Opinion on Ruger SR40?


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Wonderclam
October 15, 2010, 04:53 PM
Thinking of getting this. I was going to get the SR9, but I prefer the .40 cal round.

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DenaliPark
October 15, 2010, 05:05 PM
Why not just purchase the real thing? Get yourself a Glock, or perhaps an M&P.

highorder
October 15, 2010, 05:13 PM
Why not just purchase the real thing? :rolleyes:
Are Ruger products not real?...

I love my M&P, but I also have nothing but good things to say about the SR9.

DenaliPark, do you have any experience with the SR9/40? If not, why comment.

jkulysses
October 15, 2010, 05:17 PM
If they are using the same trigger as the SR9c now in the SR9 and SR40 then they are a great American made Glock alternative with a manual safety that a lot of people want. I own a Glock so I'm not being bias but the Ruger's are very nice and I like American made products. I have not even seen the SR40 in person though so I have no experience with it at all.

Stasher1
October 15, 2010, 05:22 PM
Why not just purchase the real thing? Get yourself a Glock, or perhaps an M&P.
Maybe the OP is looking for something with better ergonomics than this...
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/potato.jpg

;)

Lateck
October 15, 2010, 05:25 PM
I own a SR9c and the new SR40 is now one my list for my next hand gun!
As for the real thing... I traded my Glock 22 for a SIG 226 (.40S&W)

I personally prefer the feel of Rugers & Sigs over Glocks or M&P. :neener:


Lateck,

DenaliPark
October 15, 2010, 06:43 PM
Maybe the OP is looking for something with better ergonomics than this...

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/potato.jpg

;)
Better ergonomics? The Glock has absolutely no extraneous controls, erogonomically it's perfect, unlike the Ruger, it's mechanism is entirely self-contained and has never been the subject of an ongoing recall. Trying to compare a Ruger with a Glock is very much like comparing a Yugo with a BMW, you're much better off comparing the SR9 with a Hi-point, as their method of production is quite similar...:)

ohwell
October 15, 2010, 06:48 PM
I tried to convince myself to buy a glock once but it felt like I was grabbing a 2x4 and it may very well be true there have been no glock recalls I suppose most people just throw them away like a warn out set of batteries when the chambers go Kaboom.

Kymasabe
October 15, 2010, 06:50 PM
Don't pay any attention to Denali. He's got Ruger issues from some P345's he's owned. He hates them, but for some strange reason can't stop buying them.
So, Glocks, hate them, don't point naturally for me. My Ruger SR9c has been a great gun, reliable, accurate. I was seriously looking at the M&P9c but didn't have the extra $100-$150 for the Smith. Went with the Ruger instead and have been very happy with it. Hopefully, the new SR40 uses the SR9c trigger. If so, should be a decent gun for the money.

Wonderclam
October 15, 2010, 07:08 PM
I don't really like Glocks. They seem to have no "personality" to them. Also, doesn't the Ruger P95 beat Glock 17 in terms of durability?

DenaliPark
October 15, 2010, 07:15 PM
I don't really like Glocks. They seem to have no "personality" to them. Also, doesn't the Ruger P95 beat Glock 17 in terms of durability?
I have to laugh, not a single major(any?)LEA issues, or approves for carry a Ruger centerfire pistol! Why do you suppose that is? :)

highorder
October 15, 2010, 07:45 PM
I have to laugh, not a single major(any?)LEA issues, or approves for carry a Ruger centerfire pistol!
That's just wrong. Dozens of departments issue Ruger pistols.

Comparing Ruger to HiPoint? You do have issues.

ichiban
October 15, 2010, 08:57 PM
I have to laugh, not a single major(any?)LEA issues, or approves for carry a Ruger centerfire pistol! Why do you suppose that is? :)
Most department simply buy what the big guys buy and whatever they can get the best deal on. Glock is very good at marketing to LE departments. Buying a gun based on what the police use is like buying a car based on what the rental companies buy.

As to the SR40 - I'm putting it on my list but I'll wait for at least six months to get field reports. I had one of the original SR9s and really liked it (even the thumb safety) but thought they screwed up the trigger with the recall. I understand that they have improved the trigger since but have not had a chance to handle one. Even so, I'll probably drop a Ghost trigger in it once/if I do get one.

Prion
October 15, 2010, 09:03 PM
Buying a gun based on what the police use is like buying a car based on what the rental companies buy
That's a very good analogy.

Still don't like Ruger, though!

Kymasabe
October 15, 2010, 09:04 PM
I've seen Rugers locally on the hips of police officers. What's the .45cal they have beside the P345? The P90? I spoke with one of the cops I saw carrying the Ruger and he said it was department issue, was .45cal, accurate and reliable. He seemed very happy with his Ruger.

jimmyraythomason
October 15, 2010, 09:12 PM
I have to laugh, not a single major(any?)LEA issues, or approves for carry a Ruger centerfire pistol!I've seen Rugers locally on the hips of police officers. What's the .45cal they have beside the P345? The P90? I spoke with one of the cops I saw carrying the Ruger and he said it was department issue, was .45cal, accurate and reliable. He seemed very happy with his Ruger. I'd say this contradicts that.

9mmforMe
October 15, 2010, 09:34 PM
Try this link Denali: http://www.gunweek.com/2005/feature0820.html

The Wiry Irishman
October 15, 2010, 10:42 PM
Better ergonomics? The Glock has absolutely no extraneous controls, erogonomically it's perfect,

What? There's a lot more to ergonomics than controls. Grip shape, trigger reach, size, among many, many others. A lot of people don't like the grip angle, square grip feel, or grip hump of the Glock. There can be no universally perfect ergonomic gun because people vary too much. Claiming otherwise is silly. Just because it works for you doesn't mean it will work for anyone else.

Lar1911
October 15, 2010, 11:03 PM
I own the SR9, I like the feel of it. I use to own a Glock 22 in 40S&W, but I didnt like the feel of it.

I may trade the SR9 for the SR40. Or keep both

dcarch
October 15, 2010, 11:17 PM
Massad Ayoob carries the P345 on duty his duty belt.
Need I say more?

Mike J
October 15, 2010, 11:27 PM
I don't have any experience with the SR series guns but thought you might like to read this- http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SR40.htm

I'm thinking I want to hold out for the SR40c.

Hanzo581
October 15, 2010, 11:30 PM
The Glock has absolutely no extraneous controls, erogonomically it's perfect

I would suggest you learn what the definition of ergonomic is before you say something asinine like this, it just makes you look bad.

DenaliPark
October 15, 2010, 11:40 PM
That's just wrong. Dozens of departments issue Ruger pistols.

Comparing Ruger to HiPoint? You do have issues.
Cite one major LEA that issues a Ruger pistol, one? :)

Quoheleth
October 15, 2010, 11:44 PM
Think Ruger'll try for a .45 model of this next? I really, really like my 9mm.

Q

DenaliPark
October 15, 2010, 11:59 PM
Most department simply buy what the big guys buy and whatever they can get the best deal on. Glock is very good at marketing to LE departments. Buying a gun based on what the police use is like buying a car based on what the rental companies buy.

As to the SR40 - I'm putting it on my list but I'll wait for at least six months to get field reports. I had one of the original SR9s and really liked it (even the thumb safety) but thought they screwed up the trigger with the recall. I understand that they have improved the trigger since but have not had a chance to handle one. Even so, I'll probably drop a Ghost trigger in it once/if I do get one.
Nonsense, if that was true, every cop in America would be issued a pair of Ruger's, in fact Ruger's price point is so low as it is, nobody could hope to compete with them in the bidding process, this is just a fact!
Glock as an import, couldn't come close to matching their price point, likely Ruger could sell SR9's for under a hundred bucks and be profitable...The only cops carrying a Ruger are dirt poor rural deputy sheriffs....

DenaliPark
October 16, 2010, 12:08 AM
I would suggest you learn what the definition of ergonomic is before you say something asinine like this, it just makes you look bad.
LMAO....really...

Mags
October 16, 2010, 12:10 AM
Yes really. You seem to respond with emotions tied to brand x and very little facts.

benzy2
October 16, 2010, 12:12 AM
Denalipark, please leave. Please? You do nothing but spout. You have no first hand experience of the SR40 to talk about, yet you endlessly bash Ruger at any point possible. We get it. You hate them. Great. Now stop talking. We heard you. So please, just shut up. You troll endlessly. It's annoying and pathetic. So again, we get it, you hate Ruger. You have nothing left of merit to say in this thread. When you have a range report about the SR40, come back and talk about it. Until then just stop.

Hanzo581
October 16, 2010, 12:13 AM
LMAO....really...
Yes, really.

But at any rate, I saw your other Ruger bashing thread, if you dislike them, why not just stay away from them and threads involving them? If the guy wanted a Glock this thread would be titled "Opinion on Glock?".

Carter
October 16, 2010, 12:27 AM
I love my SR9c. Almost tempted to buy the SR40, but I'm working on getting a pistol that isn't striker fired right now.

I'll probably end up with one at some point though.

It may not be that popular with the glock fanboys or Ruger bashers, but its one heck of a gun.

DenaliPark
October 16, 2010, 12:55 AM
Because he asked for opinions, and I offered mine, I have enormous experience with Ruger pistols, they ain't all bad, it's just that they very definitely ain't all that good either!
The SR40 I handled had the same crappy trigger that the SR9 does, It's the same pistol, just chambered in .40, price is just $389.00. For a hundred bucks more he can get himself a Glock or an M&P in .40, neither has ever been recalled, ever....

Art Eatman
October 16, 2010, 01:01 AM
The best semi-auto pistol is whichever one you can use to most reliably hit your intended target. YOU, nobody else. And thus nobody else's opinion means doodly-squat, 'cause they ain't you.

Only you as an individual knows which variety best fits your hand. Only you as an individual knows which variety allows YOU the quickest pickup of the sights. And all those other little variables.

I've yet to find a reasonably well-made semi-auto pistol which did not function reliably for me if it had been well maintained and properly lubricated.

Sorry, but I give little credibility to those who think any single brand or model is "the best" of them all. About the only semi-auto I haven't messed with, some, is the Sig. (I don't include the el-cheapos.) The range is from the Lilliput to the Desert Eagle. Bought my first Colt Woodsman, new @ $35, in the summer of 1950. Did gunshow tables for thirty years. Shot IPSC from 1981-1984. Figure I know a wee skosh about pistols...

See what happens when a bunch of snark gets somebody to doing a "Report this post"? Some Olde Phart comes out of the woodwork, grumping. :D So quit the snarky childishness. This is The High Road, not a day nursery.

contender
October 16, 2010, 03:17 AM
in response to the question about a major dept issuing rugers.....i can say the the Federal Bureau of Prisons did issue i believe ruger p89's and i remembered seeing them in their holsters from time to time.....don't know if they still do.

Also have read that the Wisconsin State Police issued a ruger p89......up until 2004.

Here is a link to world inventory of weapons which also breaks it down to State and city agencies............i ain't gonna hunt thru them all, but was able to verify that Wisconsin did issue rugers at some point.

have not a clue if the site information is still current or not.
http://sites.google.com/site/worldinventory/

you can also check time periods for issued weapons by reporting cities/counties by State


not a handgun, but the TX dept of corrections have ruger 77's in 223 as issue.

as far as the most popular weapon i see in duty holsters, it is the glock followed by sig in my area......xd's are coming on strong especially by officer individal purchases.

Glock has indeed earned its current market share by price point. durability, and simplicity....but....they are gonna get their lunch ate if they don't address the bad ergonomics...........ergonomics that SR series ruger, springfield xd, and s&w m&p HAVE addressed..

i don't think the glock gen 4's are the answer.

I hate glocks and freely admit it.........but i do appreciate their level of performance which in turn forces everyone else to try to build a better design to compete........in the end, we all win.

Kingofthehill
October 16, 2010, 11:56 AM
The SR40 I handled had the same crappy trigger that the SR9 does, It's the same pistol, just chambered in .40, price is just $389.00. For a hundred bucks more he can get himself a Glock or an M&P in .40, neither has ever been recalled, ever....
Are you sure about that?

a quick search on Google proves otherwise

NOTHING is perfect. Stop with your ruger hate. Its annoying....
Glock has determined many of the frames manufactured between June '01 and June '02 (I believe) were machined incorrrectly and could fail. ALL models from EAAxxxUS to EZZxxxUS are part of the recall.
The recall was initiated by the company, Smith and Wesson and was started because of problems with the triggers on the guns.

schmeky
October 16, 2010, 02:59 PM
So quit the snarky childishness. This is The High Road, not a day nursery

;) :rolleyes: :p

BushyGuy
October 16, 2010, 03:24 PM
I have the SR9 over a year now ,its the best pistol i ever held in my hands! for those who bash Ruger need to get a life ,cuz they dont know what they are talking about.

SR40 seems promising, Rugers been around alot longer then Glock , so they know how to make a great pistol or correct the mistakes. If you want the SR40 buy it! you wont be disappointed they do make durable and accurate pistols.

Most LEo want the most expensive cuz they think "You get what u pay for" is the only answer, Ruger makes their pistols affordable so people can buy them doesnt mean they are Hi-Point clones.

I love Rugers and i will continue to buy them over the other brands, i am a cheapskate and i always make sure i get my moneys worth! :neener:

jdh
October 16, 2010, 04:01 PM
Cite one major LEA that issues a Ruger pistol, one?

Federal Bureau of (no, not investigation) Prisons. A very large agency I might add.

9mmforMe
October 16, 2010, 06:53 PM
Welcome to THR Vaherder...what type of malfunction did you have with that Glock that it put you in the hospital?

To the OP: Go with what feels good to you. I have read mixed reviews about the SRs but Ruger is an excellent company to deal with. I spoke with a tech there just last week re: my P95 not going into battery after reassembling the gun...his advice was right on and he was very polite and friendly...problem resolved. Just put another 150 rounds through it and not one problem. I will be getting another P95 in stainless when I can afford it, without hesitation.

9mmepiphany
October 17, 2010, 02:10 AM
this thread is requiring more attention then it should.

If you can't just address the OP's question without commenting on other members, the next time I have to look in on this thread will be to close it

DenaliPark
October 17, 2010, 01:18 PM
Federal Bureau of (no, not investigation) Prisons. A very large agency I might add.
Cite?????? Besides they don't issue Ruger pistols, they issue mini-14's...

vaherder
October 17, 2010, 01:49 PM
Didn't go boom. I had cleaned and serviced the 17 but it decided to act up at the wrong time. My normal carry at the time was either and HK Mk 21 or Sig. Contingencies prevented me from using my preference. Got hit by a Fiat.
Suffered a couple cracked ribs. Have been hurt worse by sheep.

To the OP if the gun fits and works for you buy it. Opinions are like _____, everyone has one. SR is a nice gun. Try before you buy.

Denali NCIS SAs used to carry Ruger revolvers. The TV NCIS is about as real as a porn star is to your wife. NCIS did not get arrest authority until the early 2000.

Vaherder

RIP Beav's mom

MAKster
October 17, 2010, 02:34 PM
Here's proof that the Federal Bureau of Prisons uses Ruger pistols. 9mm, double action only, model KP95s.
http://www.ruger.com/corporate/news/2008-03-27.html

Hanzo581
October 17, 2010, 04:04 PM
So now sales numbers dictate ergonomics? I guess I learn something new every day.

redbeardsong
October 17, 2010, 04:25 PM
Sorry to derail this conversation, but my SR9c has been flawless for 700+ rounds, shoots great, and fits my hand better than a G26 or G19. The trigger is great as well. I suspect the SR40 will be worth considering.

jdh
October 17, 2010, 04:57 PM
Here's proof that the Federal Bureau of Prisons uses Ruger pistols. 9mm, double action only, model KP95s.
http://www.ruger.com/corporate/news/2008-03-27.html

And all I was going to use was the fact I just retired from the agency having been issued a P89DAO for 15 of those 20 years and the last 10 years as a firearms instructor teaching the use of the Rugers. But that would have been discounted as anecdotal I'm sure.

The Wiry Irishman
October 17, 2010, 05:20 PM
In reference to the OP, Ruger has had a reputation lately of buggy initial market introductions. However, they also have a reputation for making things right. If you like the feel of the gun, I wouldn't feel bad picking one up. If there is something wrong with it (doubtful, since there's so little involved in moving a 9mm platform to .40) it will get fixed in quick order.

Phil W
October 17, 2010, 05:33 PM
I own a SR9 and enjoyed shooting it. It's reliable and the wife loves it. However...I would be hesitant to purchase a 40 S&W based on a 9mm frame. Just my opinion.

Jorg Nysgerrig
October 17, 2010, 05:38 PM
I still don't understand why people so vehemently defend and promote something that is nothing more than a mass-produced consumer item in which they have no stake in the design or manufacturing thereof. It's as though their own satisfaction with said item is solely derived from the opinion others hold of that item and any deviance must be attacked to affirm that position.

In other words, this thread isn't about a Glock fetish. It's about opinions of the SR40. Let's get back to that.

Johnny Guest
October 17, 2010, 05:40 PM
A moderator warning was posted several hours ago: this thread is requiring more attention then it should.

If you can't just address the OP's question without commenting on other members, the next time I have to look in on this thread will be to close it The Original Poster's question has now been throughly addressed. Early on, however, a severe case of THREAD VEER was introduced, and depite efforts by several, the thread just won't stay on track.

1. For those who tried to stick with the topic, thanks.
2. For those who ignored the initial topic, for their own purposes, take this as a warning. A repeat of this situation elsewhere will result in Staffers regretfully taking some stringent action.

For now, though, this thread is over and done.

Johnny

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