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briney11
October 14, 2010, 04:27 PM
Thinking about a second 1911. I already have a Kimber Custom II that I bought new a couple years ago. I am thinking about either a Springfield mil spec, a Colt 1991 or a Colt series 70 reissue. So what advice could you all give me on these 3 1911's?

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eddism
October 14, 2010, 04:32 PM
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BlayGlock
October 14, 2010, 05:09 PM
None of the above. In that price range I'd go with STI spartan or Trojan. Out of those three SA Mil Spec but I would get a beavertail safety and new hammer.

JTQ
October 14, 2010, 05:50 PM
As pointed out none of your options has a beavertail. I don't need one, but since you have a Kimber your hand may be expecting one and these may feel different.

Try and handle each of them to make sure they are what you want. The Series 70 and Springfield will have an arched mainspring housing and short triggers while the 1991 has the flat housing and long trigger.

I think you would be good with any one of those listed. I have a Colt with the Series 80 firing pin safety and it works just fine, so I wouldn't worry about that, if you are. I would like a GI look 1911, with the arched housing and short trigger and the one that is on the top of my list is the Series 70 Repro.

briney11
October 16, 2010, 09:57 AM
Thanks everyone. I think I am leaning towards the Colt.

gwnorth
October 16, 2010, 10:55 AM
I have a current production Colt 1991a1 stainless Combat Commander that I've been very happy with. It has been 100% reliable right out of the box and for $800 I think the fit and finish is quite good. There are other good options available too, but I don't think you'd be disappointed with a Colt (my next one will be an original series 70 gov't, when I find a good deal - just missed out on LNIB one earlier this year).

http://www.mbblack.com/pictures/Colt_2.jpg

marlas1too
October 16, 2010, 11:28 AM
i have 2 rock island and 1 Springfield 1911,s all are very good and none cost me over 700.00 and all are in 45 acp

bluez4u
October 17, 2010, 10:45 PM
It's always nice to have a Colt in the collection!

Jed Carter
October 19, 2010, 06:02 AM
Mil spec and GI type sights suck, get a pistol that has dovetail front and rear sight cuts. STI Trojan great out of the box, best trigger for the money IMO. It takes more than a beavertail to make a pistol shoot like a custom. The right barrel / bushing fit, good sights, proper engagement of the hammer, sear, disconnector and a quality set of springs and pins. To add a beavertail to a mil-spec frame would require cutting down the frame spur, would it not.

Zerodefect
October 19, 2010, 07:42 AM
Uh....am I the only one noticing that everyone is suggesting 1911's that are allmost identical to the Custom II he allready has? LOLz.:neener:


If your after a retro 1911 look the Colt 1991 is the way to go. I'd still want to cut the frame for a Ed Brown Gripsafety eventually, and change out that hammer. I don't find it's simple sights to be all that bad really. But I do love the old school WW1 look.

Otherwise get something different than your Custom II or just invest a little into customizing it. Sights, trigger job, etc.

mljdeckard
October 19, 2010, 07:44 AM
What is it you want to do with it that you can't or won't do with the one you have?

KnightHawk
October 19, 2010, 01:00 PM
From the '70s, I wasted tons of money on Colts, the 1911 is the only pistol I ever really cared for and Colt was all I ever wanted. I shot thousands of rounds and thought, well, I guess that is a good as I can shoot, I had 3 custom built guns that I shot and 12 new or like new guns of all sizes to someday build into anything I might want for the future. I had a Bar-Sto barrel put in one of my guns and learned immediately that Colt barrels sucked, it shot circles around my other custom built guns. I read about Les Baer winning the FBI hostage rescue team's contract for the new gun they wanted and it sounded like exactly what I would want and I decided to make the jump to the next level in the cost of a custom pistol just to see if there was anything better about it. Being a 1911 purist, I did not like the wide body Para-Ordnance frame like the FBI ordered so I ordered a single stack traditional 1911, a Baer Concept III full size tu-tone adjustable sight gun. After the first magazine I was stunned, at almost any distance that I shot it put the shots all in one hole. Next I bought a Premier II with the Inch and a Half groups at 50 yards accuracy guarantee option and it shot even smaller one hole groups, and over time I realized that all the custom Colts, as much as I loved them, were just a waste of money. I sold all my Colts and went on a Baer buying spree that still lasts today. There are a few gunsmiths that can equal the performance of a Les Baer but it will be at a much higher cost. Colt has made some improvement in quality recently but they are still very sloppy and loose, and even more nauseating they are built by the sorry ass Obama loving Auto Workers Union. Your Kimber in my opinion is a step up from a Colt whose guns may be made from the best quality material, but Kimber puts them together tighter and better so you will get better accuracy from a Kimber. Baer completely controls the size and tolerences of all manufactured parts so as to get the tightest fit with the least amount of hand fitting to keep the price as low as possible and he has done this to an art. If your heart will be the happiest with a higher quality product and if your budget can afford to step up you owe it to yourself to give a Les Baer a try. Cosmetically you may find that Baer falls behind Wilson and Ed Brown but in the reliability and accuracy arena he is nearly unbeatable. Nighthawks are drastically over priced for what you get, their quality took a dive when Ron Phillips left them. Near perfection, in this life, is hard to find, but it is what you can expect from Baer, Wilson or Ed Brown. If I had to settle for only one gun in my life, it would be my Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special with the Inch and a half guarantee, it is with me at all times and I would bet my life on it anywhere anytime. I have 9 Baers 2 Wilsons, 1 NightHawk and 1 Ed Brown, they are all fabulous pistols and warm my heart completely and it feels good. These words are only my opinion from my experience for the last 25 years. Good luck on your quest.

briney11
October 20, 2010, 02:08 PM
I am really wanting a "mil spec" 1911. I can't afford a Remington Rand so I am wanting one that looks and functions the same. My Kimber is a great shooter but I want to add his mil spec brother to the collection. And Knighthawk, I would LOVE a Les Baer, but I just don't have the funds right now. In fact, if I ever get the funds, or close to it, I will be selling my custom II to get one.

JTQ
October 20, 2010, 06:33 PM
If you are looking for the WW II GI look, the most authentic looking 1911a1 type pistol, in my opinion is the Auto Ordnance. They are relatively inexpensive and made in the US.

Here are a couple of reviews you may enjoy.

From the Six Gun Journal blog
http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/aoww2.html

M1911.org e-zine
http://ezine.m1911.org/AO1911A1.htm

mljdeckard
October 21, 2010, 03:41 AM
I had an Auto Ordnance that was terrible, but it was a long time ago. I haven't handled one recently. My dad recently bough a SA Mil-Spec, and we both like it very much.

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