CCI Stinger segmented Hollow Points vs. regular Stinger HP


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stinger 327
October 19, 2010, 12:59 PM
Same velocity in these two bullets except one is suppose to break up into 3 pieces(segmented).
Which is preferred for rodent control, squirrels, rats etc?:confused:
1,640 fps in both rounds.

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mbopp
October 19, 2010, 04:23 PM
The one that's most accurate.

jmorris
October 19, 2010, 04:32 PM
I use CB caps but shots are pellet gun close but I don't want pellet gun sound. CB's are very quite.

rcmodel
October 19, 2010, 05:24 PM
I doubt a rat could tell you the differance after being shot with either one.

rc

stinger 327
October 19, 2010, 05:28 PM
I doubt a rat could tell you the differance after being shot with either one.

rc

:D CCI bullet in .22 LR before used to be called Qwik shot. But this time both are rated same velocity.

Art Eatman
October 19, 2010, 05:59 PM
I shot one rock squirrel with a Quik-Shok three-piece bullet, at about fifteen yards. Surprisingly large exit wound, larger than from any hollowpoint I'd ever used.

stinger 327
October 19, 2010, 06:37 PM
I shot one rock squirrel with a Quik-Shok three-piece bullet, at about fifteen yards. Surprisingly large exit wound, larger than from any hollowpoint I'd ever used.
CCI no longer makes the Quik-Shok round or did they change it to Stinger Segmented Hollow Point?

hardluk1
October 20, 2010, 08:36 PM
I would try diffent brands and shoot what is the most accurate. Squirrel ain't gona no the diffence between cci mini mag hp or wolf M/T . But your groups might. You do want to eat the squirrels right, head shots only.

stinger 327
October 21, 2010, 02:40 AM
I would try diffent brands and shoot what is the most accurate. Squirrel ain't gona no the diffence between cci mini mag hp or wolf M/T . But your groups might. You do want to eat the squirrels right, head shots only.
Good point but I don't want to eat a rodent/pest.

hardluk1
October 21, 2010, 09:36 AM
Then shoot the most accurate in your rifle . Haveing the fastest and miss s*cks.

stinger 327
October 21, 2010, 01:40 PM
What if there is no difference in accuracy and both bullets cost the same price?:confused:

Sky
October 21, 2010, 01:50 PM
Don't want to eat it!!!!????

Picky Picky hahahaheheheh I know a Cajun who would just shake his head!

Uncle Mike
October 21, 2010, 03:10 PM
Good point but I don't want to eat a rodent/pest.

Rodent or pest!!! squirrels are not rodents in my book! They are however delicious,fired up all brown and crispy with squirrel gravy on the side.... you don't know what your missing!

As for the stingers, I'll have to agree with the ' what ever is the most accurate' statement!

When we were kids, we used to cut an X into the top of your run of the mill hollow points with a razor blade, made for a nasty hole!

amd6547
October 21, 2010, 08:37 PM
My Grandfather hunted squirrel for decades with a cheap single shot 22. But he didnt use head shots...that would have ruined his plans for a delicious plate of scrambled eggs with squirrel brains...He used a shoulder shot, and always used regular HV Remington solids.

Uncle Mike
October 21, 2010, 11:57 PM
I love squirrel fried up all nice and crispy, but the brains I just cannot stomach!

I had a Aunt that loved that stuff, she'd peel those little noggins and put them on a cookie sheet at 350 degrees...crack the heads open with a hammer! Yuk!

stinger 327
October 22, 2010, 12:32 AM
Rodent or pest!!! squirrels are not rodents in my book! They are however delicious,fired up all brown and crispy with squirrel gravy on the side.... you don't know what your missing!

As for the stingers, I'll have to agree with the ' what ever is the most accurate' statement!

When we were kids, we used to cut an X into the top of your run of the mill hollow points with a razor blade, made for a nasty hole!
Do you then eat praire dogs?

stevelyn
October 22, 2010, 10:02 AM
CCI no longer makes the Quik-Shok round or did they change it to Stinger Segmented Hollow Point?

The ones i have have the Federal label on the box, but Federal, CCI, Speer, etc are all ATK anyway.

jcollins1007
October 22, 2010, 11:32 AM
I shot a couple of tree-rats with some Remington Yellow Jackets, which are basically hollow-point versions of the vipers, and it made some amazing holes in the poor things. I hit one in the gut and had entrails everywhere.

stinger 327
October 22, 2010, 12:20 PM
I shot a couple of tree-rats with some Remington Yellow Jackets, which are basically hollow-point versions of the vipers, and it made some amazing holes in the poor things. I hit one in the gut and had entrails everywhere.
The Quik-Shok I bought back in 1999 was a red box by CCI. The shell casing on that one was not as long as the Stinger back then unlike today where they are both the same. The segmented Stinger is a gold casing and the the Stinger is the same silver casing.

stinger 327
October 22, 2010, 12:21 PM
I shot a couple of tree-rats with some Remington Yellow Jackets, which are basically hollow-point versions of the vipers, and it made some amazing holes in the poor things. I hit one in the gut and had entrails everywhere.
I have both Vipers and Yellow Jackets too. Isn't the Viper a different shape nose not a HP?

hardluk1
October 22, 2010, 07:19 PM
Stinger ,just how far do you shoot these rodents. 50 yards? What size groups will it shoot. It took me several decades of cci stinger 22 shooting to finally fiquer out even in my old 512P rem that most any match/target grade ammo will shoot groups much tighter at 50yards and beyoud. Most all coon hunters up here shoot fed match or cheap but real accurate wolfM/T for 4 bucks a box. No hp rounds. Even a buddys marlin, the clip feed model 60 will shoot 1" at 50 yards with fed match. Always stingers on the shelves anymore but no good stuff. Oh aguila think has 1700+ fps round if you want the fastest.

stinger 327
October 23, 2010, 01:12 AM
Stinger ,just how far do you shoot these rodents. 50 yards? What size groups will it shoot. It took me several decades of cci stinger 22 shooting to finally fiquer out even in my old 512P rem that most any match/target grade ammo will shoot groups much tighter at 50yards and beyoud. Most all coon hunters up here shoot fed match or cheap but real accurate wolfM/T for 4 bucks a box. No hp rounds. Even a buddys marlin, the clip feed model 60 will shoot 1" at 50 yards with fed match. Always stingers on the shelves anymore but no good stuff. Oh aguila think has 1700+ fps round if you want the fastest.
I have shot both of those Aguilar rounds in HP and solid point. They smell funny when you shoot them. I wonder if they are dirtier than the CCI Stinger rounds?

Uncle Mike
October 23, 2010, 01:24 AM
Do you then eat prairie dogs?

No 'prairie' dog in my neck of the woods, but we do have a nice herd of 'ground hogs, you know, whistle pigs..... I used to eat those, done up right in a crock pot with veggies, they are not bad, but I haven't eaten one in years.

Try some Winchester 'Power Points' 40gr solids or 40gr hollow points, either one does nice, and they are really accurate.

DIM
October 23, 2010, 01:34 AM
I shot gobbler in the spring with one 70 yards neck shot... CCI stinger I recall not sure if it split in one o re more pieces, but that turkey was dead when I walked to him.
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3875/indjuksmall.jpg

788Ham
October 23, 2010, 01:36 AM
No you don't eat prairie dogs! Those flea infested, plague carryin' suckers. Leave them out there for the coyotes and magpies. They are a rodent deluxe!:barf:

stinger 327
October 23, 2010, 01:39 AM
I HAVE no idea what they taste like.

Art Eatman
October 23, 2010, 11:37 AM
Stinger, thousands of people have eaten squirrels for eons. Think for a moment: If they're not small-game animals, why do so many states have seasons and bag limits?

Sure, many of us call them "tree rats". In town, they can indeed be a rat-type problem. But they are indeed edible.

Prairie dogs, OTOH, are not. They're pests, in the eyes of farmers and ranchers. Aside from being much smaller than squirrels, they carry plague. IOW, not enough meat to bother with, and you risk getting bitten by the fleas.

In general, for rabbit-size animals and smaller, use whichever .22 rimfire cartridge gives you the tightest groups. Again, a generality: A lot of these alleged differences among the various options are largely in the eye of the advertiser.

stinger 327
October 23, 2010, 05:34 PM
Stinger, thousands of people have eaten squirrels for eons. Think for a moment: If they're not small-game animals, why do so many states have seasons and bag limits?

Sure, many of us call them "tree rats". In town, they can indeed be a rat-type problem. But they are indeed edible.

Prairie dogs, OTOH, are not. They're pests, in the eyes of farmers and ranchers. Aside from being much smaller than squirrels, they carry plague. IOW, not enough meat to bother with, and you risk getting bitten by the fleas.

In general, for rabbit-size animals and smaller, use whichever .22 rimfire cartridge gives you the tightest groups. Again, a generality: A lot of these alleged differences among the various options are largely in the eye of the advertiser.
Thanks for the info.

engineerbrian
October 23, 2010, 06:21 PM
the segmented hollow points are great. I had to adjust the scope on my 10/22 in order for them to zero at at 50 yds compared to stingers, but all of the ground hogs i killed with them drop in thier tracks

stinger 327
October 23, 2010, 06:23 PM
the segmented hollow points are great. I had to adjust the scope on my 10/22 in order for them to zero at at 50 yds compared to stingers, but all of the ground hogs i killed with them drop in thier tracks
So you do notice a difference in performance between both Stingers? Segmented does more damage? Both are of the same weight and design but yet calls for different sighting specs?

stinger 327
October 23, 2010, 06:25 PM
There is one thing though I notice that it is much more difficult to find the Stinger Segmented HP and easier to find the Stinger HP. I have never seen both of them sold on a store shelf side by side.:confused:

engineerbrian
October 24, 2010, 02:53 PM
So you do notice a difference in performance between both Stingers? Segmented does more damage? Both are of the same weight and design but yet calls for different sighting specs?

IMO, i think the plain old stingers are much more accurate, but i can tell a night and day difference in the stopping power on small game. the segmented HP is by far more destructive than the stinger

stinger 327
October 24, 2010, 04:27 PM
IMO, i think the plain old stingers are much more accurate, but i can tell a night and day difference in the stopping power on small game. the segmented HP is by far more destructive than the stinger
that's exactly what I wanted to know. So the segmented does more damage.

ms6852
October 25, 2010, 01:23 AM
I shot gobbler in the spring with one 70 yards neck shot... CCI stinger I recall not sure if it split in one o re more pieces, but that turkey was dead when I walked to him.
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3875/indjuksmall.jpg
Wish they let hunt gobbler with a 22 here in Texas, nice gobbler.

stinger 327
October 25, 2010, 03:13 AM
Wish they let hunt gobbler with a 22 here in Texas, nice gobbler.
So you shot that goobly gobbler with a segmented Stinger HP? Or a regular Stinger HP?

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