North Carolina FFL's over-priced?


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Der Stro
October 17, 2010, 03:27 PM
Hello all,

While trying to shop for an FFL in NC for a transfer, the cheapest one I found was $30! Is this the norm in the state, or should I do more digging? I remember in Pennsylvania the going rate for a transfer was around $10.

Also, does anyone have a resource (list) of FFLs? I tried both googling and searching the forums, but didn't come up with much.

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Carter
October 17, 2010, 03:38 PM
Yeah seems about normal. Hyatt in Charlotte charges atleast twice that, probably 3 times more.

My local shop charges $30. I just buy from them though, never ordered a firearm off the internet.

wrs840
October 17, 2010, 03:59 PM
My local (Iredell / Alexander Co.) FFLs that I use, both home-shop and Independent storefronts, all charge $25 for transfers.

Les

jad0110
October 17, 2010, 04:03 PM
The cheapest I've ever come upon is $25. Most run around $30 - $50 in NC. I've seen one as high as $65.

dogtown tom
October 17, 2010, 04:04 PM
http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/DealerNetwork.aspx

Mac's Precision
October 17, 2010, 04:10 PM
That is about normal.

Around here most shops are in line with what I charge

$25 for rifles and handguns with Carry permit.

$35 for Handguns without carry permit.

Cheers
Mac.

Hanzo581
October 17, 2010, 04:13 PM
Yeah that seems like a pretty normal price.

wrs840
October 17, 2010, 04:53 PM
$25 for rifles and handguns with Carry permit.

$35 for Handguns without carry permit.

Seems like a good incentive for folks to get a carry permit. If that's part of your intention, good on you!

Les

omegaflame
October 18, 2010, 01:21 AM
California averages $125 for an FFL transfer

And then you have 10% sales tax on the price of the gun.

kingpin008
October 18, 2010, 03:18 AM
California averages $125 for an FFL transfer

And then you have 10% sales tax on the price of the gun.

Good Gawd - I know Cali has some jacked-up & complicated gun laws, but that's obscene. :barf:

Bubbles
October 18, 2010, 07:58 AM
Courtesty of the BATFE - Nationwide List of All FFL's (http://www.atf.gov/about/foia/ffl-list.html)
(trust me, you want the XL file not the text file)

woodsoup
October 18, 2010, 10:11 AM
Ozark guns, here in Gastonia only charges $15.00. :what::neener::what::neener:

youngda9
October 18, 2010, 10:24 AM
My FFL charges $25, $30 seems reasonable.

pro2
October 18, 2010, 10:31 AM
What is worse is all the FFL's who refuse to receive firearms from non-FFL. I actually had as FFL send a rifle back to shipper without notifying me, because a hand inked license was not included in the box. Apparently, the FFL that was e-mailed to him "could have been faked."

Then there are the places that charge "X" + percentage of the firearm value.

I will NEVER spend a dime in an establishment that will not receive a firearm from a private party, or decides a transfer fee based upon the value of firearm. They make up their own rules, I choose where to spend my $$$. No big deal.

With some digging, you may find an establishment that has common sense and charges reasonable fees... but they are becoming harder and harder to find. $30 is at the upper end of reasonable. If you are a veteran, currently serving, or LEO, be sure to let the FFL know. You will likely receive a well earned discount.

MikeNice
October 18, 2010, 12:31 PM
The two closest to me Charge $50 and $60 respectively. So, $30 isn't bad at all.

mgkdrgn
October 18, 2010, 04:44 PM
Apparently, the FFL that was e-mailed to him "could have been faked."
And it could have been.

And the -first- time he gets burned by something like that with the BATFE it will, at the very least cost him is license/business. It could also cost him fines. jail time, and a felony conviction.

Gee ... I can't think of a single reason why he wouldn't be will to risk that for $30.

pro2
October 18, 2010, 05:08 PM
mgkdrgn, your joking, right?

First of all, IT IS WAS NOT AGAINST THE LAW FOR A CIVILIAN TO SHIP A RIFLE AN FFL HOLDER (at least not in any of the states where I resided).

Second, even if the FFL requires the firearm to be shipped from another FFL, it takes 20 seconds to check the license on the BATFE website. A hand inked license does not prove that the license itself has not been revoked.

As a non-FFL holder, before I ship a firearm to an FFL, I check the e-mailed license against the BATFE website. If the name, address jive and the license has not expired, I ship. That is why the BATFE website exists.

What is that so difficult, and where is the risk???

Like I stated before, an establishment which makes up their own rules which retard my ability to purchase a firearm, or attempts to rip me off, I WILL NOT receive a dime from me. There are plenty of honest FFL holders with common sense who would be HAPPY to receive my patronage.

hawkeye10
October 18, 2010, 05:15 PM
:) My FFL charges $20 for transfer and there is a $10 back ground check. Not bad. Don

Enachos
October 18, 2010, 05:34 PM
Here in Salisbury and throughout the concord/kannapolis area there are FFL's that charge between $15-$20... not too bad IMO.

c5_nc
October 18, 2010, 09:55 PM
Use the gunbroker list. You didn't post your location and its about a 8hr drive from one end of our state to the next. In eastern NC I used a home based dealer that charges $10. It was free up until a couple years ago, when they had to start making long distance calls on some of the messy transfers. Often pawn shops charge reasonable fees. I checked with 6-7 local dealers and the transfers ranged from $10-25.

MrWesson
October 19, 2010, 12:40 AM
In tallahassee they were around $15.

In Fort Lauderdale its around $30.

Adam5
October 20, 2010, 02:33 AM
There's one just North of Atlanta that doesn't charge anything for incoming transfers.

It has worked out well for them Their customers appreciate it and tend to spend more than they would pay for a transfer on extra ammo or accessories.

wrs840
October 20, 2010, 10:10 AM
...What is that so difficult, and where is the risk???

Like I stated before, an establishment which makes up their own rules which retard my ability to purchase a firearm, or attempts to rip me off, I WILL NOT receive a dime from me. There are plenty of honest FFL holders with common sense who would be HAPPY to receive my patronage.

Seems to me, an independent business has it fully within their prerogative to transfer only pink muskets with surrey-fringe if they so chose, so long as they're not violating the race/creed/color/etc. laws. Why do you think the "owe" you a service delivered in the fashion you imagine? Seems like an odd way of understanding the nature of voluntary exchange and the relationship between you and a business. Correct me if I'm wrong, but having an FFL doesn' require the holder to do transfers for you, just like having a CWP doesn't compel one to carry.

Les

pro2
October 20, 2010, 10:44 AM
Seems to me, an independent business has it fully within their prerogative to transfer only pink muskets with surrey-fringe if they so chose, so long as they're not violating the race/creed/color/etc. laws. Why do you think the "owe" you a service delivered in the fashion you imagine? Seems like an odd way of understanding the nature of voluntary exchange and the relationship between you and a business. Correct me if I'm wrong, but having an FFL doesn' require the holder to do transfers for you, just like having a CWP doesn't compel one to carry.

Les

As I stated before, I also have the right to spend my money elsewhere. I also have the right NOT to recommend the establishment to my peers within the firearms community.

Call me crazy, but I find it counter-intuitive for a seller of firearms to create new rules which further restrict my ability to purchase a firearm as a lawful citizen.

I will support an FFL who supports me as a lawful firearm owner. They will receive my patronage. I will refer my peers to them. It is that simple! ;)

Snowdog
October 20, 2010, 11:23 AM
Around 5 years ago, my local pawn shop charged $10. It jumped to $30 recently, supposedly after he found he was "undercharging" clients.

So it looks like $30 is the norm.

rromeo
October 20, 2010, 11:34 AM
California averages $125 for an FFL transfer

And then you have 10% sales tax on the price of the gun. I wouldn't say average. I know a few places that have high transfer fees to try to discourage them, but most that I know of are in the $50-75 range. Yes, still high, but $25 of that is the California fee.

omegaflame
October 20, 2010, 01:38 PM
Sorry, i was including the $25 fee. The lowest place I know is $75 and they don't charge the sales tax. Everywhere else I've ever checked is minimum $100+$25 fee+tax.

Where is your $50 FFL?

MinnMooney
October 20, 2010, 06:57 PM
Der Stro :

I pay $10 to my FFL holder for the background check/transfer. We have others around here that still charge $30 and many folks use them. Like everything else, some folks shop around - others pay whatever the first guy wants. Lazy or rich, I guess.


from OmegeFlame (post #9) :

California averages $125 for an FFL transfer

And then you have 10% sales tax on the price of the gun.

WOW!! That means that a Savage Edge would cost me $260 + $10 FFL fee or $270 total BUT it would cost you $260 + $125 FFL + $26 tax for a grand total of $411. You'd have to pay an extra 50% just 'cause you live in the great ********** Replublic.

EddieNFL
October 20, 2010, 07:14 PM
I can't hold a grudge against a dealer who charges a high fee or refuses to accept transfers of guns like he sells. It's a bit like taking your own beer to a bar.

rromeo
October 21, 2010, 09:42 AM
Sorry, i was including the $25 fee. The lowest place I know is $75 and they don't charge the sales tax. Everywhere else I've ever checked is minimum $100+$25 fee+tax.

Where is your $50 FFL? Well, they are required to cllect the tax if it's a new firearm. Gunbroker has a list of FFLs and their fees. Where are you? If Sacramento is at all near to you, Rob at Golden State Tactical is great. I just looked, and he's up to $60. $35 + the state's $25.

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