I convinced my wife that I needed a muzzle loader. I told her that I only needed one of those all-in-one bargain packages (CVA or such) at $160 or so. After all, the primitive season is only a few days long, and I won't likely shoot it that often. I went to the gun shop Saturday morning to pick one up, and ended up coming home with a TC Black Diamond XR 50 cal with all the extras ($350 or so).
Question- Anyone have a suggestion for dampening ramrod rattle? I tried putting a piece tape on the rod, but even a tiny piece binds the rod. The rod fits pretty tight, but it still produces an annoying rattle when the rifle is bumped or shaken. Probably not a big deal, but I'd hate to lose a opportunity because of it.
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TerryBob
December 18, 2003, 09:43 AM
Ummmm, My $150 traditions does not rattle like that :neener:
I'm sorry but I just could not resist.
TerryBob
BigG
December 18, 2003, 10:06 AM
Most of the traditional sidehammers have a flat spring under the forend that grips the ramrod. Check there. HTH:)
Atticus
December 18, 2003, 11:21 AM
"Ummmm, My $150 traditions does not rattle like that "
I'm sorry but I just could not resist.
TerryBob
Very funny!! I don't think this one did either - till I took it apart a couple of times. (probably failed to mention that didn't I). I did find that the rattle decreased considerably (upon re-assembly) when I tightened the front bolt (just in front of the triggerguard ) before completely tightening the rear one.
There are two "beer- keg- like guides" under the barrel that the rod slides though, and those are the source of the remaining rattle. Maybe a touch of Bore Butter or Rig will quiet them. If all else fails - I've got plenty of duct tape.
BigG- This is an in-line with a synthetic camo stock.
TerryBob
December 18, 2003, 11:40 AM
What kind of caps does the thing use. I am thinking of upgrading to a musket cap or a shotgun primer. I am also thinking of putting a 3x9 scope on it. It's already a micky mouse muzzle loader, I might as well go the rest of the way.
My Traditions is as simple as simple can be. When the trigger is pulled, the whole bolt slides forward and becomes the hammer. I love the simplicity of it but when it the woods, I need to make sure that nothing such as sticks and leaves get into the slide area. The barrel is great and the fiber optic sights are a plus. I want to use the raised rings for the scope.
Take care and happy shooting,
TerryBob
Atticus
December 18, 2003, 02:20 PM
209 primer, #11 percussion, musket caps - All three came with the gun. It is currently set up with the 209.
cornbread2
December 18, 2003, 08:04 PM
So why did you buy an inline which is a modern rifle to hunt in the primitive season?
Atticus
December 18, 2003, 09:42 PM
Primitive in Ohio means muzzleloader or bow (including crossbow). I came very close to buying a Hawkin that I saw online...but I had ORIGINALLY planned on staying under $150. I set out Saturday for the local gun shop to pick up a CVA package (including scope and other tools)... but sorta got carried away after looking at the Knights and TC's. The rest is history.
I had a TC Thunderhawk about 6 years ago, but sold it because I never used it. So I am somewhat familiar with the rifle.
smokemaker
December 18, 2003, 10:31 PM
Since when does a gun you have to load from the front end one shot at a time count as modern... I didn't see a place for the metallic cartridge on the black diamond I looked over at the gun shop. Or in other words... quit yer b**chin or get an atlatl or a rock sling if you don't want to use something "modern". And there better not be a "modern" compound bow in the closet either... go make yourself one out of Osage Orange branches and sinews.
Edit one: By the way, a modern inline flintlock was around in 1733!
MacPelto
December 18, 2003, 10:37 PM
Edit one: By the way, a modern inline flintlock was around in 1733!
I didn't know that...where can one find pics/description of such a beast?
4v50 Gary
December 18, 2003, 10:57 PM
Piece of rawhide sewn & shrunk onto the point of rattle. Modernly you can use duct tape.;)
TerryBob
December 19, 2003, 08:20 AM
"So why did you buy an inline which is a modern rifle to hunt in the primitive season?"
For me, it was just a matter of cost. I bought my Traditions for $150 after I was invited to go black powder hunting. I did not have the money for a nice sidelock like I really want.
One of these days, I want a really nice Kentucky or Pennsylvania Rifle but they ain't cheap. I have 4 kids under 6 so it's gonna be a while. Until then, I'll keep dragging out my Mickey Mouse inline so that my sidelock toten buddys can laugh at me every time I start to stuff a sabbot down the barrel.
Take care all,
TerryBob
smokemaker
December 19, 2003, 06:55 PM
Sam Fadala makes reference of such a gun in the 4th edition blackpowder handbook. I have never seen pics of said gun, but it was a .57 cal smoothbore fowler that is in the tower of london collection of firearms. Oh, and I was wrong on the date... it was 1738. And just because I went off last night about "modern" guns doesn't mean I don't shoot sidelocks, as I have two of them. And two inlines. I just don't like the elitism of some of the side-locker only guys. (or their recurve only bowmen friends, either) I believe if ya' don't like it, don't use it... but don't ride someone for making a different decision than you.
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