CZ P-06 .40 Caliber Recoil Solution


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CZF
October 18, 2010, 07:15 PM
I've been having some recoil control problems with my new P-06 for a couple of months now.
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The factory 165 and 180s in FMJ form seem all right, but much more than a P-01.
Switching over to Double Tap Ammo becomes a real task for me.
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The ammo is hot and the P-06 is much lighter than my Witness 10mm or my two .40
caliber CZs of old.
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Seeking the advice of an old friend who has garnered a great reputation for his products
in our industry.

THIS arrived on Saturday.
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Myself, having used the Bedair Machine Work's stainless steel guide rods before.
Know that they really do 3 things well.

1. Add a sturdier platform for your CZs recoil spring.
Note:
After 20 years of messing with CZs.
I've learned that while the stock guide rods are mostly plastic, or of a shorter variety in steel.

Most people don't trust the plastic versions and are soon looking to replace such with that they think (as do I) with a superior guide rod.

2. The heavier Bedair Rod adds weight to your gun and gives it a muzzle heavy feel.
Some old timers have told me that you know when you have a good handgun, when it's
muzzle heavy.

I don't know what thruth there is in that statement, but you can feel your gun being heavier in front, if not exactly the muzzle.

3. Reduced Recoil and Improved Accuracy..

Maybe not 100% of the time, but in my case with each gun I've installed a Bedair rod in.

I get reduced muzzle climb/recoil and a result of improved accuracy.

Using my Double Tap 9mm +P and Cor-Bon ammo in a Bedair equipped gun is like shooting hardball in a normal CZ... or at least thats what it feels like.

I've also found that I'm much more accurate with the exact same load after installing a Bedair rod.
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So, with those attributes listed..
My hope is that I can tame my .40's snappy recoil some.
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I don't know if it will hurt it to run with the stock spring, and some CZ gurus
might tell you.

My experience with the Bedair Rods from Steve (in the past) have been very positive.

The dimple that he puts on his rods seem to keep the rod from shifting and eventually
digging on your gun.
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This will be my 6th rod from him over the past 5 years or so.

No problems to report and I've never heard of any from the people that I've sold guns to with his rods installed.

He is also well know in the SIG and Beretta communities for his guide rods.
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Should you need some recoil control or not fully trust the factory rod in your gun.

I'm sure that he has is a solution for you.
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Steve's website calls his products:

"Custom Stainless Steel Guide / Recoil Rods"

Whether for a guide rod update or recoil control, or
accuracy requirements..
I call them simply fantastic!
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More information:

http://www.guiderod.com
http://www.doubletapammo.com
http://www.crimsontrace.com
http://www.cz-usa.com

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Wishoot
October 18, 2010, 07:20 PM
Thanks! I've been considering replacing the stock plastic rod on my 75B since I got it a couple of years ago. I've never had a problem with it, I just don't like the idea of plastic part in something I use to protect me and my family.

vallist
October 19, 2010, 07:23 AM
http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=19816.0
(CZ has always said that steel guide rods should not be used in the alloy-framed compact guns)

CZF
October 19, 2010, 07:18 PM
BY my information:
they are putting in full length rods, but using different recoil springs, even in the Compact framed alloy guns.

Problem is.. there are no set lengths for the springs.

You have to cut a spring down to fit your gun.

Guide rods are like lasers or custom grips..

Use them if you want, there is no law against them.

I've done my research, and so have others that use the
Bedair rods in their guns.

9mmepiphany
October 19, 2010, 11:33 PM
One is free to add any accessories one might wish to their gun and the stainless rods are likely pretty neutral as to damage they might cause...but if CZ warns not to use steel rods in their alloy frames, I'd tend to believe them. Using a not recommended part in a gun would likely void the warranty...unless Bedair is willing to take over warranty sevice for the gun.

It has been my experience that the slight weight increase added by a heavy rod has little effect on muzzle flip or recoil...I've tried them in 1911a, Berettas and Sigs. The stainless steel is nice and the workmanship on these are pretty good too.

I would suggest that changing the grip you are using to one that allows more contact of your support hand to the gun would allow you to manage recoil better for faster followup shots. Just looking at the pictures makes it appear that your support hand is just along for the ride

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