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combatantr2
October 20, 2010, 06:03 PM
run with any bullet type or shape, JHP, wadcutter, etc., and with all brands?
Or are we asking a lot?

(This thread applies to all formats, 1911s, glocks, XD, M&P, etc.)

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TH3180
October 20, 2010, 06:06 PM
I guess I haven't thought about that. Yes I am new to the shooting world. I am very intrested to hear what some of the vets have to say about this.

postalnut25
October 20, 2010, 06:13 PM
Provided a round meets all the specifications for a certain caliber, any gun in that caliber should be able to fire that round.

When brass isn't sized properly, the overall length is to long, et cetera, that is when a gun shouldn't be able to fire a round.

Joe Demko
October 20, 2010, 06:25 PM
That's asking rather a lot. A gun should run with any ammo that is within the specs of the gun's design. Expecting it to function with any possible load and any possible bullet shape in any possible combination is just unrealistic.

9mmepiphany
October 20, 2010, 07:12 PM
It is asking a bit much...because of the wide variety of ammo available on the market...on the other side of the coin, I've had a .45ACP pistol that would feed empty casings and yet not feed Remington Golden Sabre JHP rounds.

Bullet shape and overall length has a lot to do with the reliability of a gun's feeding. The closer to the original designed profile of the round, the better your chances.

With a semi-auto pistol, the case length and amount of crimp applied when loaded make a large difference too

Shadow 7D
October 20, 2010, 08:03 PM
Yes, an Ideal gun should, but this is the real world, so that isn't going to be the case, look at .22s some high end guns run great on bulk box stuff, and others only feed match grade.

Then you have .32APC, a number of guns are know to rimlock with shorter HP, So like 9MMepi said, its all depends on the gun and round, looser tolerances can mean more reliability, but a cost.

mikecu
October 20, 2010, 08:08 PM
Glocks do that, like they should.

76shuvlinoff
October 20, 2010, 08:12 PM
... and somewhere a little angel just shed a tear.

huntsman
October 20, 2010, 08:24 PM
run with any bullet type or shape, JHP, wadcutter, etc., and with all brands?
Or are we asking a lot?

(This thread applies to all formats, 1911s, glocks, XD, M&P, etc.)
for an auotloader I'd say the fmj and hp and all brands and no fluff and buff that's the job of the finish bench before final inspection.

millertyme
October 20, 2010, 08:25 PM
no issues with my 9mm CZ75B. I imagine with something designed to feed a bullet with a profile as rounds as your typical 230gr FMJ 45 auto you might encounter problems when the the profile of the bullet changes significantly.

KodiakBeer
October 20, 2010, 08:33 PM
Some brands of ammo are just poorly designed. How many threads have you seen on this forum alone where some guy writes "My gun won't reliably feed Gold Dots even after I've bought new mags, sent it back to the manufacturer, throated the chamber, polished this that and the other thing, etc, etc; so what's wrong with my gun?"

How many threads like that do you need to read before you accept that it's the fault of the ammo, not the various guns trying to chamber it?

Find an ammo your gun likes rather than pulling your hair out trying to make it eat ammo it doesn't like.

harmon rabb
October 20, 2010, 08:46 PM
Considering that I own plenty of guns that will run fine with anything, no, I don't think that's a lot to ask. Maybe I'll forgive an old design for not running with anything, but a new design? No way.

Go ahead, try to choke a properly functioning Glock or XD with whatever random type of ammo. Won't happen.

ritepath
October 20, 2010, 09:10 PM
I believe my PT145 sez something in the manual about running only FMJ. How sad is that?

Joe Demko
October 20, 2010, 09:15 PM
I'm presuming all claims of "my gun will run with anything" are backed up by the owner having actually tried everything. A gun running a whole bunch of FMJ white box and a few rounds of hollowpoints from one or two makers isn't quite "my gun will run with anything."

9mmepiphany
October 20, 2010, 09:23 PM
I'm presuming all claims of "my gun will run with anything" are backed up by the owner having actually tried everything.
That is what I would take it to mean...I used to question it until I met people with a lot more disposable income than I have...otherwise why would they mis-lead us like that. :D

I can say that when I buy a new .22lr, I do buy a box of every high speed HP or ball (depending on what I'm going to use it for) to try in it...,22lr's are picky like that

o Unforgiven o
October 20, 2010, 09:40 PM
Guns are at their core machines, nothing more and nothing less. When you introduce a part to them for which they were never intended to use I think it would be foolish and unrealistic to assume that it will use any round you put in it just because the caliber on the box matches. A gun should fire reliably with the ammo made to the specs it was intended use, anything else is taking a risk that the gun will not function properly.

That is how I see things anyway.

JTQ
October 20, 2010, 09:42 PM
From mikecu
Glocks do that, like they should.
From harmon rabb
Go ahead, try to choke a properly functioning Glock
Do you guys shoot a lot of lead semi-wadcutters through your Glock factory barrels?

9mmepiphany
October 21, 2010, 12:04 AM
Do you guys shoot a lot of lead semi-wadcutters through your Glock factory barrels?

you're being generous, when someone says anything...I'm thinking full wadcutters

Shadow 7D
October 21, 2010, 01:02 AM
I thought that LEAD bullets and glocks mix well with a KABOOM
and don't most semis choke on wadcutters?

After all if you wanted to shoot it all, you should have bought a revolver instead.

harmon rabb
October 21, 2010, 06:18 AM
I'm presuming all claims of "my gun will run with anything" are backed up by the owner having actually tried everything. A gun running a whole bunch of FMJ white box and a few rounds of hollowpoints from one or two makers isn't quite "my gun will run with anything."

I have actually tested anything I carry or use for HD with a large variety of ammunition, both fmj and jhp.

Joe Demko
October 21, 2010, 07:34 AM
"Large variety" is rather vague and still isn't "my gun will run with anything." It'd be accurate to say "my gun has run with everything I've tried in it," but don't let me get in the way of a good story.

sansone
October 21, 2010, 07:40 AM
another post for find something your gun likes, some are very picky eaters. usually the magazine feed lips can be slightly altered

foghornl
October 21, 2010, 02:29 PM
My KP-90 Ruger eats anything I have tried so far...Rem/Fed/Win "Ball" ammo, Rem Golden Sabre & Speer Gold Dot, Wincheser White Box "Personal Protection HP's" , Blazer Brass and Blazer Aluminum case, and even {Gasp!} Wolf steel-cased..

Have used all of those except for the Wolfk in Both my Springfield "Champion" & 'GI-45'

That being said, Your Mileage Will Vary.... Had a Shooting Budd a while back (1994 or so) that bought a Springfield 1911...it ONLY worked with genuine USGI Ball ammo.

wanderinwalker
October 21, 2010, 07:53 PM
With the exception of wadcutters, I am sure my Glock would feed and fire just about any 9mm ammo meeting specifications for overall length and pressure and velocity for the cartridge. I don't think lead semi-wadcutter would be an issue at all, I have tried some generic lead roundnose bullets I had lying around, just to see. I've mixed empty cases into the magazines to create malfunctions for practice, and it feeds empties 50/50. (Which is good IMO, means I'm never sure exactly what kind of malfunction I'm going to induce. Maybe a fail to fire, maybe a fail to feed.)

While I don't think it's a huge stretch to expect a semi-auto pistol to feed and fire most anything, I do think it's a stretch to expect it to work with everything. If you wanted to shoot wadcutters, you should have gotten a revolver or a S&W 52... ;)

The Lone Haranguer
October 21, 2010, 08:06 PM
run with any bullet type or shape, JHP, wadcutter, etc., and with all brands?
Or are we asking a lot?

:scrutiny: You have to keep it within reason.

cpirtle
October 22, 2010, 05:26 PM
"Gun" is a pretty broad term so unless I missed it no one has mentioned match grade barrels. In that case no.

My answer is still no, I don't think any gun can be expected to feed any ammo, but didn't want to repeat what many others have said.

Strahley
October 22, 2010, 06:12 PM
I wouldn't care to own a gun that couldn't

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