Arsenal, Inc Supports Harry Reid


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230therapy
October 6, 2010, 01:45 PM
Arsenal, Inc has decided to support Harry Reid. As a result of their support of an enemy of liberty, I have decided to take my business to firearms manufacturers who do not support and/or treat with the enemy.

Contact Arsenal and express your ire.

Link on Reid's website:

http://www.harryreid.com/index.php/news/release/nevada_business_leaders_sign_letter_supporting_reid_denouncing_angle_o/

PDF:
http://www.mynews4.com/files/Open%20Business%20Letter.pdf

Arsenal's contact link:

http://www.arsenalinc.com/contact.php


Dear Sir or Ma'am:

I have recently learned that you are supporting Harry Reid. Unfortunately for you, that means I will NOT purchase two Arsenal rifles this fall. I will take my business to another company.

Your support of this anti-rights politician is going to cost your business profits. Remember the agreement that Smith & Wesson signed with the Clinton administration? The fallout almost destroyed the company. You should keep this in mind.

They need to understand the economic consequence of this action. If Harry Reid gets elected again--you know the deal.

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Kbovine
October 6, 2010, 02:23 PM
Excellent letter, 230. All I can say is go Sharron Angle! I have lots of family in NV and it's frustrating to conservatives there that Las Vegas carries the state at the polls...

hso
October 6, 2010, 02:26 PM
Remember to not let this wander outside of the RKBA issue and into broader political territory.

VegasAR15
October 6, 2010, 03:43 PM
I wrote to Arsenal Inc and posted the information on a Nevada forum also. Looks like Desert Hills Shooting Club is also on that list. Their listed email address is jim@deserthillsshootingclub.com

Guillermo
October 6, 2010, 04:15 PM
I was short on time so I sent this quick note

For quite a while I have been entertaining the idea of ordering a .410 Saiga from my local dealer, The Hardware Store, I have changed my mind.

According to Harry Reid's website, Vartan Barsoumian or Arsenal Inc a supporter.

I do not do business with the enemies of liberty.

Add one to the column of people that will never do business with your company.

Prion
October 6, 2010, 04:38 PM
http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/NewsReleases.aspx?ID=14170

Link to article on why the NRA is not endorsing Reid.

VegasAR15
October 11, 2010, 11:54 AM
Reid is a staunch friend of gunowners. He voted against the AWB in 1994

I wouldn't go that far. If I recall correctly, he voted against the ammendment that added the AWB in the Clinton Crime Bill, but then voted for the Clinton Crime Bill(AWB).

Here is a list of votes he has cast over the past twenty years in the U.S. Senate:

1. December 24, 2009—Reid used his position as Majority Leader to pass the ObamaCare legislation. This bill will allow the BATFE and FBI to troll through the ObamaCare database for gun owners who would be disqualified because of their medical information.

2. September 9, 2009—Voted to confirm Cass Sunstein as Administrator of Regulatory Affairs (Regulatory Czar). GOA notified all Senators that Cass Sunstein is a radical leftist who would like to ban hunting and give animals some of the same rights as humans in the courtroom.

3. August 6, 2009—Voted to confirm Sonya Sotomayor as Supreme Court Justice. GOA warned all Senators that Judge Sotomayor's record on gun rights was one of hostility to the Second Amendment, which was born out in her dissent in the McDonald decision.

4. June 25, 2009—Voted to confirm Harold Koh as Legal Advisor to the Department of State. GOA warned all Senators that Koh is a radical globalist pushing for worldwide gun control regulation, including the UN Treaty on Small Arms.

5. March 19, 2009—Voted to massively expand the amount of land covered by the National Parks gun ban. As Majority Leader, Reid frustrated the efforts of pro-gun Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) for more than a year to repeal the gun ban. Sen. Coburn's position ultimately prevailed after overcoming Reid's opposition later in the 2009.

6. February 2, 2009—Voted to confirm Eric Holder as Attorney General. Holder was an anti-Second Amendment official for the Clinton administration, and has called for a renewal of the Clinton gun ban.

7. January 31, 2006—Voted against Samuel Alito for Supreme Court Justice. Justice Alito's record and testimony to the Senate show that he is strong advocate for Second Amendment rights. Had Reid's position prevailed on this vote, the 5-4 decisions in Heller and McDonald could have gone the other way.

8. January 18, 2007—Voted against an amendment to strike language in a bill that would infringe upon the free speech rights of groups like GOA by requiring them to monitor and report on communications with members, and could easily have led to government demands for organizational membership list (a.k.a. registration).

9. September 29, 2005—Voted against John Roberts for Supreme Court Justice. Roberts' record and testimony to the Senate show that he is strong advocate for Second Amendment rights. Had Reid's position prevailed on this vote, the 5-4 decisions in Heller and McDonald could have gone the other way.

10. July 28, 2005—Voted for an amendment to require all handgun purchasers to pay an implicit "gun tax" by requiring them to buy a trigger lock when they purchase their handgun, irrespective of need.

11. March 2, 2004—Voted to outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows unless the buyer agrees to submit to an FBI background registration check. This legislative would have effectively eliminated gun shows because of stringent requirements placed on event sponsors.

12. February 26, 2004—Voted for an amendment to require all handgun purchasers to pay an implicit "gun tax" by requiring them to buy a trigger lock when they purchase their handgun, irrespective of need. In addition, the amendment would create a broad cause of action against gun owners who fail to actually use the storage device to lock up their firearms.

13. March 20, 2002—Voted to end a filibuster of the odious Incumbent Protection bill. The blatantly unconstitutional legislation squelches the voice of groups like Gun Owners of America in the final days before an election. By making it difficult, if not impossible, for groups to criticize the anti-gun actions of legislators prior to an election, incumbents are able to duck accountability for those actions.

14. April 2, 2001—Voted for the Incumbent Protection Act, so-called campaign finance reform.

15. May 17, 2000—Voted for a resolution praising the participants of the so-called Million Mom March, and calling on Congress to pass the anti-gun juvenile crime bill that GOA was fighting.

16. May 17, 2000—Voted with 29 other F-rated Senators against an amendment stating "the right of each law-abiding United States citizen to own a firearm for any legitimate purpose, including self-defense or recreation, should not be infringed."

17. April 10, 2000—Voted for a non-binding amendment offered by Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) urging the House-Senate conferees to get the juvenile anti-gun bill to the floor of each chamber by April 20.

18. March 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) urging the passage of the ant-gun juvenile crime bill being opposed by GOA.

19. April 6, 2000—Voted and cosponsored a "sense of the Senate" amendment urging the passage of new gun control restrictions.

20. March 2, 2000—Voted to use Federal taxpayer funds to hand out anti-gun literature in schools and to run anti-gun public service announcements.

21. March 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Charlie Schumer (D-NY) blaming school violence on the fact that Congress "failed to pass reasonable, common-sense gun control measures" and call for new gun ownership restrictions on the anniversary of the Columbine shootings.

22. February 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to help the cities bringing frivolous suits against gun makers. Specifically, the amendment prevents gun makers from declaring legitimate bankruptcy, and thus, discharging any enormous judgments that result from frivolous lawsuits.

23. July 28, 1999—Voted to end a filibuster on the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill. The filibuster was led by Sen. Bib Smith (R-NH) because of concerns with the gun control provisions in the bill.

24. May 20, 1999—Voted for the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a a host of gun control provisions.

25. May 20, 1999—Voted for an amendment offered by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) that would ban private sales at gun shows, unless the buyer first submits to a background registration check. Even displaying a firearm at a gun show, and subsequently transferring that gun to a non-licensee, would result in a two-year prison sentence. The amendment would also have granted BATF open-ended inspection authority to harass vendors at gun shows, and explicitly gives BATF the right to keep a gun owner registration list for up to 90 days. This amendment passed 51-50, with Vice President Al Gore breaking the tie.

26. May 20, 1999—Voted for legislation to subject repair shop and pawn shop transactions to the same registration and background check requirements as purchases from dealers—even if a person was reclaiming his own firearm.

27. May 18, 1999—Voted for an amendment to force gun sellers to include trigger locks with every handgun sold.

28. May 14, 1999—Voted for an amendment introduced by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) that would regulate the transfer of firearms over the Internet.

29. May 13, 1999—Voted to ban the importation of ammunition clips that can hold more than 10 rounds.

30. May 12, 1999—Voted to ban the private sales of firearms at gun shows unless buyers submitted to background registration checks. Draconian restrictions would have also been imposed on gun show promoters, expanding federal authority in this area.

31. July 28, 1998—Voted against killing an amendment offered by Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) to prohibit the importation of firearm magazines holding over 10 rounds that were manufactured before the 1994 ban was enacted.

32. September 12, 1996—Voted to make it a Federal crime to possess a gun within 1,000 feet of any school, private or public, and impose a 5-year prison sentence for violating the law.

33. September 12, 1996—Voted to spend $21.5 million for a study on putting "taggants" in black and smokeless gunpowder.

34. June 27, 1996—Voted to destroy 176,000 M-1 Garand rifles from World War II, and 150 million rounds of 30 caliber ammunition, rather than giving them to the Federal Civilian Marksmanship program.

35. April 17, 1996—Voted to expand the statute of limitations for paperwork violations in National Firearms Act from 3 years to 5 years.

36. August 25, 1994—Voted for the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on many semi-automatic firearms (the so-called "assault weapons" ban).

37. August 25, 1994—Voted to end a filibuster led by pro-gun Senators against the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on many semi-automatic firearms (so-called "assault weapons").

38. November 20, 1993—Voted for the Brady Bill, which imposed a 5-day waiting period before purchasing a handgun.

39. November 19, 1993—Voted to end a filibuster led by pro-gun Senators against the Brady Bill.

40. November 19, 1993—Voted to eliminate the five year sunset in the Brady Bill's five day waiting period, which would have made the waiting period permanent.

41. June 28, 1991—Voted for a 5 day waiting period for handgun purchases.

Sam1911
October 11, 2010, 12:12 PM
Remember the purpose of the Activism forum. Identify and implement a plan of action for dealing with a specific concern.


From the sticky at the top of the forum -- you may notice a recurring theme...

It is the place to share with others the actions you have taken on behalf of RKBA or to propose actions on behalf of RKBA.

actions taken or proposed on behalf of RKBA means that your post must describe an action taken or propose a plan of action on behalf of RKBA or it will be deleted.

Activism is not a politics forum.

...

Activism is about what you've done or what you propose we all do to affect change on behalf of RKBA so that others can follow your lead. It is not for FYI posts or negative comments.

...

This is not the place to debate ideas. This the place to outline action to be taken.

...

This is where we present actions we actually have carried out or action we want to carry out to make change happen.

There will be absolutely no arguments or comments about whether a given course of action is a good one. Such arguments always occur, about every single idea, and then no course of action is taken. This is the place to co-ordinate, not to talk somebody else out of doing anything.


If you want to debate Reid (again, once more, for good measure) take it to Activism Discussion and THERE, keep it RKBA focused.

Guillermo
October 11, 2010, 12:15 PM
keep it RKBA focused

since Harry is so anti gun, as evidenced by the outstanding post that was deleted, please write Arsenal Inc

Husker_Fan
October 11, 2010, 04:06 PM
I know this is supposed to stay away from straight politics, but what had Reid done, other than vote to confirm certain Judges/Justices that is so RKBA?

Sam1911
October 11, 2010, 04:12 PM
I know this is supposed to stay away from straight politics
Yes. It is supposed to be about WHAT we're DOING. Not why or why not.

However, since it seems impossible to avoid the question (though it has been beaten to death in many other threads...) I've undeleted a post to answer this question:

... what had Reid done, other than vote to confirm certain Judges/Justices that is so RKBA?

Go read post 7.

Any further discussion of the hows and whys needs to be held in a thread in Activism Discussion or elsewhere. Please follow the forum rules.

KodiakBeer
October 11, 2010, 04:21 PM
I know this is supposed to stay away from straight politics, but what had Reid done, other than vote to confirm certain Judges/Justices that is so RKBA?

Supreme Court Justices make PERMANENT changes to our constitutional liberties. Voting for a Kagan or Sotomayor is ten thousand times more damaging to the RKBA than passing laws like the AWB, which are temporary, can be discarded with a simple congressional vote and/or can be overturned in the courts.

Once the Supreme Court rules on a 2nd Amendment issue, it's a permanent sea-change in our liberties, for better or worse.

Politicians need to be held accountable for ALL their votes. The SC nominations are the most important RKBA votes they will cast in their entire careers.

Girodin
October 11, 2010, 04:25 PM
Yes. It is supposed to be about WHAT we're DOING. Not why or why not.

The ability to suggest taking some action without being able to say why that action should be taken is just silly. The biggest part of advocating action is making people understand why that action is important. You should do A but I cannot tell you why I think you should just do it okay. That is less than convincing.

One more reason not to buy an arsenal aside from them being overpriced and too frequent examples of poor QC for the price.

Sam1911
October 11, 2010, 04:36 PM
The ability to suggest taking some action without being able to say why that action should be taken is just silly. The biggest part of advocating action is making people understand why that action is important. You should do A but I cannot tell you why I think you should just do it okay. That is less than convincing.


Understood. Perhaps this discussion was not ready to be broached in "Activism" but should have been posted in "Activism Discussion."

However, the OP did follow the forum rules and kept his comments restricted to his issue and what he was doing about it.

The sticky that defines the purpose of this sub-forum specifically states:

There's no place on THR for discussing how much you hate or love any given politician. Endless complaining about politicians and politics sap the power of the internet for change. Those threads will be removed as a violation of the terms of this forum.

Activism is about what you've done or what you propose we all do to affect change on behalf of RKBA so that others can follow your lead. It is not for FYI posts or negative comments.

...

This is not the place to debate ideas. This the place to outline action to be taken.

...


There will be absolutely no arguments or comments about whether a given course of action is a good one. Such arguments always occur, about every single idea, and then no course of action is taken. This is the place to co-ordinate, not to talk somebody else out of doing anything.


It is what it is. We ask that all use it in the way intended.

Guillermo
October 11, 2010, 06:53 PM
The ability to suggest taking some action without being able to say why that action should be taken is just silly

of course you are right. I pointed it out. They used my post to start this thread http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=544484

if you don't want your post deleted, better move it over there.

also, I warn you to be careful as if you continue this conversation. ...

alsaqr
October 11, 2010, 07:11 PM
also, I warn you to be careful as if you continue this conversation. At least one moderator is not a slave to the truth and he will punish you faster than a dominatrix at a whip makers's convention

Ain't that the truth. Yep, my post was deleted: But not before it was quoted and rebutted in a political rant that remains on the board. Go figure.

Sam1911
October 11, 2010, 07:17 PM
Well, that's about enough of that.

READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS. No one needs to be bitter or confused.

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