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LHRGunslinger
October 13, 2010, 09:21 PM
I have no experience with them so I have to ask. Why doesn't anyone really like them? Are they poorly built? Crappy fit/finish? Hard to maintain? Or is it simply because they've become a weapon associated with "mall ninjas" because it's used so often in films and games?

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dcarch
October 13, 2010, 09:27 PM
Because they're the size of small tanks? Because they kick like a llama with irritable bowel syndrome? Because no one can seem to make a good IWB holster for them?
Because .50 AE ammo costs and arm and a leg? They're great guns though, if you're a movie director. :D

rogertc1
October 13, 2010, 10:34 PM
My DE is a Mk 1 in satin nickle and with gold apointments. mine is in .44Mag
It uses .44 mag revolver ammo and has been dependable and due to the guns heavy weight i find the recoil pretty mild. The DE is a very well built gun. Best to use jacked highest power rounds.
A lot of friends cant cock the gun as it takes a good grip and technic. It is not a gun for the sheepish.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/rogertc1/firearms/DesertEagle.jpg

Hk Dan
October 13, 2010, 10:57 PM
Well, they are pretty snarky in terms of maintenance, too. They have a chamber kind of like an AR, and they like to be CLEAN. Properly cared for, they're an excellent gun for hunting. Don't think you'd wanna carry one very long...

Rembrandt
October 13, 2010, 11:44 PM
Why doesn't anyone really like them? Are they poorly built? Crappy fit/finish? Hard to maintain? Or is it simply because they've become a weapon associated with "mall ninjas" because it's used so often in films and games?


That's quite a mouthful of negatives.....appears you're right about one thing, you have no experience with them.

LHRGunslinger
October 14, 2010, 07:36 AM
As for ammo costs you can get a Desert Eagle XIX in .357 Magnum which isn't extraordinarily pricey.

And I know that I have no experience with them. I said that I have no personal experience with them.

I know it wouldn't make a very good concealed carry peice. I was thinking of getting one as a range toy after I improved my pistol skills with a .22LR.

@Rembrandt: Thank you for pointing out that I am utterly clueless on the subject. Next time instead of telling me I'm a bloody fool how about you try explaining WHY those preconceptions are wrong?

MrOldLude
October 14, 2010, 11:11 AM
Why doesn't anyone really like them?
Generalize much?

RetLawman590
October 14, 2010, 12:41 PM
The only DE I would be interested in buying is their 1911.

TheCol.U.S.M.C.
October 14, 2010, 12:49 PM
I think in .44mag there great soft shooting compared to a model 29 I allmost had a chance to pick one up two weeks ago for $800 allmost new only 25 rounds threw it. This one was a mark XIX in .44mag I was pretty bummed when the deal fell threw

Storm
October 14, 2010, 01:25 PM
I have only found my .357 and .44 to be soft shooting and dead accurate and with full power ammo completely reliable. What Hollywood chooses to do is of no concern to me. I don't go to malls, and the last video game that I played was Atari many moons ago. Judging a gun even in part based upon the uses of it by some slathering idiots is just downright silly.

LHRGunslinger
October 14, 2010, 05:00 PM
New question. What are the differences between the MkVII and the MkXIX?

ScratchnDent
October 14, 2010, 05:19 PM
I had a .50AE about 12 years ago. I liked it as a range toy. The biggest problem was the cost and limited availability of ammo and the fact that my friends always wanted to shoot it.

eddism
October 14, 2010, 05:27 PM
http://eddro.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/232323232fp53375_nu34_6_49_735_25749826238ot1lsi.jpg


Magnum Research Desert Eagle 1911G

bannockburn
October 14, 2010, 06:49 PM
A friend of mine had one in .44 Mag.; primarily used it as a range toy. Recoil is quite mild, especially when compared to shooting the same round out of a Ruger Super Blackhawk or a S&W Model 29. The gun really needs to be kept clean because of the gas action, and I believe you're only supposed to use jacketed ammo in it.

MTMilitiaman
October 14, 2010, 08:18 PM
My dad and my grandpa each bought .44 Mag Desert Eagles back when the Mk VII was the new model. Since then, they've each taken several head of game with them, and enough rounds to have gotten several times their entertainment value from each of them. My brother and I have been shooting these pistols since our early teens. My brother thought enough of his early experiences with the pistol to buy a Mk XIX .50AE during his first deployment. That is worth its weight (significant) and cost in entertainment very quickly--mucho bigga fireball!

In general, Desert Eagles are well built, durable, and reliable. In our experience, they are accurate as rail guns and have no real special maintenance requirements, other than that you do clean them every once in a while and stick to jacketed ammunition. The .44 Mags are very tame. Even with the hottest loads you can stick in them, the .44 Mag Desert Eagle has been the softest shooting .44 I've ever had the pleasure of firing. The .50 is considerably more so, but you understand and expect this when you see the cartridge it fires. It still isn't unpleasant--more just 'wow.' The fireball is impressive.

Speaking of which, one time my grandpa double charged one of his handloads for his Desert Eagle. He said "it just felt weird going off." He had to have the molten brass cleaned out of the gas port and firing pin channel, but no parts had to be replaced, and the pistol still functions flawlessly.

They make decent hunting pistols, though it does suck losing brass in the brush, esp in the case of the .50AE and .440 Corbon. They are more than adequately accurate and powerful for this purpose. But they are undoubtedly more for fun and entertainment value than anything. The Desert Eagle provides a decent amount of this. It is a unique enough shooting experience that I think everyone should at least try one. If you're looking for that sort of excitement from an auto, the Desert Eagle is about the only game in town.

You do have the manhandle them as they can be prone to limpwrist failures, in our experience. The pistol has a large grip. It feels large even to those who have no problem handling other large handguns, like the full size Glocks and USPs. And while the Desert Eagle's weight does help control recoil, it can be ridiculous sometimes. It is a well machined five pound chunk of metal--end of the world durable--but very quickly heavy enough to be tiresome when held out in front of the body at arm's length. Find a good holster if you plan to pack it around.

It's nice having a handgun with a more bassy, throaty roar, larger fireball, and louder visual and auditory effect on target at 100 yards than the other guy's poodle shooter.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l308/MTMilitiaman/Guns/DesertEagle50checkmate.jpg

dcarch
October 14, 2010, 08:21 PM
I know a bunch of y'all like the DE, and I know they make one in .357. I just couldn't resist throwing in something about a llama with irritable bowel syndrome. :D
Hey eddism, how does your DE 1911 function? I've wanted to get one for a while now. (If you don't want to hijack this thread, I started one on the DE 1911 couple of days ago.)

LHRGunslinger
October 14, 2010, 09:23 PM
Once I get a job I'm SO making a good IWB holster for the Desert Eagle just for dcarch

TIMC
October 14, 2010, 10:59 PM
What most people don't like about the Desert Eagle is the are a massive handgun that is very heavy and the recoil of the .50 AE round can be a little much for some shooters.

I personally like mine a lot. I had the factory muzzle brake added to my .50 AE barrel This was a big improvement in recoil and looks. I am thinking of putting one on the .44 mag barrel too.

Would I use this gun as a carry weapon? Heck no but it is a fun range toy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/DesertEaglewithmuzzlebrake.jpg

LHRGunslinger
October 14, 2010, 11:04 PM
How's the trigger pull on these big mean mothers?

TIMC
October 14, 2010, 11:16 PM
I would say mine is about 4 lbs.

LHRGunslinger
October 14, 2010, 11:22 PM
Well that settles that. 1st Job 2nd .357 Mag matte black Desert Eagle

TIMC
October 14, 2010, 11:32 PM
pass on the .357; go right for the .44 or .50AE!

LHRGunslinger
October 15, 2010, 12:03 AM
I was thinkin .357 so I could get used to the controls and so I wouldn't risk handing it to my girlfriend and havin it pop her in the eye.

TIMC
October 15, 2010, 12:11 AM
The .44 mag is a real pussycat to shoot out of the Desert Eagle, there is very little recoil. Then it will be an easy step up to the .50 when you're ready.

LHRGunslinger
October 15, 2010, 05:17 PM
Ok I think I might get the component set because I'd rather err on the side of caution for my girls sake if no one elses.

rogertc1
October 20, 2010, 02:13 PM
LHRG: Advise. before you buy one see if you can accually pull the slide back. Near impossible to do if you have small hands or a weak grip. get a good job cause they aint cheap
Mark I and VII
The Mark I, which is no longer produced, was offered with a steel, stainless steel or aluminum alloy frame and differs primarily in the size and shape of the safety levers and slide catch. The Mark VII includes an adjustable trigger (retrofittable to Mark I pistols). The Mark I and VII are both available in .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum; the Mark VII has been chambered for .41 Magnum. The barrels had a 3/8" dovetail, to which an accessory mount could be attached. Later Mark VII models were offered in .50 Action Express with a 7/8" Weaver-pattern rail on the barrel; the .50 Mark VII would later become the Mark XIX platform. Barrel lengths were 6, 8, 10 and 14 inches.

Mark XIX
The most recent model, the Mark XIX, is available in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, and .50 Action Express (or .50 AE). This model comes in a variety of different finishes, such as brushed chrome or titanium gold. Magnum Research offered this model in .440 Cor-bon caliber, a .50 AE derived case. Mark XIX barrels are available in 6 and 10 inch lengths only
The DE44CA is the only XIX that is approved for dealer sales to the public in the State of California: it differs from standard XIXs in that it has a firing-pin block incorporated in its design.

awgrizzly
October 20, 2010, 03:22 PM
New question. What are the differences between the MkVII and the MkXIX?
A little late on this, but I believe the significance of the MKVII is that it's built on a smaller frame (if you can call it small). They upped the frame size for the 50 cal. I have a MKVII .44 mag and, though I haven't shot it a lot, with the weight and gas operation it's very comfortable. It takes more effort to hold it up than to shoot it. =o)

DesertFox
October 20, 2010, 03:34 PM
50AE is all show, no much go. 44 Magnum is a far better choice for hunting, IMOHO. I've shot all calibers in most all barrel lengths and I can certify that Desert Eagles are fantastic platforms for hunting and target shooting. That is their gig. Not CCW. Recoil is mild with grip size being the limiting factor for folks with smaller sized hands. I've been looking for one with the 15" barrel. 41 Magnum versions are quite nice as well.

Mooseman
October 20, 2010, 04:07 PM
a friend of mine let me try his in 44 magnum. I was very pleasantly surprised at how mild the recoil was compared to my revolver. I think the .357 version is too light for this size gun and action, 44 mag is probably the way to go. Make sure you can rack it and reach all the controls before you buy it. I have big hands and it used up pretty much all of my available grip.

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