sig p220 vs. kimber 1911


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jjwdb7
October 12, 2010, 01:04 AM
if you could get either one for relatively the same price, which would you get? a sig p220 (full sized, not compact) or a kimber 1911 (again full sized). not interested in carrying something that big, just like both as collector pieces and for shooting.

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hiram2005
October 12, 2010, 01:07 AM
I have had both of those, and if I were to do it again, the 220 is what I would get.

ugaarguy
October 12, 2010, 02:19 AM
Maybe go to a range that rents and shoot each one? You're comparing a DA/SA auto to a SA auto. It's a bit like asking if you should buy a Corvette or an F250 triton. I mean both of those are RWD vehicles with 8 cylinder gasoline engines right?

rikman
October 12, 2010, 02:29 AM
Maybe go to a range that rents and shoot each one? You're comparing a DA/SA auto to a SA auto. It's a bit like asking if you should buy a Corvette or an F250 triton. I mean both of those are RWD vehicles with 8 cylinder gasoline engines right?
Ugaarguy,

Good advice. I have both a Sig & Kimber. Like thhem both and 2 different guns.

Rikman

9mmepiphany
October 12, 2010, 02:47 AM
I've had both. Sold the Kimber, carried the Sig 220 as a duty gun, used the money from the Kimber to buy a S&W 1911Sc.

I've found that the 220 is just as accurate as the Kimber out of the box and will run longer with less attention. While I am very attached to the alloy framed 220, if I wasn't planning on carrying it, I'd look very hard at the 220ST with the stainless steel frame;

Here's a picture of the two:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/9mmepiphany/DSC_1267.jpg

ugaarguy
October 12, 2010, 03:21 AM
I've found that the 220 is just as accurate as the Kimber out of the box and will run longer with less attention.
Was your Kimber a Series II gun, or one of earlier vintage? The Kimbers I currently have are all older models. I think there are better 1911 options out there than current production Kimbers, but the older models can be very good values on the used market in my experience.

docnyt
October 12, 2010, 03:26 AM
Have both, like both, no problems so far with either. Can't help you decide. Ergonomics wise, the 220 may be bulkier in the grip category.

9mmepiphany
October 12, 2010, 04:19 AM
Ergonomics wise, the 220 may be bulkier in the grip category.
Hence the Hogue aluminum grips on the ST in my picture

Was your Kimber a Series II gun, or one of earlier vintage?

It was a series II, my experience and those of shoot buddies has been that the Warrior series may be the most reliable of the recent Kimbers. The Sig 220 platform is just able to take more neglect than the 1911 platform in general under hard use.

evan price
October 12, 2010, 06:37 AM
This is apples VS bananas. You should buy the one that shoots best for you.

That said, I own a Sig 220 and a 1911 style pistol and prefer the sig 220. But it fits me better.

MikePaiN
October 12, 2010, 07:08 AM
I love 1911's but just sold one to fund recouping my Sig P220.
If I carry a .45auto it would be the P220.

silversport
October 12, 2010, 09:13 AM
yes what was said above...if you like 1911s, you'll most likely love your Kimber...if you like DA/SA (or whatever configuration you buy in the P220) you'll most likely like your SiG...both fine weapons...the SiG P220 is manytimes said to be the finest DA/SA .45ACP made...
Bill

Prion
October 12, 2010, 10:34 AM
P220's are great guns, can't go wrong there.

fildugn
October 12, 2010, 11:07 AM
I've had 2 SIGS and 12 Kimbers. Generally, I sell the SIGs and Keep the Kimbers. Even though the SIGs have been reliable and reasonably accurate. There's just something about a nice 1911.

BlayGlock
October 12, 2010, 11:17 AM
Im a 1911 guy, however, if you have never owned one get the Sig. A wise man once told me that there are two general criteria for determining whether you should own a 1911:

That is a tough question as I feel most people are best served NOT using a 1911 as a primary sidearm. Two criteria come to mind a) A passion for the 1911 platform and b) you are willing to be your own armorer and can fix relatively minor problems or fit certain parts yourself. If you are the kind of guy that doesn’t mind tinkering with your Harley Davidson motorcycle to keep it running then you are a candidate. If however you treat your pistols like we all treat our lawnmowers then don’t get a 1911 – use a Glock.

http://vickerstactical.com/faqs-with-larry-vickers/

Ala Dan
October 12, 2010, 02:51 PM
In the wake of my love for the 1911's; I have to vote for the West German
.45 caliber SIG-SAUER P220A. IMHO, simply the BEST .45 auto made; in its
DA/SA configuration~! ;) :D

Zerodefect
October 12, 2010, 03:05 PM
Kimber, as long as it's one of the simpler <$1000 models.

Custom, TLE, CDP, etc.

Olympus
October 12, 2010, 03:21 PM
I'd personally have to go with the Kimber. Small hands make the difference between the two for me. Both are good guns. Like others have said, shoot them both and pick the one that feels the best to you. What works for you may not be what works for me, works for him, etc. Doesn't necessarily mean one person's choice is better than the others'.

thorazine
October 12, 2010, 06:29 PM
My vote would go to,

[X] P220.

Or perhaps the P220ST if you find one.

I loved the ST.

Only reason I sold it was I had too many forty fives.

1KPerDay
October 12, 2010, 06:37 PM
I loved the ST.

Only reason I sold it was I had too many forty fives.Uh... what? does not compute. :D

Kingofthehill
October 12, 2010, 06:48 PM
NO kimber will keep up with a P220. Im not a sig fan, but the p220 is pure perfection.

JOe

DenaliPark
October 12, 2010, 08:00 PM
I'd never buy a Kimber, ever! I did however buy a Sig P220SAO......If it's going to be a 1911, then I prefer the original, like this....

The Lone Haranguer
October 12, 2010, 08:32 PM
A closer comparison would be the SAO version of the P220. Despite its not being as slender or flat and not having quite as good a trigger as the 1911, that is what I would get as it is more likely to be reliable out of the box. I very nearly bought one in 2007, but got the SIG 1911 instead ... big mistake. :banghead:

NMGonzo
October 12, 2010, 08:37 PM
I was ogling at a Sig 220 today; it made my 1911 cry.

gwnorth
October 12, 2010, 09:14 PM
Of those two, I would have to go with the kimber. I have small hands, and the P220 (as much as I would love to have one) is just too fat in the grip for me to be really comfortable with it. A 1911's grip is fine for me though, and my only .45acp pistols are Colt 1911s.

Although, there are some slim grips for the P220, and I've not tried one with any such on it, so maybe...

OmutaX
October 12, 2010, 09:34 PM
Here's how I'd choose if I could just have one, not regarding price:

Earlier Kimber >>> W. German P220

Kimber Series 2 (earlier 2000's models) = German made, milled slide P220

RIA >>> Current MIM railed P220 >>> Current Kimbers

Some of the Kimbers manufactured as of late are so badly QC'd I would never buy a new one. The RIA is sort of a joke, but the ones I shot have been just as good as Kimbers of late. P220 with rail gets neg points from me subjectively because of the rails :P

jon_in_wv
October 18, 2010, 10:02 PM
A few months ago I bought a new P220 assembled from German parts. It has the narrower trigger and the stamped steel slide. It is a fantastic weapon. I've had several 1911s and sold them all over the years. I can't imagine selling my P220. It is a fantastic weapon. I do still have the itch for a 1911 once in a while but you are hard pressed to find a 1911 at the price of a P220 what will perform as well as the P220.

wojownik
October 19, 2010, 01:44 AM
I love both the 1911 and Sig ... but for carry I went with the p220. I have three 1911s (Colt, Springfield and Sistema Colt), and had considered either the Kimber or the Sig 1911. But the p220 gave me the features I was looking for in both a carry and range piece - SA/DA, decocker, better sights (for me, at least), and a form factor I was most familiar with (having carried Sig 9mm models for some years).

Having said all that, the 1911 has a special place in my heart and is one of my favorite range toys.

Bones11b
October 19, 2010, 02:21 AM
I had to decide on one a couple of years ago. I went with the P220 Match SAO. My decision was based on my personal experience having owned P220's in the past, as well as a number of 1911's. By going with the model I chose I now have a gun that has been as reliable as my previous P220's and more accurate than any of my 1911's. I also don't have a grip safety to worry about, a feature I never learned to appreciate on the 1911 platform. The trigger is excellent to say the least on the match edition guns. Only changes I plan on making are swapping the target sights for more combat oriented sights, and getting a set of slimmer grips.

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