African witch doctor shot and killed while wearing bullet proof charm


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Triad
December 17, 2003, 11:49 PM
Article (http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/News/0,,2-11-1447_1460583,00.html)
'Bullet-proof' man shot dead
17/12/2003 12:51 - (SA)

Lagos - A traditional doctor in central Nigeria has been shot dead by a patient who was testing the potency of an anti-bullet charm the herbalist had prepared for him, police said on Wednesday.

Ashi Terfa died when patient Umaa Akor fired a gun at his head two weeks ago in south-central Benue state, police spokesperson Bode Fakeye said.

"Akor went for an insurance against bullets and contacted Terfa to prepare it for him," he said.

"To confirm its efficacy, the herbalist tied the charm around his neck and insisted that Akor should fire a gun at him. The experiment proved fatal for the herbalist and his skull was shattered," he added. "He died immediately".

Fakeye said the suspect had appeared in court for culpable homicide, but had been release on bail.

"The motive to kill could not be established against the suspect since the herbalist asked him to shoot to test the charm," he added.

The belief in withcraft and charms is rife in Africa.

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swifter
December 18, 2003, 12:02 AM
By Gawd, its good to see someone with that kind of faith in their products...:evil:
Tom

Triad
December 18, 2003, 12:12 AM
Yeah, it's a shame he didn't have better quality control.

Prodigalshooter
December 18, 2003, 12:14 AM
Darn, I was gonna get one of those too!:neener: ;)

Ky Larry
December 18, 2003, 12:15 AM
I read an article somewhere that said an African county (Nigeria?) had refused to vacinate their children against polio. They claimed the program was an American plot to depopulate Africa. With mental heavy weights like this witch doctor, I don't think they need any help with depopulation.:rolleyes:

Ukraine Train
December 18, 2003, 12:36 AM
Wow they're smart haha. I remember hearing about some African presidennt that wouldn't acknowledge the existence of AIDS/HIV even though people around him were dropping left and right.

larry_minn
December 18, 2003, 12:52 AM
So did this Dr. work for Second Chance?

7.62FullMetalJacket
December 18, 2003, 01:25 AM
Somebody forgot to tell the bullet

Sactown
December 18, 2003, 01:30 AM
The gene pool is now a tiny bit better.

Reading these stories just blows my mind...bad choice of words, but anyhow, it's really amazing that this kinda thing can happen. Why didn't the witch doctor first make an anti-wood club charm before moving up to bullets. If he'd tested the anti-wood club charm all he woulda got would've been a bruise.

telewinz
December 18, 2003, 05:45 AM
And who said medical malpractice suits were only a problem in this country?:D

straightShot
December 18, 2003, 06:08 AM
I wonder if the patient will still get a bill in the mail...

cool45auto
December 18, 2003, 07:04 AM
Somebody forgot to tell the bullet
He should have tried charming the bullet instead of himself.

Mark Tyson
December 18, 2003, 07:58 AM
This particular debate of science versus religion is settled.

ceetee
December 18, 2003, 08:24 AM
And who said medical malpractice suits were only a problem in this country?



It's just too bad there's nobody left to sue...

280PLUS
December 18, 2003, 08:27 AM
the charm was made for the other guy and not himself so it couldn't possibly work for him,,,

details,,,they'll get you every time,,,

:D

another post humous Darwin Award nominee

seeker_two
December 18, 2003, 08:33 AM
He forgot one important ingredient in his potion....


...Eye of Kevlar. :evil:


Well, at least the buyer didn't get cheated...;)

Preacherman
December 18, 2003, 09:26 AM
This is far more common in Africa than you'd believe. I know of several cases in South Africa from first-hand experience. The bullet-proof charms / potions / lotions didn't work there, either... :D

fiVe
December 18, 2003, 09:40 AM
The belief in withcraft and charms is rife in Africa.

Well hopefully it's a little less rife now.


It's obvious it should've been an anti-cartridge charm. An anti-bullet charm is fine, I'm sure, but it should've included gunpowder, primer, etc.

Missouri Mule
December 18, 2003, 01:14 PM
Blanks .... I said .....blanks......:what: :barf:

Quartus
December 18, 2003, 01:28 PM
Oops.



:D



I must be an evil person - I'm totally lacking in sympathy for the witch doctor.

:D




I DO feel sorry for the shooter, though. Not his fault, and he's facing trial.

TonyB
December 18, 2003, 03:38 PM
Can you say"natural selection".......:cool: :rolleyes:

El Tejon
December 18, 2003, 03:40 PM
Someone should have given the good doctor a book on the Boxer Rebellion. It didn't work in China either.:D

williegee
December 18, 2003, 04:20 PM
Run, Forrest run!:scrutiny:

michiganfan
December 18, 2003, 05:32 PM
Perhaps it was a charm for a lesser caliber than the gun was chambered for.

telewinz
December 18, 2003, 05:54 PM
But it was just a little hole, it just needs a little more work.:D

Autolite
December 18, 2003, 07:10 PM
It was likely a teflon coated bullet. No one yet has made a charm that can stop one of those ...

cracked butt
December 18, 2003, 07:21 PM
I guess the bullet missed the charm, that's why people in advanced civilizations where bullet proof VESTS- much harder to miss.

Kinda brings up the image of the video of the guy who makes he bullet proof vests shooting himself in the chest with a .44 magnum. Might have been fun if the witch doctor made a similar video of his test.

standingbear
December 18, 2003, 08:17 PM
its hard to believe that yes..there are still cultures that believe in all that hokus pokus stuff.vodoo is still practiced,by peoples strong beliefs,fear and with a lil help from the poisonus puffer fish.Other cultures will hack off the arms of everyone that received a anti viral shot because they believe in their own ways so strongly.

45R
December 18, 2003, 08:36 PM
Well that little clinical trial had "POOR OUTCOME" Written all over it!

HogRider
December 18, 2003, 09:02 PM
Another one for the Darwin Awards.

P95Carry
December 18, 2003, 09:06 PM
Another one for the Darwin Awards. Damn Harley!! You beat me by about three minutes!!! :D

Seems Voodoo and charms etc ain't no match for raw physics!!:p

jacketch
December 18, 2003, 10:48 PM
Isn't this very similar to what the Brady bunch want us to believe? That we will be protected from harm by their voodoo gun control magic?

Guy L Johnson
December 18, 2003, 11:00 PM
Must Have Been one of those jacketed teflon Witch Doctor killier bullets I wonder if they are banned in NJ also

280PLUS
December 19, 2003, 07:58 AM
Quote:

"its hard to believe that yes..there are still cultures that believe in all that hokus pokus stuff."

heck,,,there are still places on this planet where you could wind up on the menu

:what:

:eek:

Trisha
December 19, 2003, 01:38 PM
Ah, the joys of being Pagan!

No, not the fashionable new-age stuff, nor the African witchcraft; not the stuff that worships 'Satan,' nor the endless manifestations of 'Gothic' - none of that is kith and kin to the old religion. But be as calmly Pagan as others are Catholic, or Hindu and it's problematic.

The defiance of practicing witch-doctors (in Africa and elsewhere) against the modern world is their only way to hold on to what amounts to political power. common sense says one cannot heal with 'the laying on of hands,' yet even here in America such is accepted by some, practiced by some. The Bible says it is possible.

The witch doctor had faith. That in all probability his complete failure didn't sway the faithful followers is tragic.

Faith, religion is a means for humanity to hold the chaos of a world filled with mystery and wonder at bay, to shield people against fear, and a sense of mortality.

As a modern society, we adapt to demonstrations of physical laws and medical advances, though often religions often balk at the hard evidence science and technology produces.

Of course, cause and consequence fails when it reaches into the world of the well-documented paranormal - but I doubt faith can affect physics to a profound degree (at least at this stage of humanity).

Do you pray? Then you perform magic, in the perspective of some.

The witches, the shamans hold (in some cases) the culmination of tens of milennia of knowledge. It's a shame that we will lose that when the last of them are gone - even though it will be of immeasurable benefit to their cultures.

I respect this specific witch doctor for his conviction that his magic was real, his gods true, his power (or belief in it) built over a lifetime - though I do not agree with him.

A shaman once told me 'Seek great power with great care, for your mind may break, failing to be a worthy and capable vessel for the infinite, and the wreckage you become will go mad, believing yourself divine, when in truth you are lost.' I had just seen her dance for twenty minutes on the edge of a fully sharpened, long, heavy sword that was supported about two feet off of the ground, barefoot - without injury, even to surface nicks on her feet.

Yep, I've done it again - a long post (and that usually gets me in trouble, I know).

'By faith are we saved, through grace, unto life everlasting.' During the Battle of the Bulge, my father, his mind failing after the seemingly endless days and nights of carnage, saw his closest friend fall some fifty feet in front of him. My father stood, in the midst of a firefight and, reciting those words walked to his friend, picking him up and bringing him back to medics some hundred yards to the rear. A buddy of his present told me that the Germans threw everything they had at my father - and he was untouched. A few days later my father's feet were discovered frozen, black almost to the knees. He was supposed to have both of them amputated, but he refused. Two weeks later he was walking, his feet undamaged. . .

Faith? Magic? Confusion? Chance? Who knows.

We live with a conviction in a natural, absolute right to self-defense, to the ridicule and defamation of so many. May our magic never fail us, may we win simply by our faith, our deeds and our lives!

Would that I could gift someone an amulet, a charm that would let the other know that magic as absolutely as I! Because the best defense against someone with a gun intent on murder and mayhem is my own firearm, my training, my heart and mind - the result of decades of thought and study and hard work!

It's a pity the witch doctor didn't realize his shortuct wouldn't work - the 2A movement could use millions of people with his level of belief (though we might end up seeing voodo dolls of Chuck Schumer becomming popular. . .)!

:D

Trisha

Revolver
December 19, 2003, 09:10 PM
Yez everybody knows you have to drink POTIONS to be bullet proof. You think they would have learned by now:rolleyes:

Sharpie1
December 20, 2003, 11:57 AM
What gets me is that the guy was evidently quite confident with his work.

Perhaps his peer witch doctors will now only shoot themselves in the leg, and have a box of band-aids handy just in case something goes wrong - again.

:D

TD

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