2nd deer of the season


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T.R.
October 12, 2010, 05:33 PM
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My hunt began well before dawn within an area at Aberdeen Proving Grounds that we've never hunted before. The Army opens and closes forested areas without consulting us. :)

The morning was not productive. After a lunch break we developed a fresh battle plan and I was assigned a post along Chesapeake Bay with an active patch of white oak trees. By active I mean to say that acorns are dropping without ceasing. This food source draws in animals like a magnet and during the afternoon I spotted 5 does within easy crossbow range. But due to angles or leafy cover, I shot just this one doe. Every hunter has his own ethics. For me, I'll take a "high percentage" kill shot or pass up the animal. I killed this doe with a double lung shot at approx 25 yards. The animal wobbled a little and collapsed about four car lengths from impact. My bolt sailed through the deer and at least half of its length was embedded into the soil! During field dressing, I observed severe damage to tubing above the heart. I'm guessing that instant loss of blood pressure caused the doe to lose oxygen to the brain which explains the wobbling and collapse.

This hunt took place on OCT 11th but foolishly I did not check camera battery power before I left for the hunt. By the time I got home, it was late and I hurriedly skinned, quartered, and placed the venison in large cooler with ice. Finally hit the pillow after midnight. This photo was taken following morning. Admittedly this photo is less-than-ideal but best I could do.

This Maryland doe weighed in at 72 lbs after field dressing. Thick fat was observed at loins and hind quarter. This venison will be a TOP Trophy on the dinner table. Praise God for His bountiful blessings!!

TR

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Freedom_fighter_in_IL
October 12, 2010, 05:41 PM
Thick fat? Look out on the East coast then. You all are more than likely in for a whopper of a winter!!! Funny how the animals know that isn't it!

T.R.
October 12, 2010, 11:23 PM
You might be right. Al Gore has been way off with his Global Warming theory that brought him a $1 million Nobel Peace Prize.

I don't mind Winter until about middle of March. That's when I've had enough.

Good hunting to you.

TR

avs11054
October 13, 2010, 12:06 PM
I've got a question? What state do you go to to get a '2nd deer of the season?' I grew up in colorado and now live in arizona. Anything more than one big game animal per year is called poaching is those states

grubbylabs
October 13, 2010, 12:26 PM
There are quite a few state that have such huge deer populations that the hunters are allowed to take several deer a year, some are as many as a deer a week. Here in Idaho we can harvest One bear, one Elk,and one Deer, and if we put in for an X tag we can harvest a white tail deer as well. Oh plus we can also take a Mt. Lion. I almost forgot you could also put in for a draw only animal if you did over the counter tags on the others, so you could also hunt a Moose,goat, or antelope.

avs11054
October 13, 2010, 12:33 PM
what state so you go to to get a '2nd dear of the season?' I grew up in colorado, and I now live in arizona. Anything more than one in a year is called poaching in those states

Yarddog
October 13, 2010, 12:34 PM
FL allows 2 deer a day, No limit on season ; )
Y/D

avs11054
October 13, 2010, 12:37 PM
FL allows 2 deer a day, No limit on season ; )
Y/D
is it a draw or over the counter? How much for out of state tags?

grubbylabs
October 13, 2010, 01:23 PM
I have a friend that grew up in Az and he is quite happy he lives here in Idaho now.

We are one of the cheapest places for out of state hunters and you can get at least one deer tag and one elk tag. And if you draw on a X tag it is an extra and does not go against your other drawings, its the only time you can draw two tags in one season.

desidog
October 13, 2010, 01:36 PM
I've got a question? What state do you go to to get a '2nd deer of the season?' I grew up in colorado and now live in arizona. Anything more than one big game animal per year is called poaching is those states

Take a look:
http://www.ct.gov/dep/cwp/view.asp?a=2700&q=429004&depNav_GID=1633

Between archery, rifle, and muzzleloader, plus landowner; plus the fact that if you go into a check station they'll hand out another doe tag after you've tagged out...i just don't have enough freezer-space or hungry friends to fill all my tags.

ar24095
October 13, 2010, 02:34 PM
Some regulations from V.A.
Bag Limits

East of the Blue Ridge (except on National Forest lands in Amherst, Bedford, and Nelson counties)
The bag limit for deer shall be two a day, six a license year. Of the six deer limit, no more than three may be antlered deer and at least three must be antlerless deer.
West of the Blue Ridge and on National Forest lands in Amherst, Bedford, and Nelson counties
The bag limit for deer shall be one a day and five a license year. Of the five deer limit, no more than two may be antlered deer and at least three must be antlerless deer (unless noted in the exception below).

* The bag limit for deer shall be two a day on private lands in Clarke, Frederick, Shenandoah, and Warren counties and in the City of Winchester.
* If a hunter kills two antlered deer in Shenandoah County, at least one of the antlered deer must have at least 4 antler points, 1 inch or longer, on one side.

Earn a Buck (EAB)

At least one antlerless deer must be taken on private lands in Bedford, Clarke, Fairfax, Fauquier, Franklin, Frederick, Loudoun, Patrick, Prince William, Roanoke, Shenandoah, and Warren counties and in the City of Winchester before the second antlered deer of the license year may be taken on private lands in any of these localities. Furthermore, at least two antlerless deer must have been taken on private lands in Bedford, Fairfax, Fauquier, Franklin, Loudoun, Patrick, and Prince William counties before the third antlered deer of the license year may be taken on private lands in any of these counties. For more information go to the Earn a Buck (EAB) Questions & Answers section.
Bag Limit Exceptions

* Deer hunters, including those exempt from purchasing a license, on private land and authorized public lands may take more than the license-year bag limit of antlerless deer by using bonus deer permits or special permits (DCAP, DMAP, and DPOP). See Bonus Deer Permits section.
* DCAP, DMAP, and DPOP tags do not count against the daily or season bag limit.

Bonus Deer Permits

* Are valid for one year from date of purchase.
* Are valid for antlerless deer only.
* Are not restricted to the number that may be purchased and used.
* Allow deer to be taken in addition to the license year bag limit.
* Do not allow daily bag limit to be exceeded.
* Are valid only on private lands and authorized public lands.
* Are not valid on National Forest and Department-owned lands.
* Are not valid in Buchanan, Dickenson, and Wise counties.
* Are valid during the archery, muzzleloader, and firearms deer seasons.
* Are valid only on designated either-sex deer hunting days.

UpTheIrons
October 13, 2010, 02:42 PM
what state so you go to to get a '2nd dear of the season?' I grew up in colorado, and I now live in arizona. Anything more than one in a year is called poaching in those states
In Texas it varies by county. The county in which I live has a one buck limit, but the county where my lease is has a 5 deer limit: 2 bucks and 3 does. The total number of deer allowed to be taken in one year throughout the state (on a standard in-state hunting license) is 5, no more than 3 bucks.

So, I could take 2 bucks and 2 does in my lease county, and another buck in my home county, or 2 bucks and 3 does in my lease county. Believe me, this is not an issue when it comes to population - my lease county has the highest per-capita deer population in the state. They are literally everywhere.

Arkansas Paul
October 13, 2010, 07:11 PM
You can take 5 in some zones this year in Arkansas. In zone 13 where I hunt you can kill no more than two bucks and or up to five does.
I was born in Alabama and there you could kill an ungodly amount of deer in a year. About a hundred counting bow season if I'm not mistaken. That was about 15 years ago. You could kill one a day. Doe season was a month long and you could a buck and a doe a day during that. Don't know if it's still like that. (Or even if I'm remembering it correctly)

jeepmor
October 13, 2010, 10:48 PM
I really envy you guys who can get multiple deer per year, must be nice. I wish Oregon had that type of game management issues.

ar24095
October 13, 2010, 11:39 PM
The reason we have so many tags and earn a buck program in the county I live in is because of being way over populated with deer. My hunting partner is assistant superintendent for VDOT in our area and last year by August they had picked up 270 dead deer off the road ways in just our district. So I try to do my part and keep them off the roads while also feeding my family and friends. What a way to give back to the community:)

HOOfan_1
October 14, 2010, 12:19 AM
I don't doubt that far more deer die due to vehicle collision in Virginia than by hunting. I was driving up 17 to 66 yo 81 early last November and I would say I saw a dead deer along the road almost every mile.

I've been hunting deer for 20 years though and have only shot 3. I only hunt regular firearms season though and unfortunately get messed up fairly often by people doing drives and running dogs through my hunting stand...which usually only ever drives the does and scares the bucks off in other directions.

T.R.
October 20, 2010, 05:33 PM
I hunt in Maryland where the deer are plentiful.

When You buy your non-resident Maryland license it comes with 12 deer tags: 2 buck and 10 doe. Baltimore County has unlimited doe tags. No daily bag limit.

I often hunt at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland which is an active US Army Base. The deer are managed by US Fish & Wildlife Service. None of the 12 deer tags mentioned above are counted by state of Maryland because this is a Federal property. Aberdeen has it's own bag limits. At Aberdeen, you must kill 3 does after each buck is taken. This can be frustrating when a "big one" is within easy crossbow range but you're still in the mode of shooting does. So it goes.

Maryland has abundant deer:

- mild winters

- no large predators (except humans)

- high fawn survival rate

- excellent blend of forests & farms

TR

Freedom_fighter_in_IL
October 20, 2010, 06:07 PM
At Aberdeen, you must kill 3 does after each buck is taken.

You do mean BEFORE each buck is taken correct? Like the "Earn A Buck" Program in a few other states.

HunterGirl
October 20, 2010, 06:15 PM
Congrats!

To those who can't shoot more than one.....I routinely shoot 3-4 deer a year in Minnesota and Wyoming. Just higher populations I guess.

NOLAEMT
October 20, 2010, 06:48 PM
Here is Georgia, we have a yearly limit of 2 bucks and 10 does per year.

Hunting season this year is also from September 11th until January 1st.

Legal firearms are ANY .22 caliber or larger center-fire firearm. I guess the state trusts the hunter to pick a firearm and load that will give an ethical kill, instead of trying to over legislate it.

(you could use a baby browning .25 acp if you wanted to)

GRAYRID3R
October 22, 2010, 09:12 PM
I got 2 of my 10 Does on October 16 opening day for rifles, within seconds of each other. About 0930 a small herd of 8 paraded in front of my blind crossing a field between 85 and 120 yds. out. I picked out the 2 biggest and prayed. I got the first one and the last one as fast as it took to work the lever on my .308 Marlin Xpress. Sorry I sound like I'm bragging, but they were my 1st 2 deer ever. I just started hunting last year and saw a total of 3 deer all year. Already have half a freezer full (large freezer). Went out again today and saw 3 bucks, small ( 4 pt ) medium (8 pt) and one that looked twice the size of the medium one, literally crashing through a wood line. The woods and distance made it impossible to see the size of his rack. Got the scope on the other 2, but they were going through the woods over 100 yds away, so...no shot. I have a feeling this is going to be a good year. :)

FLAvalanche
October 23, 2010, 08:18 AM
is it a draw or over the counter? How much for out of state tags?

Florida Non-Resident 1 Year license is $151.50 and Non-Resident 10 day is $46.50. Add $5.00 to that for your deer permit. And yes, that 2 deer per day is over-the-counter.

Our deer season this year in my area started July 31st with archery and ran until General Gun that ended Oct. 17th. General Gun will pick back up Nov. 20th until Jan 2nd of 2011.

So basically that's 6 months of 2 deer per day. During Archery it's either sex. During Crossbow, Muzzleloader and General Gun it's buck only unless you have an anterless deer permit (those permits are tied to the property your hunting only) and then during a special 7 day period during General Gun you can hunt either sex.

Next year has the possibility of being even better. They're merging Archery and Crossbow seasons. I'm curious to see if they will let us take both sex for a longer period of time.

interlock
October 23, 2010, 09:05 AM
I've got a question? What state do you go to to get a '2nd deer of the season?' I grew up in colorado and now live in arizona. Anything more than one big game animal per year is called poaching is those states
thats terrible! even here in our crowded little island kingdom we can shoot as many deer as we like throughout the year! last year i shot 20 or so. this year i have only shot 4 or 5.

FLAvalanche
October 23, 2010, 11:59 AM
When I left Pennsylvania in 1992 you could only shoot one deer a year. You could apply for an extra doe tag but you had a better chance of winning the Pa lottery.

If you killed your deer on the first day of Archery you were done for the rest of the year.

Silly.

interlock
October 28, 2010, 03:23 AM
so the system of only being allowed to shoot one deer, is this on public land? on private land it's different surely?

birdbustr
November 4, 2010, 12:46 PM
I've been driving around looking for somewhere to go deer hunting in Chesapeake, Virginia since I've been stationed here. I have some time off between my assignments that I strategically planned for November. So far, not much luck with finding any private land to hunt near me. WMA's have been scary in my experiences with them.
I guess I'll just save up for some "full-size deer" when I go to New York state for Thanksgiving at my Ma-In-Law's.

wombat13
November 4, 2010, 02:03 PM
so the system of only being allowed to shoot one deer, is this on public land? on private land it's different surely?
No, the regulations apply to all land in the relevant management area. In states like NY and PA, few landowners own enough land that the deer never leave the property. That means that if you harvest too many deer this year your neighbors will have fewer deer next year.

JEB
November 4, 2010, 04:29 PM
I've got a question? What state do you go to to get a '2nd deer of the season?' I grew up in colorado and now live in arizona. Anything more than one big game animal per year is called poaching is those states

come to iowa. i never even thought of those kinds of restrictions because round here 3-5 deer is a fairly slow saturday. we generaly only hunt on the weekend during gun seasons and last year we ended up with just under 50. yeah, we hunt as a group but we area very small group (4-8 people usually). our neighbors hunt in a larger group and they ended up with well over 100.

dont get too excited, deer down here are WAY overpopulated and whenever i get to talking to folks in the area about how the season is doing, they always tell us to shoot more! i just say "no problem, give me money for the tags!".....they never do though...:(

as far as me personally...last year i took 2 with a bow, 2 with a shotgun, and 3 with my 30-30. cant wait to start again in december! (i missed bow season due to insufficient funds:banghead:)

countertop
November 4, 2010, 04:52 PM
some are as many as a deer a week.

In Virginia this season, you could in theory take 2 deer every day (except Sunday - don't get me started) from September 4, 2010 until March 26, 2011 and all you would need are a regular hunting license, a big game license, an archery tag, a muzzleloader tag, and bonus deer permits (once you got your 6 deer on the basic license).


is it a draw or over the counter? How much for out of state tags?

Resident
Hunting License (age 16 and older) $18.00
Bear, Deer, Turkey License $18.00
Archery License $18.00
Muzzleloading License $18.00
Resident Bonus Deer Permit (6 antlerless tags) $18.00


Non Resident
Hunting License $86.00
Bear, Deer, Turkey License $66.00
Archery License $31.00
Muzzleloading License $31.00
Bonus Deer Permit (6 antlerless tags $31.00

countertop
November 4, 2010, 04:57 PM
birdbustr


Much private land in virginia is leased up by hunting clubs. Look around, down your way there are plenty of clubs always looking for members, and its cheap. Up here in NoVA its pretty pricey to join a club (figure $1000 or more vs $200-300 in S. Virginia)

PM me for more info. I can probably help you out.

JEB
November 4, 2010, 05:14 PM
pardon me, forgot to congradulate you on a successful hunt!

just curious, why do you choose to hunt with a crossbow instead of a compound? ive never fired a crossbow but on the few occasions ive held them, they struck me as heavy and seemed like they would be difficult to manuver in the woods.

hunt
November 4, 2010, 07:20 PM
avs
where i live between archery,blackpowder (early and late) rifle and shotgun
we can get 5 tags per hunter if you draw both doe permitts allowed
so that means a total of 20 tags in my family i love hunting :)
and this is just for whitetail and we are allowed a bear too

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