October 12, 2010, 09:31 PM
Finally! Someone has noticed there are two classes of citizens in this country.
October 13, 2010, 03:29 PM
I sure do like Justice Clarence Thomas. One of my favorite people :)
October 14, 2010, 11:58 PM
I've liked him since the day he proclaimed there was a pubic hair in his Coke...now there is a man not afraid to speak his mind!!!!!! :what:
October 15, 2010, 12:15 AM
Honestly there are 2 classes of citizens.
1.) Free law-abiding citizen's. This is you before you break a law. You can do anything the constitution gives you the right to (not valid in Chicago, Maryland, Washington DC, Airports, Colleges or other places specified in various legal documents at local, state and federal level).
2.) Criminals. These are the individuals who have given up their rights by failing to fulfill their responsibility to abide by the laws set forth for the populace.
Yes that means I think that being free comes with the responsibility that you must abide by the laws which are agreed upon by the people. This is called "Social Contract." If you choose not to abide by agreed upon laws and shirk your responsibility (like avoid the draft, fail to pay taxes, or shoot your neighbor because they wore a pink shirt) then you forfeit your rights as a citizen.
Let's put this in Firearms Context.
I can buy, own, and with some paperwork carry guns. However I have agreed that I will not be unnecessarily violent in doing so. If I do something which demonstrates I have a propensity towards unnecessary violence (commit assault, destruction of property etc.) or am un-capable of properly handling the tools I use (commit a firearms offense such as unlawful firearm discharge, illegally brandish etc.) then I forfeit my rights. I have shown I am incapable of managing the responsibilities that these rights come with.
The only "Problem" with our legal system and criminal treatment is that it has grown to excess. Consider that in some jurisdictions a drunken mistake of urination in public counts as public exposure, which is a sex crime and gets you registered (sidebar: if you ever commit a sex crime just kill yourself, your life is over). Possessing banned substances such as THC containing organics can also get you into jail, even though we allow trade in alcohol. Also consider the conviction system is not perfect, far from it, and all I think I have to say here is "Claim of Domestic Violence" and the picture paints itself.
October 15, 2010, 01:05 AM
Actually, bigalexe is right in identifying a third class of citizen.
Go look at Dred Scott. SCOTUS ruled that minorities brought over here for the purposes of slavery can never be citizens. The 14A gave them a limited form of citizenship. It's a very crappy SCOTUS decision; it should be overturned.
The Dave Champion Show is going to cover the 14A on Friday.
October 15, 2010, 03:41 AM
Laws of citizenship are fine if voted BY THE PEOPLE.If you're not upset everytime someone passes a law for "your own good",w/o a vote of the people; [I better behave]