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RonDeer10mm
October 6, 2010, 05:28 PM
When I went on my first hunt I shot a 160 pound hog my guide said shoot him in the head I had a .270 win and it was under 60 yards so I made the shot and nailed him he went down and the hogs around him near the feeder scurried away In fear so we were ready to get out of the Ground level box blind and I tell him it started moving so we get out quietly and slowly approach the pig sprints and he shoots it and misses then racks the bolt fast and hits it just in time before it runs into the bushes and piles of leaves he shot it around the head and neck area with his A bolt mountain TI in .270 WSM(nice rifle BTW) so I was shocked how this pig took all that punishment anyone else have any hog hunting stories? Why are these hogs so damn hard to kill?:what:

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heeler
October 6, 2010, 05:35 PM
Well the hogs anatomy is different in a lot of respects as other game animals.
I have on different occaisions made head shots on truely big boars that with one laid there for a good ten minutes after being shot with my 6mm before leaping up and another one jumped up feet before I walked up on him after being nailed with my .308.
I try aiming right below and slightly behind their ear now days and they usually end up dead quite quickly then.

hardluk1
October 6, 2010, 06:14 PM
If hunting with much of the average deer bullets better shot for the heart lung or start useing a bonded or barnes X still bullet and most load it in there line. Those bullets will do the job for a head shot or shoot at the shoulders and brake them.And some older folks like to still make head chesse. Just not me. I always had real good luck with 357 mag shooting 180gr hard cast. flat break the shoulders down or blow through the oll head on them. With most hard or real tough bullets kill'n those hogs is way easier.

Cypress
October 6, 2010, 07:18 PM
A .270 has plenty of punch for hogs and will completely empty their cranium. You simply didn't hit the right place. Probably to far forward and just knocked him out. I try for the shoulder shot usually and they stop pretty quick.

desidog
October 6, 2010, 10:12 PM
With a story like that i'd love to see a picture of the hog once it was stopped. Shot placement and all.

Flintknapper
October 6, 2010, 10:23 PM
^^^^^^^^^

Agree with Cypress.

IMO, the guides advice (to head shoot) was ill-advised for the following reasons:

A. Hogs are rarely still for very long (often they move just about the time you shoot).

B. A "head shot" is really an attempt at a CNS (central nervous system) shot (the brain or spinal column of the neck) and the brain is a very small target on a hog.

C. If a hog is feeding...the ONE thing that will be moving is it's head (even if only a small amount).

D. Most folks (under hunting conditions) are not capable of the same accuracy they can muster at the shooting range, so the chance of error increases.


If circumstance permits, always shoot a hog in the neck (anywhere from just behind the jaw to just in front of the shoulder). My next pick...would be a shoulder shot.

Study up on hog anatomy. The vitals of a hog lie very much forward of those of deer, so the tradtional behind the shoulder shot used on deer will often result in a lost animal when applied to hogs.

Also, the vertebra of the neck make a sharp angle downward from the skull, some folks shoot over the top of the spine when neck shooting. The hog goes down (knocked out).... only to get back up shortly thereafter.

Same thing applies for the "head shot". You don't have to directly hit the brain (or spine) to kill one...but there is a "whole lotta" head on a hog that isn't lethal I.E. snout, jaws, nasal cavity.

I am not saying no one should EVER take a head shot (I have done it many times), I'm saying....it's a small...usually moving target, and you need to be confident in your shooting skills before attempting it.

Glad you got your hog, congratulations!

Flint.

chas08
October 7, 2010, 12:17 AM
I am not saying no one should EVER take a head shot (I have done it many times), I'm saying....it's a small...usually moving target, and you need to be confident in your shooting skills before attempting it. "AMEN" and unless you don't consider them vermin where you live, "Any dead hog, is a good hog" , even if it only feeds the Buzzards"

nathan
October 7, 2010, 12:45 AM
Aim for the brain , below the ear or a little back of will certainly bust it good. The hog wont go up after that.

M 39 with Seller and Belliot 180 gr SP .

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc127/Dongha_97/HPIM1939.jpg

jbkebert
October 7, 2010, 12:51 AM
A. Hogs are rarely still for very long (often they move just about the time you shoot).

Very very true. This hog was standing broadside when arrow was released. 23 yards at 298fps so a mere fraction of a second. The broadside shot turned into a quartering towards with the arrow completly passing through and exiting as shown.http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww241/jbkebert/sweetwatercreek019.jpg?t=1286423421

FLAvalanche
October 7, 2010, 10:37 AM
Why are these hogs so damn hard to kill?

They aren't hard to kill. What's hard is that most people don't know where the vitals are on a pig. You just missed the vitals that's all.

If you learn where the vitals are on a pig and take a good look at the insides and muscle and bone structure of a pig you won't have any problem killing them.

Know thine enemy.

RonDeer10mm
October 7, 2010, 01:45 PM
This was in January of 09 not this year

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