Security/Service/Speed Six spring kit?


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kludge
October 15, 2010, 02:36 PM
I've been thinking about getting a spring kit for my 'Six. I want a lighter trigger pull.

I am seeing mixed reviews on whether the kit helps or not. What say ye?

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Jamie B
October 15, 2010, 09:30 PM
I have reduced hammer springs in both my Security Six and my SP101.

They are worth the trouble.

Be careful in not going too light with these.

I do not recommend changing to a lighter trigger spring.

All of mine are Wolff springs.

Jamie

RugRev
October 15, 2010, 10:41 PM
Follow Jamie's advice. Don't go too light or you may get fail to fires.
Using a lighter trigger return spring usually requires doing some work
on the parts in the trigger guard to get a satisfactory reset i.e. honing.
Both Wolff and Bullseye make spring kits for the Six Series.

If one wants a "top notch action job" this will also require honing various
internal parts to achieve smoothness which will also reduce the trigger
pull a pound or so. Elsewhere on the 'net there are guides available
on how to do this from Iowegan who is a retired gunsmith.

Confederate
October 15, 2010, 11:28 PM
I bought one for my Ruger Security-Six and was disappointed to find it was longer than the one I had. I ended up using the trigger spring and not the hammer spring.

This was a Wolff spring kit and I was disappointed. Although the action was a bit lighter, the trigger spring was not as beefy and so there was a price.

For my other guns, I'll pass.

Jamie B
October 16, 2010, 04:43 AM
I bought one for my Ruger Security-Six and was disappointed to find it was longer than the one I had.
Then you had the wrong spring, and should not have installed it.

PzGren
October 16, 2010, 11:20 AM
An action job entails more than changing a few springs to lighter weights. There is a dude on the Ruger forums that will let you download his book of wisdom if you become a member there. I had already figured it out the hard way before but it is well worth it!

RugRev
October 16, 2010, 02:39 PM
PZGren refers to Iowegan over at Rugerforum.net. He now sells manuals on various Ruger
firearms:

http://rugerforum.net/miscellaneous/26246-new-iowegan-gun-guides.html

Formerly, they were free but I gather he ran into some copyright problems
with pictures and such so he now has printed them up with new and
better pictures and more information than was formerly included.

As PzGren notes the action job is more than a spring kit. Before having
one done (by a gunsmith) get an understanding up front what he intends
to do as some are more thorough than others and some just change springs.
If nothing else the gun guide gives you the knowledge before talking to
the gunsmith if you don't do it yourself.

357 Terms
October 16, 2010, 07:24 PM
Got the Wolff kit also. Hammer spring was longer but works fine. I did notice that the trigger spring wasn't nearly as robust. Minimal difference in trigger pull.

Jamie B
October 17, 2010, 02:11 PM
Minimal difference in trigger pull.
Nope. It depends upon the weight of the hammer spring used.

RugRev
October 17, 2010, 03:04 PM
I have a SP-101 that has had both the action tuned and with which I have played with springs. Tuning or smoothing the action will reduce the double action trigger pull at most about 1.5 to 2 lbs. The gun started stock with a 14 lb double action. I had it converted to DAO so can't comment on single. By playing with springs (Wolff) I got the double action down to 8.4 lbs as measured using a Chatillon recording trigger pull gauge. This used the 8 lb trigger return and 9 lb mainspring. Since then, to add a little bit to reliability I have increased the mainspring to 10 lbs. This gives about a 9 lb pull. Thus, springs can have a result. Without smoothing the internals heavier springs are required to get reliability. Going to a 12 lb mainspring will reduce double action somewhat but due to leverage in the gun the effect will be probably less than 1.5 lbs.

greyling22
October 17, 2010, 11:51 PM
I had a gunsmith polish up a well used security 6 and drop in wolff springs. I didn't notice much difference. I dropped in a wolff spring kit on an old smith 686 and was amazed at the difference.

BLACKHAWKNJ
October 18, 2010, 01:38 AM
The trigger pull in my stainless Security Six was WAAY too heavy. I put in a Traper or Bullseye Spring kit (forget which). BIG improvement.

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