Looking for a .45 ACP Pocket Rocket.


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RX-178
October 21, 2010, 04:37 PM
But pickings seem to be slim.

The ones that I'm giving serious consideration to are a Springfield Micro GI, and a Kahr PM45.

I'm not really considering an AMT Backup, mainly from that company's history of marginal reliability, but I'm going to throw it out there just in case any of you have other opinions on it you'd like to share with me.

If you know of any other options for a .45 ACP pocket pistol, please chime in as well.

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xXxplosive
October 21, 2010, 04:40 PM
Don't own one but you might consider the S&W Chief Special .45acp.

A and O
October 21, 2010, 05:09 PM
I have the SA Micro and love it. Kinda scary looking from the front perspective to a bg and more accurate than I had expected it to be.

verdun59
October 21, 2010, 05:14 PM
Anything other than AMT !

Steve H
October 21, 2010, 05:18 PM
Kimber Ultra CDP II for a larger pocket

Russ Jackson
October 21, 2010, 05:21 PM
The Ultimate would be an old Detonics Mark VII without sights . That Springfield Micro Gi is very nice....Russ

m2steven
October 21, 2010, 05:57 PM
Although not a pocket pistol as such, I really love my Glock 36. It's a real shooter.

RhodesianRLI
October 21, 2010, 05:58 PM
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/charlesqian/SW945CompactPC1.jpg

This S&W 945 compact with 3 1/4 inch barrel seems like the ultimate small .45

They are rare and pretty expensive, but look very nice

RX-178
October 22, 2010, 10:02 PM
Still leaning towards the Springfield Micro GI it looks like.

The only thing about it is it does seem noticeably larger than the PM45.

bds
October 22, 2010, 10:15 PM
Gen3 Taurus Mil Pro PT145 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_50_495/products_id/55236) (no PRO next to MILLENNIUM) with DA/SA trigger has shorter slide length than Glock 26 and grip length comparable to Glock 19. It's been reliable feeding SWC like RN.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/55/55234.jpg

MICHAEL T
October 22, 2010, 10:34 PM
Colt New Agent , Colt Defender, My old 80 Detonics works in pocket but might on heavy side .

larryh1108
October 22, 2010, 11:49 PM
+1 on the PT145 unless you have the extra $$ for the Kahr. For the price, the PT145 is very accurate and reliable. The Gen 3 is the one to get as all the kinks seem to be worked out.

PT1911
October 22, 2010, 11:54 PM
The Kahr CW 45 is one hell of a nice gun... I will also second the PT145 as a nice gun as well though neither fits in what I would call the pocket carry category... IMO, there are no 45's available that would comfortable fit in the pocket... (I automatically exclude derringers and the like...)

IMO, the thinness of the Kahr makes it the most comfortable and concealable compromise available in 45acp... JMHO..

DonRon
October 22, 2010, 11:59 PM
The Glock 27 in .40 is badder than any 45 ACP. Real bear to shoot though! On the positive side, you won't have to oil it every time you shoot it and it will probably never jam and act up like a 1911 so you won't have to constantly spend money on it at the gun smith shop.

DasFriek
October 23, 2010, 01:38 AM
The Glock 27 in .40 is badder than any 45 ACP. Real bear to shoot though! On the positive side, you won't have to oil it every time you shoot it and it will probably never jam and act up like a 1911 so you won't have to constantly spend money on it at the gun smith shop.

I did not know that.

9mmepiphany
October 23, 2010, 03:27 AM
Between the short 1911 and the Kahr, my experience has shown me that the Kahr will generally be more reliable based on it's action and timing.

The ultimate, at least of the one's I've handled, really small .45ACP pistols is the Semmerling LM-4

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSiOd1D4ZT_X63TAjsxUHWxDjNxX8I_WdRQX506BElkYV9scH8&t=1&usg=__flFlXzjVtcbqdDm1NqcSuxvoVJA=

The Lone Haranguer
October 23, 2010, 06:06 AM
The PM45 is the only gun in that caliber even close to being reasonably pocketable, IMO. There is a difference between being able to stick a gun in your pocket for short distances and durations and practical to carry and conceal on a regular basis. I also have a distrust of the ability of a little spring crammed into a small magazine to push the heavy cartridges up in time. In a Glock 30 I once owned, I had to sort through several magazines before I found two that fed 100%.

BTW, the Semmerling is not a semi-auto, it is manually operated, by pushing the slide forward. I want my handguns operable with just one hand, thanks. :)

uspJ
October 23, 2010, 06:59 AM
Does the G.I. micro feed hollowpoints? I picked up a gently used G.I. lw champion the other day and the sales clerk told me that the G.I. series wouldn't feed hollowpoints and couldn't handle +p loads. I bought it as a range toy so I wasn't concerned, plus the $299 price tag had me sold.

I'm not that familiar with the G.I. models, I have a loaded champion and it feeds hydrashocks with no problems. My G.I. champion choked about every 3rd shot using hps so I can't say for sure if it the model or MY GUN that doesn't like hp ammo.

You may want to check on that before picking up the micro G.I., that would seriously limit your choices of carry ammo if the model does have issues with HP ammo.

71Commander
October 23, 2010, 07:48 AM
That Semmerling LM-4 looks like the trigger guard would smash into your fingers every time you shot it.

71Commander
October 23, 2010, 07:53 AM
I have a Para C6-45. It's a tad smaller in the grip than a 3" 1911. It uses Wilson Centenial 6 round mags.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/9c1ebdf5.jpg

Bernie Lomax
October 23, 2010, 08:28 AM
You might want to wait a while. Ruger just came out with a compact SR9, and now a .40 S&W version of the SR9 (the SR40.) It would stand to reason that next, they'll be coming out with a compact version of the SR40 and then an SR45 and then a compact SR45.

DasFriek
October 23, 2010, 11:20 AM
Concerning Ruger i highly doubt they will be making any gun besides a .380 thats even close to pocket-able. Even their compacts are the size of many mid sized guns.
They may great reliable guns tho.

I normally dont like PO and their LDA triggers, But i do like the looks of that one 71Commander.
Detonics makes the Combat master that reminds me alot of the Colt New Agent but several hundred dollars cheaper.

For me i like the PM45, But shooting it has to hurt with it being so small. BUt its not designed to be a range gun anyhow.
I owned the Taurus PT745 which is a single stack version of the PT145 and it was a very small gun and reliable. But again no fun to shoot at the range and recoil made it hard to get back on target without alot of practice.

The CW45 could be a good compromise, Its no pocket gun but highly concealable.
Id love to own a Colt New Agent or Defender, And the S&W perf center looks amazing also.
I too am in the hunt for a micro .45 to go along with my 5" 1911 and XD SC .40 as i just love .45's and id like one smaller than my XD SC.

Ive narrowed it down to the New Agent and Detonics Combat Master and the PM45.
I dont think you could go wrong with any of them and if you dont like it all will hold their value very well at resale time.

9mmepiphany
October 23, 2010, 01:32 PM
That Semmerling LM-4 looks like the trigger guard would smash into your fingers every time you shot it.

Actually it has less muzzle whip than you would think as it does not have a recoil operated reciprocating slide

DenaliPark
October 23, 2010, 02:22 PM
Although not a pocket pistol as such, I really love my Glock 36. It's a real shooter.
Well neither are any of the others, so the G-36 gets the nod....

DenaliPark
October 23, 2010, 02:25 PM
You might want to wait a while. Ruger just came out with a compact SR9, and now a .40 S&W version of the SR9 (the SR40.) It would stand to reason that next, they'll be coming out with a compact version of the SR40 and then an SR45 and then a compact SR45.
So?

bds
October 23, 2010, 03:09 PM
If you know of any other options for a .45 ACP pocket pistol, please chime in as well.
Here's PT145 next to my G27 with +1 Pearce grip extension. BTW, PT145 uses the same holster as XD pistol (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=111612).

Most people consider G26/G27 to be a very small subcompact. When I tell them a 10+1 double stack 45ACP compact like PT145 is comparable in size, they can't believe it.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=126845&stc=1&d=1283178089

Russ Jackson
October 23, 2010, 04:58 PM
...Russ

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr1/RussJackson/detonicspac.jpg

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