Wow! Just Tried to Order a Sling Shot.


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AnklePocket
January 23, 2003, 12:37 PM
Just tried to order a sling shot so as to relive my youth and they're illegal to sell in New Jersey. What a deal. New Jersey residents also can't be trusted with sling shots. I'm a gnat's hair away from running for office. I'm putting Barbara Streisand's Greatest Hits in the CD player right now. ***, over.

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foghornl
January 23, 2003, 01:48 PM
Time for a road trip to PA or maybe even NY, and a visit to Wally World for a "wrist rocket"

STW
January 23, 2003, 04:10 PM
Obviously they are an entry level projectile weapon that must be controlled to protect our youth. Case in point: I started out with a sling shot when I was six or seven, in the pre-wrist rocket days, transitioned to a bow (pre-compound days) and now have several handguns and rifles.

I suppose one of my guns may go out and rob a gas station soon or attack a grey haired old lady if I'm not careful. Thank goodness I haven't taught them to drive yet. Luckily, they'd probably get lost since they never ask for directions.

I still have the slingshot but wonder where I could ever find new elastic for it. It's done for after 40 some odd years. Unfortunately, I've lost the wire attachment that allowed you to also shoot arrows.:(

wingman
January 23, 2003, 04:19 PM
Back in the "good old days" when money
or anything was hard to get we used a
fork limb whittled for size and fit, then
placed used rubber tubing on fork as
the sling, had a lot of fun with those,
sorry now to say but a few small
animals died during sighting in.:rolleyes:

4v50 Gary
January 23, 2003, 04:41 PM
A coworker wanted a blowgun. Kalif (or is it Caliph?)says no importation into this state. I suggested he send it to my brother in NV. My parents would never have suspected the future life of crime my brother (blow gun smuggler) and I (consiprator) would have. Obviously we're not at fault since we're products of public education.

jimpeel
January 23, 2003, 04:48 PM
Slingshots ... the gateway to firearms misuse.

geekWithA.45
January 23, 2003, 06:02 PM
They're a lot more fun, anyway.

2dogs
January 23, 2003, 06:38 PM
Just tried to order a sling shot

EEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKK- TERRORIST, PSYCHOKILLER AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH:neener:

whoami
January 24, 2003, 08:43 AM
Not surprising. You ought to read up on the law more. According to 2C 31-9:

f. "Firearm" means any handgun, rifle, shotgun, machine gun, automatic or semi-automatic rifle, or any gun, device or instrument in the nature of a weapon from which may be fired or ejected any solid projectable ball, slug, pellet, missile or bullet, or any gas, vapor or other noxious thing, by means of a cartridge or shell or by the action of an explosive or the igniting of flammable or explosive substances. It shall also include, without limitation, any firearm which is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of a similar nature in which the propelling force is a spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, compressed or other gas or vapor, air or compressed air, or is ignited by compressed air, and ejecting a bullet or missile smaller than three-eighths of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person.

Now, how many shops do you know out there that'll be set up to perform a NICS check for a sling-shot...considering that in NJ a slingshot is legally a firearm (other weapon of a similar nature in which the propelling force is...elastic band...ejecting a bullet or missile...with sufficient force to injure a person)? :what:

Not to mention that I'm REALLY curious how you'd explain to a judge what lawful reason you have to possess and carry a slingshot (remember, possession for any reason other than lawful is prohibited?). :banghead:

Pilot
January 24, 2003, 08:58 AM
"You'll shoot your eye out."

Oh, that's for BB guns. Are they illegal in NJ too?

Blackhawk
January 24, 2003, 10:40 AM
Half the fun of them was in the making. "Store bought" ones were for sissys who couldn't even pick good rocks to use much less hit anything.

Of course, you could probably go to jail for having a whittlin' knife or defacing a tree. Where would you find a suitable inner tube today, anyway?

Sigh.... :(

Felonious Monk
January 24, 2003, 11:55 AM
I still have the slingshot but wonder where I could ever find new elastic for it. Two Words: Surgical tubing, my friend! Any med supply place'll have it for a few drachmas. And it immediately makes your slingshot a Magnum. :D

STW
January 24, 2003, 01:24 PM
Surgical tubing won't work since it won't fit an old fashion sling shot. I need flat strips of rubber. The classic answer would be strips of inner-tube, which is also getting harder to find. I'll have to check with a friend, owner of a tire shop or maybe with a bike repair shop.

labgrade
January 24, 2003, 01:48 PM
Yup, surgical tubing & if that can't be bought, a stretch of a bicycle inner tube used to work quite fine.

Blowguns can be made from anything that's a decent enough precision tube. Darts are as can be made. I've taken (even) doves outa the trees with a bare-bones Al arrow shaft with a bare-bones dart.

Worst case, buy one of those .40 cal 5' blowguns & you can get stuff. If not, a 1/2 stretch of 1/2" diameter EMT works pretty good enough.

Regulating a slingshot is just so stupid.

NJ needs to be attached to Kali when it breaks of from the mainland.

jimpeel
January 27, 2003, 02:37 PM
Surgical tubing won't work since it won't fit an old fashion sling shot.Then you are not being resourceful enough. Drill the slingshot through the uprights and insert a couple of 1/4" rivets through the holes and then put the surgical rubber over the posts you have created. Screws would do but the threads would eventually cause a premature failure as they cut through the rubber.

CatsDieNow
January 27, 2003, 02:51 PM
According to that 2C 31-9 that Whoami posted I could make a half-baked case for stopping the sale of automobiles:

"Firearm" means any...any gun, device or instrument...from which may be fired or ejected...any gas, vapor or other noxious thing...by means of...igniting of flammable or explosive substances.

:rolleyes:

rick_reno
January 27, 2003, 04:15 PM
f. "Firearm" means any *text deleted* device or instrument in the nature of a weapon from which may be fired or ejected *text deleted* or any gas, vapor or other noxious thing, by means of an *text deleted* explosive or the igniting of flammable or explosive substances.

Suppose I just farted! Is this illegal in New Jersey? Is my *** an "instrument:? from which "any gas, vapor or other noxious thing" is "ejected"?

griz
January 27, 2003, 05:03 PM
Forked branch + inner tube = NJ Saturday night special.

I suppose next they will outlaw gravel driveways because somebody might pick up a stone and throw it. Marbles next?:rolleyes:

Detachment Charlie
January 27, 2003, 05:17 PM
Oh, my brothers and sisters, take pitty on this poor wretch, for I am a (gulp) gun-a-holic.
I wasn't always like this. No, years ago I didn't own a gun and had never touched one. However, I fell in among evil companions one bright Summer day, lo those many years ago.
It was out behind my friends house. One "friend" raised his four-year-old finger and pointed it at me and said those ever-fateful words: "Bang-Bang, you're dead." "Am not," I responded. Are too," he said. All I could do was respond with raising my own hand, pointing a digit and yelling, "Bang-Bang, you're dead, varmit!"
OH, Lordy, it went down hill quickly from that fateful starting point. Soon I was shooting cap guns, lusting in my heart for a Fanner Fifty.
Soon, even that wasn't enough, a Whamo Slingshot dragged me further down the road of wanton weapons. It didn't do much for the neighborhood cats, either.
Then, there was that big leap all junkies take sooner or later. Yup, a Daisy Red Ryder B-B gun. Oh, the horror of my addiction as it grew. I squandered untold amounts of money from my paper route to fund my purchases of those tubes of little spheres of copper.
Then, believe it or not, a member of my own family lead me right to "the hard stuff." I confess, it was my own Father who was the pusher who gave me my first taste of gunpowder. I was just a boy of 12 when he gave me a genuine, single-shot .22 rifle.
He further lead me down the wicked path of firearm addiction by occassionaly allowing me a few pops with his S&W .38 Spl. It really hooked me.
But, my adiction wasn't complete until I, like so many of my generation went into the military and off to Vietnam. Man, they had some really hard stuff over there. And it was easily available. I mean uncut, pure .223 full-auto stuff, hand grenades, grenade launchers...it was all too much for this impressionable boy.
Late one night, I met "her," and it was a sad, but familiar tale. I was introduced to the infamous Ma Deuce. That sealed my fate.
Brother and Sisters, My name is John and I'm a gun-a-holic.
And, it all started with a "gateway" weapon, my finger.
So, be kind, and never give anybody the finger.
I think that's the moral to this story.
(Sorry, I just had to get that out of my system.:neener:

Gila Jorge
January 27, 2003, 05:37 PM
Ah yes...the days of Stallion 45s, Fanner 50s,
and Whamo sling shots. Prior to Whamo there were the forked tree branch variety and inner tubing rubber. Then surgical rubber for the Whamos. Then
on to Wrist Rockets. What a blissful days of infamy....

WalkerTexasRanger
January 27, 2003, 07:03 PM
Hey Cory,

Its a damn good thing you sold me that Leupold scope or you might be inclined to do some long range plinking with the surgical tube slingshot you will soon be fabricating.

I guess that means I cant bring my potato gun to NJ...

SIGarmed
January 27, 2003, 07:33 PM
All you need for your "junk gun" is an old metal wire clothing hanger and some rubberbands. You'll need a wire cutter and some pliers too.

You shape the wire from the hanger into the shape of the sling shot you want wrist lock or not and and then you can double up some rubber bands to use instead of an inner tube. You connect them at both ends of the "Y" shape by bending loops in the wire.

You can use electrical tape or something similiar to hold the projectile at the end of the length of rubber bands.

These were the poor boy slingshots me and the neighborhood kids made when we were growing up. :)

Freedom in theSkies
January 28, 2003, 03:02 AM
"You'll shoot your eye out."


BWWWWAAAAHHHHAAAAA....:D

Now all I'm going to be able to think about is the little kid in the puffy red snowsuit gettin' shot with a slingshot by the "evil boys"...:eek:
Maybe guns are better....;)

Yup... Definately Better

DadOfThree
January 28, 2003, 05:34 AM
jimpeel,

Then you are not being resourceful enough. Drill the slingshot through the uprights and insert a couple of 1/4" rivets through the holes and then put the surgical rubber over the posts you have created.
Careful!! In NJ they may call the ATF on you for an AOW violation for having the "altered" wrist rocket :D :D

Russ
January 28, 2003, 11:10 AM
You might shoot your eye out!

BOBE
January 28, 2003, 12:23 PM
Slingshots are not suitable for robberies with no third hand to haul the loot.:confused: :uhoh:

Mr Jody Hudson
January 28, 2003, 01:20 PM
Perhaps you may consider... the original sling.

In my research I found that the original slings were superior to MOST of our current weapons except in ease of learning and subtlety of use. The sling takes a LOT of learning. It also takes a bit of room to fling it around a time or two.

However, per my research the original slings often used a very aerodynamic projectile called a "bullet" which was a hard boiled bird egg, various sizes for various uses and ranges...

Goliath, by the way, never had a chance. Even today, the Israeli sheppard boys sling stones dozens and dozens of times a day as they fling them to change the direction of the sheep and keep them in a flock (sheep being very skitterish) and they also are practiced enough to kill the ever present snakes and the occassional wolf at sizeable distances.

So, consider making a sling and lots of practice.
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If you can't BEAT THEM; OUT DO THEM!!! :cuss:

jimpeel
January 28, 2003, 04:28 PM
Suppose I just farted! Is this illegal in New Jersey? Is my *** an "instrument:? from which "any gas, vapor or other noxious thing" is "ejected"?
Only if you light it off with a match.:fire:

AnklePocket
January 28, 2003, 05:05 PM
If the enemy lands on the shores of Jersey I'll have strategic fireteams located throughout armed with underground sling shots. We'll be swift, silent and stretchy.

Mr Jody Hudson
January 29, 2003, 12:23 PM
Just remember folks that Slings and Sling-Shots are two entirely different tools.

Do some searching on the warfare history of the sling and you'll find slingers in the old days whose job it was to kill the enemy with head shots to the helmet at over 200 yards!!!!!

There have been massive piles of clay "bullets" found that were made for the slingers. Some of them were reportedly up to SIX OUNCES AND USED AT OVER 200 YARDS AGAINST HANNIBALS ELEPHANTS, which were armored by the way.

A fellow I know was telling me that the HumVees in military use right now in Kosovo and such places, have some serious bullet resistant glass that is not too badly affected by military small arms (rifles and pistols) including the AP that is illegally used... except that the windows are often spidered so badly from slung rocks that they can't easily see out of them :what:

labgrade
January 29, 2003, 06:23 PM
& do consider that next time you hear the newzies reporting that "they were only throwing rocks."

mete
January 29, 2003, 10:20 PM
No sense in telling him how to make one , they are not legal in NJ. We amateur radio operators use slingshots to put antennas in trees, thats pretty harmless. But don't do it in NJ we explain to Jerseyits.

samualt
January 29, 2003, 10:33 PM
AnklePocket: Your welcome to come live in Texas anytime. You can own a slingshot, a BB gun, and even firearms! We have the best mexican food in the US, it never gets too cold, and the friendliest people y'all have ever seen.

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