2, says it for me:

I lie down all the time with the gun and holster on. Doesn't bother me at all. I can sleep with it on.

Dominus
October 4, 2010, 09:21 AM
If you're worried about unintended hands on it and don't want to wear it laying down, then buy a small pistol vault for under $100.00 and leave it at the SO's place. That way you can remove it, be comfortable and it's safe while still in reach if needed!

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/browse/browse.aspx?c=4&s=126&k=Gun+safe

herkyguy
October 4, 2010, 09:49 AM
+1 for the supertuck. i wish I had found it earlier, i would not have toyed with pocket pistols had i known.

dovedescending
October 4, 2010, 10:17 AM
Listen to Sam1911 :) He knows...

Btw, EnderWiggins, LOVE the screen-name.

EnderWiggin
October 4, 2010, 11:46 AM
Second, DON'T "fool with" the gun. Once it is on, LEAVE it on until your day is done. A holstered gun is a safe gun. Hands on the gun, manipulating it, drawing it, holstering it, loading and unloading, are times of increased risk and must be times of increased concentration. Minimize them to whatever extent you can. You are far safer with the gun holstered on your belt sitting on your girlfriend's couch than you are sitting in your car drawing, emptying, hiding, loading, reholstering, etc. that gun.

I wholeheartedly agree.


Third, ditch the "off-body" carry idea -- unless you've never forgotten anything anywhere, ever. You're either going to look very odd, clutching a "day planner" or "man purse" at every moment like a security blanket -- or you're going to be setting it down VERY often with all the attendant risks of having someone else open it/access it, and just walking away from it and having to race back through your steps praying against hope that it's still where you left it.

Yeah... I was not too fond of this idea. If it's not in my possession at all times, then it is in danger of being in someone else's. Putting your car keys next to it so you don't forget it is a good idea to help you remember to take your firearm but knowing myself I would probably take the keys and then leave the firearm lol


I think you've chosen a good holster. Make sure you have a GREAT belt -- very stiff, a real GUN belt, no Walmart stuff -- and wear pants and a belt big enough to fit your gun and holster comfortably. Then wear it often. Soon it will feel strange to NOT have it on your side.

I was planning on buying a 1.5" leather 5.11 belt (5.11 is the brand). Similar to this one but 1.5": http://www.511tactical.com/browse/Home/All-Products/Accessories/Belts/175-Plain-Leather-Belt/D/30100/P/1:100:50000:50800:50806/I/59418


Btw, EnderWiggins, LOVE the screen-name.

:D Thank you.

I appreciate all the feedback. I can't wait to receive my holster and see if it really lives up to all the "comfort" hype.

Cosmoline
October 4, 2010, 02:14 PM
Don't overlook the shoulder holster option. It's out of fashion right now, but used to be the preferred method.

You're either going to look very odd, clutching a "day planner" or "man purse" at every moment like a security blanket -- or you're going to be setting it down VERY often with all the attendant risks of having someone else open it/access it, and just walking away from it and having to race back through your steps praying against hope that it's still where you left it.

It depends on lifestyle. I carry with the maxpedition all the time, and haven't had problems with it. It's either on me or stowed with the revolver locked up. But certainly, if you choose this method it has to be GLUED to you or locked up. There is no third option. I keep my wallet in there too as extra insurance that I'll never forget the thing.

orbitup
October 4, 2010, 02:52 PM
I just got my supertuck 2 days ago and it's great. I did some laying around with the wife on the couch and it was a little awkward, but not so bad that I won't get used to it. The only problem I have encountered so far is how tight I have to wear my belt. For now I am just loosing it a little when I am home.

I also got the belt from Crossbreed.

doc2rn
October 4, 2010, 02:57 PM
For me a different mode of carry works. I usually just put my CCW in a paddle holster and slip it on and off as needed. I can wear an LCP with scrubs all day and have no problems also so platform may have something to do with it.

Rob P.
October 4, 2010, 04:09 PM
I don't post here much but this is the way I see it in this case...

1. If you're THAT worried about an accidental discharge, then buy a different gun. Yes I know that Glocks are "perfect" and are currently in vogue. Still, they have an ABSOLUTELY CRAPPY safety system. So, if you don't want accidental handlings to accidentally discharge the weapon buy something with a manual safety.

2. I lie on my weapon often. Yes it's uncomfortable at times. But, it's NEVER supposed to be "comfortable" only comforting. The fact that lying on it reminds me that I have that chunk of steel on my hip is comforting and I just shift until it's OK.

3. Your gal should be taught the Eddie Eagle stuff. Yes it's for kids but it works for adults. NO TOUCHIE! is a great rule. BTW, I have a place where I put my weapon when sleeping or doing other things in all the places where I visit frequently. That is MY SPACE!!! and NOTHING is allowed to be there except what I put there. It's only 1 sq ft but it's MINE! and that's where I put my weapon when it's not on my person. It's "safe" from anyone else's fingers because everyone knows that what is there is not for them to look at, fondle, drool on, etc. even if it's not behind a lock. If your gal can't abide this, or by your carrying, or by seeing your guns sometimes, then find another gal.

4. Kids in the house require that the weapon be ON YOUR PERSON or locked up. If you and your gal get serious one day, there may be kids in your future. If so, you do not want to get into the "put it on a table" habit. Start the good habits now so you won't ever forget tomorrow.

5. CCW is not that different from a non-CCW lifestyle. There are things you do and things you don't do. Like brushing your teeth a certain way, shower shaving or not, and the like. Stuff like this is just more of those things you do and don't do.

skipbadger
October 4, 2010, 05:03 PM
We all ask these same questions when we start to carry. How often to carry? Where/when to carry? What weapon? What holster?

I have several rules that are never broken when it comes to firearms, and one of them is that a loaded weapon is ALWAYS either locked up or on my person/in my control. I can't leave it laying around somewhere either in my house or someone elses house.

I also am a stickler about keeping my weapons holstered once I take them out of their locked home. A holstered gun eliminates the the chance of an N.D.

These limitations led me to a small enough weapon to conceal every day (j Frame) and two different types of holsters that I use depending on what is going on that day. when I know I won't have to disarm, I put my j frame in a blackhawk speed OWB holster. when I know I will be having to possibly arm/disarm throughout the day, I put the revolver in a mika pocket holster.

I use the mika pocket holster most often now, as I can put it in a center console when I drive (I consider that under my control). When I am out of the car, I lock the doors (I consider that out of my control, but KINDA locked). I don't have to handle the weapon out of the holster each time I disarm.

For your concerns of being at someone elses home and not wanting to disarm, I think your problem is that the Glock 26 along with the Supertuck is simply the wrong system for you in that situation. It is a great gun in and of itself, but it doesn't seem to meet your needs. Also, the crossbreed is a fantastic IWB holster, but not for someone that may desire to take it on and off more than once a day.

I would get something like an LCP in a nice pocket holster for visiting the lady. Also, if I was sleeping over, I would either lock the weapon in the car at night, or preferably bring something inside to lock it up. Because by definition, if I am sleeping with a firearm, I am not in control of it and it isn't locked up.

There will also come a time after enough laying in bed to watch TV that you will definitely need to lose the firearm. Ah, new love...

Mudinyeri
October 4, 2010, 05:18 PM
Well, when I go to my S.O.' house ... I'm at my own house. She hasn't asked for her own house yet. :D

Anyway ... once your holster "wears in" it should be about as comfortable as having a thick wallet in your hip pocket. If you normally carry a thick wallet in your hip pocket, try switching to a front pocket wallet for a few months and then go back to carrying a thick wallet in your hip pocket. You'll notice just how uncomfortable it is. However, if you've carried a wallet in your hip pocket all your life you don't even notice that it's there. Same concept with a gun/holster.

Second, I'm not sure of the environment in your S.O.'s house, but if it's as manic as it sounds (you're not sure if someone will come by, grab your gun and start fiddling with it while you're lying around watching TV) I wouldn't allow that gun to be off your body for one second.

Best of luck to you in getting comfortable with carrying. It's definitely not for everyone ... just like carrying a thick wallet in your hip pocket. :D

JohnBiltz
October 4, 2010, 07:36 PM
Until you start carrying it you don't know if it is a problem or not. If it is maybe you need a second place to move it to, a G26 will fit in a cargo pocket or an ankle if you are not walking much. If you put it in a cargo pocket use a holster. Cardboard and duct tape will work as a temporary fix.

smince
October 4, 2010, 08:52 PM
an IWB at it's appropriate position (3-4pm positions) Who decides 3:00-4:00 is an appropriate position?

rodensouth
October 4, 2010, 09:26 PM
I have a 1911 that feels best 5:00, and HK at 3:30 in Supertucks. Just got to try positions
in wasteband and cant/height.

I can cuddle with wife as long as I get back and lay left. Never notice gun.

CTGunner
October 4, 2010, 10:05 PM
just take it off and tuck it under the couch or under the cushion or something.

I would NEVER do this. You forget that gun and the next day your significant others 6 year old nephew stops over, finds the gun...and you have a tragedy on your hands. Keep the gun in your possession at all times or get a security box, bolt it inside your trunk, and store it there.

Alternatively, you could get a small security safe to leave at her house and lock it up while you are there.

Erik M
October 4, 2010, 10:31 PM
You will forget its there after so long, until you go somewhere without it in which case you will feel like you forgot to wear shoes or pants. I own several different holster makes so i can carry in different positions in different outfits.

Coolbreeze8804
October 4, 2010, 11:43 PM
I adore my supertucks. I carry a PM9 w/ CT and a Kimber Ultra carry w/ CT as a professional issue, which depending on duty and location, and I am never without. I put in in the britches when I pull 'em up in the morning, and it goes into the pillow holster when I retire. Between, it is there in the holster. period. Find the right location with that supertuck, and just wear it. The only thing that could possibly be an issue is when you are doing your inverted sit-ups to pop up those incredible abs and the weapon... nah never mind... Seriously. It's a holster you can live with.

Really. Just wear it. Off body is an unacceptable risk. In the home is where you will need is the most if needed, and once you are inthe groove, it just becomes a part of the daily wear. Like deoderant or underwear. (for most of us) You just wear it. It's the right thing to do...

Glockurai
October 5, 2010, 12:39 AM
I wouldn't leave it in the car. It might get stolen. I'd suggest to keep it on you. I also carry in a CB and do not feel it is uncomfortable to the point I need to take it off. Break in the holster and maybe it won't be an issue.:)

pockets
October 5, 2010, 12:07 PM
I've never considered tool ownership and usage to be a 'lifestyle'.
I don't have a 'car lifestyle' simply because I own and use a car daily, or a 'computer lifestyle' simply because I use them to earn a living, etc.
I own several dozen handguns and long guns, and have for most of my 57 years. But there are many diverse factors which go into making up my 'lifestyle'.

As for the original post? Seems like a lot of over-thinking to me.
You might mellow out a bit once you start carrying and get through the initial "oh my...I've got a gun!" phase.

Glockurai
October 5, 2010, 02:19 PM
Yes I know that Glocks are "perfect" and are currently in vogue. Still, they have an ABSOLUTELY CRAPPY safety system. do and don't do.


So I suppose all those agencies and civilians who own Glocks made a bad decision then...:rolleyes:

Sam1911
October 5, 2010, 03:00 PM
And that's enough from the "Glocks suck" and "Glocks are the gr8est!" choirs.

Cosmoline
October 5, 2010, 05:35 PM
As for the original post? Seems like a lot of over-thinking to me.
You might mellow out a bit once you start carrying and get through the initial "oh my...I've got a gun!" phase.

I don't think it's overthinking. These are important issues. If the firearm is uncomfortable, there's a strong tendency to leave it at home. Which defeats the purpose of having a concealed firearm available. Everybody is built different and dresses different. If you find yourself with a pain in the back from a particular method of carry, change the method. There are many options.

EnderWiggin
October 6, 2010, 07:19 PM
Well I just received my Supertuck Horsehide with Combat Cut and wow... you guys were right. I can lay down no problem. Hell I can even lie on the side where the holster is and still be okay.

At first it was difficult finding a location for the holster where the gun didn't print but I think I have finally found it. I would say for me that position is 4 o'clock or far enough behind me that the slide corner of my gun does not show from a frontal view of my body.

Thank you all for your input. I am glad that I can lay down and still pack some heat :D

Coolbreeze8804
October 6, 2010, 10:25 PM
oh dear lord! THAT sounds like something an old geezer like me would say!

ohyea... I told you so....! those crossBreed folks have it happening. I never would have thought that something so butt-ugly could work so beautifully.

Sevenfaces
October 7, 2010, 03:36 AM
Hello.

While I am also relatively new to the whole CCW thing, If I were in your position I would simply remove my holster/gun when I was in her place (or her room if she shares the home with her family as you said) and place it, along with my keys in a secure and remote, yet easy to remember place. (for example I like the top of the fridge since I'm the only one tall enough to reach it.) the reason to keep the keys with it is in case you do forget, you can't drive away!

I can understand how some people would disagree with removing their gear, I just don't think I would need to have immediate access to it while I was getting ready to snuggle up and watch a movie, or whatever.

Coolbreeze8804
October 8, 2010, 08:58 PM
That is, until the front door caves in and you find yourself confronted with three unfriendlies, who are already high and desparate, which is why they choose your door at random, to provide them with the supplies that they need and to commit whatever mayhem that they may be intent on committing. This is why we carry. So we are ready when it comes knocking...

The incident you fear most will NOT occur while you are standing with your back to the wall and a shotgun in your hand with good cover on three sides. You will fall to the level of your training at that instant. And what you do in the next very few, very short seconds will define the rest of your life, be it very short, or long and fruitful. Personally, I don't want to mourn the loss of my loved ones because I didn't have time to make to the nice safe place I left my only means of defense against overwhelming odds.

Look at the news and let history be your guide... I was very happy to be prepared, and I will NEVER be left unarmed in the future. It was all that was between me and very certain tragedy.

Iam2taz
October 9, 2010, 12:52 AM
I agree with most of what has been posted. I have mine on at home all of the time, setting in my recliner now. (In the same holster your getting!) If, however, I needed to take it off for comfort reasons. (Lets say, at my in-laws.) I would place it high out of the way with my car keys and my pocket knife. (Someone else mentioned this earlier!) I don't go anywhere with out those two items.

Really, once you get that holster a little sweaty and broken in, you won't notice it. It will become a part of you.

leadcounsel
October 9, 2010, 09:20 AM
1) medium size or smaller handgun
2) quality IWB holster

You won't even notice it. I've laid on the couch and slept with mine on frequently.

The caveat is that if you tend to figit or do weird stuff in your sleep...

However, if I'm settling in for a long movie or whatnot, I occassionally remove it and set it on the coffee table directly in front of me.

mustang_steve
October 9, 2010, 09:40 AM
One suggestion if you sleep with a gun is to put the gun in a holster with very good retention, so it requires two hands to draw it. This, while far from optimal, does prevent "sleep handling" of a weapon in a ready to fire state (it's not ready, trigger is covered).

I use a uncle mike's IWB holster that I cut the pocket clip off of for this (about all it's good far). It gives me usual IWB holster a good break for the evening.

uspJ
October 9, 2010, 10:31 AM
I wear mine almost all the time. If it gets a bit uncomfortable while lying around I slide it back a bit, or I just lay on my opposite side. Once you start wearing alot you find little tricks that work for you that may not work for others and vice versa.

Caliper_RWVA
October 9, 2010, 01:20 PM
I can understand how some people would disagree with removing their gear, I just don't think I would need to have immediate access to it while I was getting ready to snuggle up and watch a movie, or whatever.

Trouble is, you don't get to pick when you may need protection. The bad guys do. If someone is breaking into your house, do you think they will see you watching a movie and think "...oh, I'm interrupting things here... I'll have to come back later..."

Lou McGopher
October 10, 2010, 02:29 AM
an IWB at it's appropriate position (3-4pm positions)Who decides 3:00-4:00 is an appropriate position? Forget that. What's the difference between a 3-4pm position and a 3-4am position? :D

The Sarge
October 10, 2010, 07:16 AM
Maybe the best thing is to discuss the issue with your "S.O." and then when you enter the house, take it out and place it on a high shelf or bookcase, etc. Out of sight and reach of little ones and not a pain in the side either. Put your car keys with it and you won't drive off and leave it behind.
Best answer yet^^^^

Coolbreeze8804
October 10, 2010, 03:57 PM
Who decides 3:00-4:00 is an appropriate position?

Forget that. What's the difference between a 3-4pm position and a 3-4am position?

THIS is what I need an answer to.

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