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Sheepdog1968
October 12, 2010, 06:01 PM
I have a friend whose home burnt down in 2001. He had to start over. What would you do differently? I'm not setting limits or anything like that. I'm sure we all have learned a thing or two about what we like, dislike, etc. I certainly bet, we'd be happy to get rid of that big box of gear we bought and didn't like.

As for me, probably less pistols as I don't enjoy shooting them as much as I do my rifles or shotguns. I'd also harmonize on one caliber (for me it's the 45 ACP) just so I don't have to keep as many calibers in stock. I'd also probably get three of the same pistols as whatever my main back-up to long arm/CCW pistol would be. In fact, those three pistols might be all I'd want/need.

As for the rifles, I'd own more lever actions than I do now as I find them very fun. I'd cut back to one bolt action focused on hunting. Surprisingly, I'd also cut back on the semi-autos. I enjoy them but not as much as my lever actions. I'd get two semi-autos in 223 that are identical and that would be it. The hunting rifle would be a 30-06, which has oomph.

The shotguns I would want lots of as I really like them. Pumps, semi's, side by sides. The vast majority would be in 12 gauge but I'd like to get a pump and side by side in 20 gauge as well.

Also, suprisingly, I wouldn't get a 22 LR pistol or rifle. They are definately a lot of fun to shoot and inexpensive. I find that my life is busy enough where my biggest limitation is finding time to get to the range and not the cost of ammo.

I'm not planning on selling anything (well, maybe except the stuff in box of accessories I tried out and just didn't care for). I'm just daydreaming.

How about you?

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kimberkid
October 12, 2010, 09:58 PM
A while back someone had a thread called What would your spartan collection be?
(http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=488325)

A top 10 if you will ... it really made me think, of if I had to start all over what I'd want.

I wouldn't change anything about how I got to where I am though ... if I hadn't had a lot of the guns I've had I'd still be curious about them.

Here's mine again ... a little of everything.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/kimberkid/Toys/my_spartan10.jpg

huntsman
October 12, 2010, 10:04 PM
what if you had to buy them over

I'd go from 9 down to 4; two carry guns one in .380acp another in .45acp and a Marlin
.30/30 and a 12 gauge.

Sport45
October 12, 2010, 10:10 PM
I'd pretty much buy the guns I have now and avoid buying the ones that I've since sold or traded....

oneounceload
October 12, 2010, 10:11 PM
I didn't start shooting until later in my 20's a few decades ago - and then it was rifles for hunting. If I was starting over now, it would be 1 rifle for basic big game, 1 for plinking/teaching grandkids, a few handguns for carry/plinking/HD, with most of the focus on the shotguns - 2-3 12's for targets including pigeons/clays/doves/helice and 2-3 20 for walk-up hunting of quail/pheasant/chukar

and enough money to not have to reload!

ArmedBear
October 12, 2010, 10:26 PM
I'm with oneounceload.

Model 70 in .30-06. No milsurps or other random crap.
Handguns for defense, trail and match shooting (a fancy .22).
Various shotguns in 12 and 20 for Sporting Clays, Skeet and all the different birds and terrain we have around here. If I had money in return for the milsurps and random crap, I'd think more about Basque doubles.

Erik M
October 12, 2010, 10:29 PM
I would have started out with appreciation for big bore revolvers and 1911's, save money instead of buying plastic .380's.

22-rimfire
October 12, 2010, 10:46 PM
If I lost everything, guns would not be the first thing on my mind to replace. But, in the interest of the thread, I would tend to go with an approach similar to oneounceload.

First the basics are covered: For me that would include a medium priced 22 rifle, a 270 rifle for hunting, a 12 ga pump shotgun, a quality 22 revolver, and a quality 357/38 for home defense and personal protection.

Next: several quality 22 rifles, a couple 22 pistols (things like Ruger Mark II/III and Smith Model 41) and probably a high end 22 revolver, a 357 revolver, 41 mag revolver, and a couple 40 S&W pistols (probably Glocks).

If I need a mid range rifle caliber for varmint hunting or a rifle for much larger game, I'd buy it when I need it. Same would apply to additional shotguns for hunting or sport.

Frankly, I would do it similar to the way I did it already. But I'm still working on building the pile. :)

JohnBiltz
October 13, 2010, 03:18 AM
I'm pretty minimalist right now. I'd do the same but with different optics on the AR. I think my eyes are bad enough to really need a scope instead of a red dot.

Sgt_R
October 13, 2010, 07:29 AM
I know one thing for sure - I'd save hundreds of dollars on holsters, since I could skip all the trial and error and go straight to what works or me.

R

Radagast
October 13, 2010, 08:36 AM
Assuming I had funds available, and considering what I have shot well over the years:

Handguns:
Glock 17.
CZ75 SP01 Shadow & Kadet Unit.

Rifles:
CZ452 in .22 magnum.
Remington bolt in .223
Marlin 336 stainless in 30-30.

The above list would fill my needs for competition pistol shooting and hunting. Anything else would be gravy. Based on past experience I would buy more toys and enjoy them, but the above list would really fullfill all my requirements at this point in time.

doc2rn
October 13, 2010, 09:38 AM
I can say it happened to me after the Big D

Much happier with my choices now second time around
1. Colt Python
2. Colt Diamondback
3. Ruger 77/22 Mk II in .22 WMR
4. S&W mod 41
5. Weatherby Vanguard in 30-06
6. FNP-9
7. Mossberg 500
8. Marlin 1894c .38/.357
9. AR I built myself
10. The Ruger Standard dad went halves with me on my 11 B-day (the one she didnt get)!

Alex45ACP
October 13, 2010, 09:44 AM
I'd buy the following firearms in this order:

1. Glock 19
2. Arsenal SLR107
3. FAL with 18" barrel and folding stock.
4. Glock 26.
5. Marlin 60
6. Ruger MKIII
7. Keltec Sub 2000

Plus ammo, magazines, holsters, slings, sights, etc.

ForumSurfer
October 13, 2010, 10:19 AM
I'd buy the same thing I have now.

I'd eliminate a few shotguns in lieu of another bolt action or lever action, though. I own a couple of 870's, Remington 1100's and browning bottom eject pumps that are duplicates from back when I did a bunch of bird hunting.

Ala Dan
October 13, 2010, 01:12 PM
01. West German SIG-SAUER P220A .45 caliber
02. West German SIG-SAUER P228 9mm caliber
03. Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special .45 auto
04. Smith & Wesson model 39-2 9mm caliber
05. High Standard "The Victor" model .22LR
06. Colt 2nd Series (1947-1972) Dick Special .38 Spl
07. Smith & Wesson 4" [fn*] 19-3 .357 magnum
08. Smith & Wesson 3.5" model 27-2 .357 magnum
09. Smith & Wesson 4" [fn*] model 10-5 .38 Special
10. Rock River Arms Operator LAR-15 in 5.56mm

*FootNote: the use of the letters [fn] as
used above, indicate "factory nickel"~!

Sheepdog1968
October 13, 2010, 03:42 PM
If I lost everything, guns would not be the first thing on my mind to replace. But, in the interest of the thread, I would tend to go with an approach similar to oneounceload ....


It wasn't his either. Talk about a sad story. He had the home rebuilt in about 10 months. It happened New Year's day and they were back in for Thanksgiving. I actually didn't know him at the time it burnt down but saw the story on the news. It was vividly played as it was a slow time. I remember feeling quite sorry for that family.

Sheepdog1968
October 13, 2010, 03:51 PM
I know one thing for sure - I'd save hundreds of dollars on holsters, since I could skip all the trial and error and go straight to what works or me.

R
I can relate to this. I've got two big boxes full of stuff. One of these days, I'm going to get around to selling stuff. Most of it was gently used a few times and for whatever reason, I didn't care for it. Interestingly, a lot of it is shotgun stuff (Mossberg). For example, I didn't like the length of pull (14.5 or 14.75") so I bought a Bantan stock (LOP 12 "). I put it one and realized it was too short. I finally found someone willing to cut down my plastic stock & install a limbsaver pad so I now have a 13.5" or so LOP with has significantly less recoil. I've also got quite a few Blackhawk stocks (standard rifle stock w recoil reduction) and recoil reduction ones w pistol grip & adjustable stock (solved recoil & LOP but I didn't like the pistol grip).

W.E.G.
October 13, 2010, 04:00 PM
If I had to COMPLETELY start over after a fire:

Glock 17
Marlin 336
Ruger 10/22
Remington 870
AR15 (CMP-legal configuration)
AR15 Colt 6940
Glock 22
Glock 26
FAL

I could go on.
But that would be a good start.

russ69
October 13, 2010, 06:02 PM
I like everything that I have so I would want it all over again. My first trip to the gun store would be a target AR15, a target 45, and a target 22 pistol. That would get me started and give me something to shoot, while I was looking for new stuff.

Thanx, Russ

Arkansas Paul
October 13, 2010, 07:36 PM
Once I got around to guns, the first one I would buy would be a hunting rifle. Right now my main one is a Weatherby Vangaurd in .30-06, and while it may not be the exact rifle, I'd definately stick with the caliber. I may buy the same rifle too, but under the circumstances, I'd be shopping used so I could pinch pennies I imagine.
Next would come a 12 gauge that could double for hunting and HD.
After that a good .22 rifle.
That's my three main have to haves. After that, I'd start having fun again.

Jim Watson
October 13, 2010, 08:09 PM
Strangely enough, my house DID burn down and the only significant items to be recovered or salvageable were my guns. Furniture, clothes, computer, and books were burnt, scorched, smoked, or steamed beyond use. But the guns in the old uninsulated steel Treadlock were fine and the ones in the rack are salvageable; I am running them through the gunsmith for refinishing a couple at a time.

But had it gone the other way, I would have bought pistols for IDPA and defense first, probably a set of S&W Plastic M&Ps; Pro, Standard, and Compact. Followed by a BPCR; Browning .40-65 by choice, if not a Meacham Highwall. Of course good .22s, pistol and rifle. I might retool in F class but I haven't shot trap or skeet or CAS in so long that shotguns and single actions would be way down the shopping list.

FourteenMiles
October 13, 2010, 08:23 PM
Similar thread:

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=528849

kbbailey
October 13, 2010, 09:59 PM
That's an interesting question.
I think I would concentrate on more quality, and fewer numbers than I have now. I would stick with the classics.

G27RR
October 13, 2010, 10:02 PM
STI Shadow .45acp Officer 1911
STI Ranger .45acp Commander 1911
STI Lawman .45acp Government 1911
Colt Combat Elite .45acp Goverment 1911
STI 1911 .22LR conversion kit
Kahr PM9 9mm subcompact
Sig P226 Combat 9mm
Sig P238 .380 subcompact
S&W Model 60-15 .357mag

Howa 1500 .308 customized long range precision rifle
Marlin .270win hunting rifle
LaRue OBR 7.62mm
LaRue OBR 5.56mm
S&W M&P15 MOE model 5.56mm
Savage Mark II TR .22LR

That would cut things down quite a bit but I wouldn't feel like I was missing much. I only have one shotgun now, but I don't think i'd feel the need to have one in the new collection.

Edit... forgot to add a pair of Ruger Single Sixes.

wrs840
October 13, 2010, 10:14 PM
I'd buy a S&W 442 or 642 first. Then a S&W 5904 or 6904, then a S&W 3913 or 908 or two. Then a S&W M64. Then a game-suitable shotgun like an 870, 1300, or SX1. Then a Mossberg 500 model 50577, and right after that an AK47 folder or two, Then a few Marlin 336s, then a .22 bolt, then a varmint rifle, probably in .223

Then I'd go about replacing classic pride-pieces like a BHP, 92FS, and a 1911.

I'd probably not replace my SKSs and have fewer .40s, I suppose.

Les

Ignition Override
October 13, 2010, 10:20 PM
The only inherited gun is the .22 Savage.
Therefore a .22 rifle, then SKS, Lee-Enfield (#4 & #5), Garand. No changes.

You brought up a very unique, original question. Interesting.

millertyme
October 13, 2010, 10:36 PM
I think I'd do it all on the cheap and get more for my money, with the exception of a quality hunting rifle. I'd get a couple AK's for what I have in my AR, a few CZ82's to replace my 75B and my P11, I'd likely get another Buckmark, but I'd get a few 91/30's instead of a bolt action 22.lr, a cheaper 10/22, and a couple 870 Express's instead of a Wingmaster. See if I couldn't double the number of guns I had previously.

Nuclear
October 15, 2010, 04:03 PM
I'd probably buy pretty much what I have now - An M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, AR15, .22lr semi auto rifle, Buckmark, 45ACP 1911, a quality 9mm to carry (I have more than I shoot now, so one or two should fill that niche) and an inexpensive shotgun. I'd skip the multiple 9mm handguns, the 40S&W pistol (never warmed to that cartridge) and the POS SKS.

buck460XVR
October 15, 2010, 04:07 PM
I'd basically take the insurance money and buy the guns I have now. I don;t keep guns I don't like or shoot. So what I have now is what I like and what gets shot. Only ones I wouldn't replace are the ones I couldn't replace, like Grandpa's .32 special or my dad's 97 shottie.

WillDe83
October 15, 2010, 04:15 PM
M1 Garand
Ar15
HK P30s (40SW)
HK 45 (45 ACP)
Smith and Wesson M&P 9 (9mm)

OregonJohnny
October 15, 2010, 08:19 PM
With the insurance money from losing every last one of my firearms, if I had to start over, I'd immediately start with these:

Handguns:

1. Beretta 92FS (Italian-made)
2. Ruger LCP
3. S&W 442
4. Ruger SP101 (2-1/4")
5. Blued Colt 1991 series 1911 Government in .45ACP
6. Ruger MKIII Target 5.5" Stainless
7. Beretta 85FS Cheetah Nickel
8. Beretta 96A1
9. Ruger Super Blackhawk 10.5" Stainless cut to 5.5"

Rifles:

1. Colt 6920 AR-15 (completely "tacticooled") + scoped 24" varmint upper
2. Marlin 1894 Stainless .44 Magnum
3. Ruger 10/22 Stainless
4. Marlin 1895 Guide Gun Stainless with full-length mag tube
5. Remington Model 700 .30-06

Shotguns:

1. Remington 870 Marine w/ multiple barrels
2. Browning Silver Hunter 12 gauge 3" chamber, 28" barrel

amprecon
October 17, 2010, 02:49 AM
What I have now is:

- Glock 21 .45acp *
- S&W Model 10 .38spl
- Marlin 60 .22lr *
- Remington 870 12 gauge *
- Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308 *
- Springfield Armory M1A .308
- RRA LAR-6 6.8spc *
- Arsenal SLR-95 7.62X39

* = Re-buy

The toughest decision would be losing the SLR-95, but the 6.8spc can do more.

Sunray
October 17, 2010, 03:40 AM
"...What would you do differently?..." Buy replacement value insurance. Usually a rider on home insurance.

22-rimfire
October 17, 2010, 10:50 AM
My older brother's home burnt down three years ago. He lost everything that they either weren't already wearing or was essentially in their hands. He was shocked how quickly the fire got out of hand..... a few minutes. There was no... I'll make trips back and forth outside and get the important stuff.

One of his favorite rifles was a Remington Model 700 ADL in 270 win. He has taken just about every deer during his lifetime with that rifle. His was destroyed in the fire along with an assortment of other guns. I recall him talking about the Model 700 as deer season approached the following year. A neighbor gave him a brand new rifle after the fire, but it was not a Remington M700. So, about a week ago I ran onto an as-new M700 ADL in 270 win with a reasonable scope of about the same vintage as his old one for $300. Quite a bargain from my point of view..... emailed my brother and asked if he was interested and I would buy it and later transfer it over to him when I visit next. He declined. I really couldn't believe it, but he said the neighbor would have hurt feelings if he decided not to use the gifted rifle to hunt with.

My brother has only replaced three firearms; a "deer rifle", a 22 rifle, and a shotgun for bird hunting.

TCB in TN
October 17, 2010, 05:44 PM
A number of my guns were gifts or left to me and are not the kind you can just replace, but I would try. Most of the others were bought because they fit a need or I found a deal on them. Along those lines I would start out with a Remmy or Mossberg 12ga for home defense, along with a Berreta 92 9mm, also a small frame 38spc or slim .380 for CC, a good used 336 30-30 and a bolt 30-06 or .270 etc (used with decent glass) for hunting, a Marlin 39A mountie and either a mkII/III or Buckmark .22 for target, plinking etc. After that it would be just as I took a notion.

Sheepdog1968
October 18, 2010, 11:41 PM
A number of my guns were gifts or left to me and are not the kind you can just replace, but I would try. Most of the others were bought because they fit a need or I found a deal on them. Along those lines I would start out with a Remmy or Mossberg 12ga for home defense, along with a Berreta 92 9mm, also a small frame 38spc or slim .380 for CC, a good used 336 30-30 and a bolt 30-06 or .270 etc (used with decent glass) for hunting, a Marlin 39A mountie and either a mkII/III or Buckmark .22 for target, plinking etc. After that it would be just as I took a notion.
There are two I would miss the most. The first is a 22 cal pellet gun. My dad made a deal with me as I was going into my freshman year in high school. If I took Latin for a year and got A's both semesters, he would buy me my very own pellet gun. I did it and got the A's. I reminded him about the deal and the very next Sat he took me and bought me a very nice pellet gun. I was very impressed with how he stuck to the agreement. Made a big impression on me about the value of a man's word.

The other is a lever action rifle. It can easily be replaced (unlike the pellet gun). Mostly becuase I really like it.

MTMilitiaman
October 19, 2010, 12:10 AM
I would have skip the HK and the SIG, buy the Glock 19 initially, follow it up replacing the Glock 20, then buy a Buckmark and a 4" Ruger Redhawk .44 Mag.

My current M1A is one of the only possessions I'd run in to a burning building to save, and it sure as Zeus is coming out of one with me. But I'd replace the SKS, AK, and M700 purchasing a little brother for it--an M1A Squad.

I don't care much for shotguns but have grown fond of my 870. I'd pass on the Wingmaster however and get a Police. I see them in some local FFLs with Rem factory extended mag tubes and Knoxx stocks for around $450 to $500. I think one of them would do nicely.

I think I could do just about everything I need to do right now with a pair of M1As as my only rifles, a couple Glocks for bedstand and carry, a .44 for the bigger stuff and a .22 for the biggest stuff ( http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=549759 ), and a 12 gauge for the light work.

Hatterasguy
October 19, 2010, 12:14 AM
I'd have a heck of a time replacing two rifles I own. One is hard to find, another damn near impossible.

Other than that I would simply rebuild, I like my current toys. When I build myself a house I'm going to add a fire resistant gun room in the basement. Even with insurance as my collection grows and I add more rare guns, they get harder to replace.

Zundfolge
October 19, 2010, 12:26 AM
If I had it all to do over again I'd reduce the number of calibers. No reason I need 5 different handgun calibers ... one for autos and one for revolvers would probably do me just fine.

MinnMooney
October 19, 2010, 02:04 AM
If I lost everything in a fire I'd be really, really sad. I received several guns from my late dad and they were his prized possessions. They aren't replacable. The rest can easily be replaced but I wouldn't replace all of them as I've learned a few lessons along the way.

My favorite saying is, "Only accurate rifles are interesting rifles". I have absolutely no use for an inaccurate rifle.

Sheepdog1968
October 19, 2010, 01:35 PM
If I had it all to do over again I'd reduce the number of calibers. No reason I need 5 different handgun calibers ... one for autos and one for revolvers would probably do me just fine.
This I can totally relate to.

Sheepdog1968
October 19, 2010, 01:37 PM
If I lost everything in a fire I'd be really, really sad. I received several guns from my late dad and they were his prized possessions. They aren't replacable. The rest can easily be replaced but I wouldn't replace all of them as I've learned a few lessons along the way.

My favorite saying is, "Only accurate rifles are interesting rifles". I have absolutely no use for an inaccurate rifle.
I had something similar happen with the pocketknife my dad gave me when I was 7. At some point, I couldn't stand the though of loosing it. I stopped carrying it and bought a simple swissarmy knife to replace it. I didn't want it to be a gift knife from someone. I 'm glad I did. Sep 11 happened and in the early days I lost several knives as I kept forgetting to leave it at home and would only remember at the airport.

easyg
October 19, 2010, 02:26 PM
If I had to rebuild my gun collection from scratch....

I would forget about revolvers altogether.
I know this will ruffle the feathers of the wheel-gun fans, but I just don't enjoy shooting revolvers these days.
I recently sold my Taurus 905 and I will soon be trading my S&W 637 for another semi, and I have gotten rid of my other revolvers long ago.

I also wouldn't bother replacing my two shotguns.
I never shoot them anyway.
I don't hunt, I can't carry them concealed, and they're not even that great for home defense IMO.

I wouldn't replace my rifles either, mostly for the same reasons that I wouldn't replace the shotguns.

Instead I would spend my money...
(1) replacing my Glock 23,
(2) replace my wife's Glock 27,
(3) get a conversion barrel for my Glock 23 (in .357Sig),
(4) buying plenty of ammo and magazines for both Glocks,
(5) maybe buy a S&W M&P compact .40 to see how it fares against my Glock 23.

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