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Ohioan
October 29, 2010, 04:11 PM
I've never bought anything off of an internet auction site. I've purchased lots of stuff from online retailers though. Am I just acting like an old man scared of those internets thingy's?

Here's the deal. I have my heart set on a RIA compact 1911. Both of the LGS's sell them for $459.0 plus tax which equals out to $494. (Is there any other tax than the local sales on guns?) Berkshireguns on gunbroker is selling them for $390 shipped. Even with the dealer transfer fee, I'm coming out $100 less expensive by going gunbroker. Personally, imd rather buy local.... but a benjamin is a benjamin. I don't think i'd be able to get the gun for $400 otd from either local guy...

So, what's the deal? Someone give me advice on dealing with gunbroker please.

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usmarine0352_2005
October 29, 2010, 04:17 PM
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Gunbroker is expensive, you might want to try Gunsamerica.com



Also, usually it will state whether they charge state tax or not. Some also charge extra for certain credit cards and some charge more or less for shipping.


It's definitely worth looking at quite a few. What I do is find the gun I want and then contact the seller, which is usually a gun shop.
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Dnaltrop
October 29, 2010, 04:20 PM
My Schofield replica came to me through Gunbroker, as well as being the first time I'd ever bought anything from an internet auction. It's not so difficult once you go through it.

it's easy, you place a winning bid, Promptly contact, and arrange payment with the seller.

The seller will ship the gun to the local FFL holder in your area of your choosing. It's best to poke around town, fees may vary between shops.

The local FFL will handle the paperwork, background check, the fees and transfer the gun to you.

GB has some unbeatable deals, but if you have a good relationship with your local store, you *MIGHT* be able to get a deal that comes close when you factor in the shipping.

My Schofield locally was $739 in a shop I stopped in this week, I paid about $10 less after the shipping. It was worth it at the time as I was unable to find my revolver earlier this year locally.

wh!plash
October 29, 2010, 04:22 PM
I wouldn't say that 'gunbroker is expensive'. Gunbroker is just a site where sellers list their items. And you'll find that a lot of the guns you see are listed there by actual dealers, not always just random people. Buying a gun online from dealer XYZ is not different from buying a gun listed on auction by dealer XYZ. Think of it just a way for dealers to advertise in a central place where people can find it.

I think over half the guns I own came through gunbroker at some time or another.

I don't think i'd be able to get the gun for $400 otd from either local guy

Another way to look at it. Inform your local guy that he has the choice to sell you the gun for that price, or he'll simply make the transfer money off you. Depends on his cost for the gun, but whichever whichever makes him more money is what he'll do.

writerinmo
October 29, 2010, 04:24 PM
I have bought several things off of Gunbroker. The first thing to remember is, Gunbroker isn't the one selling these items, its just dealers and some regular guys selling stuff and using their site to draw potential buyers in. You still have the possibility of getting ripped off just like you can on ebay by an unscrupulous seller. Check their feedback, ask any questions beforehand you might have on returns or refunds if it isn't stated in the auction. Beware new sellers, they have little to risk by not delivering your goods after taking your money.

That said, I haven't had any problems with my purchases, but they were mostly parts and magazines, I have yet to buy a complete firearm off of there.

CoRoMo
October 29, 2010, 04:31 PM
I've bought multiple handguns from GunBroker. I always look for a seller with a record of several hundred, or several thousand positive feedback comments. New sellers are suspicious to me until they get a good record established. Sign up for an account. Don't use a yahoo, hotmail, gmail, or other free web email address when you sign up, if possible, or else they will want $1 from you up front. Then go to that listing, and click BUY IT NOW! The seller will contact you for payment, pay him and tell him where to ship the 1911. Done.


Gunbroker is expensive, you might want to try Gunsamerica.com
Huh? Here's the very pistol that the OP is talking about. $390 delivered.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=198046546

Please link to a less expensive one from GA. All I could find is this one. $430 delivered.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/988035979/Guns/Pistols/1911-Pistol-Copies/ROCK_ISLAND_ARMORY_COMPACT_1911_A1_NE.htm

oneounceload
October 29, 2010, 04:33 PM
Besides GB, you can also look at online forums want-ad sections, Guns America, Auction Arms and a for sale site - Guns International (no auctions)

I have seen decent deals on all of them and shady deals as well. YOU need to know what you are buying, all about it, and make sure you have done your due diligence in asking questions BEFORE you bid and win. There are some unscrupulous folks who use ghost, or phantom, bidders that drive the price up when someone bids on it - beware of those. I have purchased several guns from Auction Arms over the years, and it has gone well, other folks have had issues.

Caveat Emptor

ZeroJunk
October 29, 2010, 05:15 PM
Gunbroker has a buyer protection deal up to $500 I think it is. I have never had any problem buying or selling.

THE DARK KNIGHT
October 29, 2010, 05:27 PM
I have used Gunbroker a few times mainly for accessories and had good experiences. Some sellers are just people so your responses/shipping/service to them may vary, however a lot of dealers on gunbroker are gun shops, pawn shops etc.

Last time I bought something was some 10 round magazines, the seller was a pawn shop in AL, cool guys, they e-mailed me a phone number, I called up, talked to the dude at the counter, he charged my credit card on the phone and I had my package maybe 3-4 days later.

My suggestion would be go on gunbroker and look for the gun you want from a seller who is possibly a gun shop with high feedback.

pro2
October 29, 2010, 07:53 PM
I have had good luck selling and selling on gunbroker.

It is also a good tool for finding out what your item is worth, by saving auctions similar and comparing over "x" amount of time.

If you know how to navigate the sight, you can find some excellent deals and occasional obscure items.

skoro
October 29, 2010, 08:03 PM
Berkshireguns on gunbroker is selling them for $390 shipped.

That's exactly where I got my RIA a year and a half ago. I've made several other purchases from gunbroker and all have been smooth as silk.

Iam2taz
October 29, 2010, 08:05 PM
I too am leary of web auctions...
You know, I like to save money as much as the next guy. But for a few more dollars to work with a local dealer, I would go there. Ask to match the price or come close. If the LGS doesn't want to sell it, you aren't out anything. Walk in with cash and say, "I would like to buy that gun. Here's what I'll give you for it." And just be quiet... Wait and see what he says... CASH speaks louder than credit (and words) a lot of time.

I bought a Luepold Scope at my local dealer for the internet price because I asked...
I too want a 1911... $600 more to go for the one I want.
Just my .02...

joed
October 29, 2010, 08:42 PM
I try to buy local if I can. But some of these places are way to high. If you're talking $100 I don't know but more then that and I'd buy elsewhere.

What scares me about buying off the net is you don't see what you're buying.

clance
October 29, 2010, 09:24 PM
I bought my A.H. Fox on GunBroker.com and didn't have a problem. Like any auction site you need to be wary on who you're dealing with. Check their comment section on how others felt buying from this individual was, of course the more positive feedback the better.

AKElroy
October 29, 2010, 09:42 PM
I have purchased several guns and parts on GB, and my experiences have been positive save one, and I was not out any money on that one, I just didn't recieve what I paid for and had to wait for a refund which I eventually got.

You will pay sales tax if you buy from a seller that resides in your state. I have found that GB is really no cheaper when transfer & shipping is taken into account. I buy some weird stuff, so I use them for stuff I will never find in a store.

Dulvarian
October 29, 2010, 10:00 PM
I agree with w!plash. Talk to the FFL you would ship through, and let him see what he offers. Mine won't bother on some of the deals, he's happy to make the transfer fee. And I send him all the other guys I can. (One LGS is stupid high, and other has a very limited stock, I try to give business to the second when I can though.)

I have had no problems with Gunbroker.

All I do when I want a new gun is just look at something in a shop if I want to, then Google it on my smartphone. If I can buy local within $50 of what I would pay with shipping and the FFL fee, I would buy local. And I laughed out loud at the overpriced LGS when they offered me a $100 off a pair of 1911's, when they were both marked about $250 above reasonable retail. It literally turns my stomach to see the prices in that store. But I did let my wife buy an XD there because the price was only $30 more than the cheapest I could find on Google.

I've never haggled for anything in the states, but I loved doing it overseas. There was an art and a finesse to it. If you knew the actual value, you could get as close to the merchant's profit margin as he would let you go. And I watched other people pay ticket price and walk out, thinking they got a good deal.

And I know there are reviews of online stores in one of the lower sub-forums. Check those out.

FROGO207
October 29, 2010, 10:23 PM
I have bought several, make that a couple dozen firearms and LOTS of brass off Gunbroker. All good people and really good deals. If you need more info ask. Most sellers will provide more pictures and answer anything you want to know that has to do with their item. Yes do look at the feedback and shipping cost/requirements these could cause one to go to another seller due to potential problems. I always set myself a price I will pay on the auction before bidding and never go over that. I loose and another one will start with that item soon enough.:cool:
Happy bidding:D

PRM
October 29, 2010, 10:41 PM
Its an auction site ~ sometimes yes, sometimes no...

My last Gunbroker purchase was a like new Interarms Walther PPK/S SS in .32 ACP for $410.

About $250 cheaper than any retail on it, if you could find a .32. They were kind of a rare item in the Interarms SS.

Prior to that, I bought a CZ83 in .380 that was hand selected by the vendor and in 99% condition for $230. They even sent me pics to see if the gun was acceptable before shipping.

Pick your item, know what your willing to pay, and check the sellers feedback.

A and O
October 29, 2010, 10:44 PM
FFl's in Kalif. collect sales tax on weapons transferred from out of state. They do so according to what you tell them the price is (HINT HINT). Don't know what the law is in Ohio (The OP's state). So you may want to inquire about that before making any bids online.

As far as GunBroker, I've bought three Rifles over the last couple years and have only had stellar experiences. Will start looking for a Handgun sometime this weekend. My Christmas present to myself that will probably be on GB.

content
October 29, 2010, 10:55 PM
Hello friends and neighbors // GB is fine, I've bought items from $35.00 to over $1000.00 with no problem.

A new firearm from a known company shouild be fine to purchase on GB ,IMHO.
Most of the sellers are eager to get or keep an A+ rating to improve their sales.

Know your values or you are taking a greater risk than an impulse buy at a gun show because you can not handle the item.

Judge your risk by the sellers number of transactions, rating, and feedback from purchasers.

I called every ffl in my area asking for $20.00 transfers until I found one.
Good luck with your RIA.

SaxonPig
October 29, 2010, 11:21 PM
I think I have bought about 40 guns on GB. A couple were slightly disappointing but none were awful and all were at my price.

Some examples:

$265 & $135

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$100

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$375 (price those early target stocks all by themselves sometime)

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$81 (even came with a bayonet)

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$177

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$325

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$321

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I could go on but I think that I made my point. Using GB is like shopping anywhere. You have to look for the deals and keep trying.

bhp9mm
October 29, 2010, 11:23 PM
Gunbroker is good i buy most my guns on there and sold a few to they should be no tax other then a transfer fee at your ffl most charge $20 or $30 dollars.

hemiram
October 30, 2010, 03:57 AM
When I'm looking for a gun, I don't even bother looking locally, since the prices are off the deep end anymore, except for the place I transfer through, and another small gun shop, but neither of them has many used guns for sale. Gunbroker is my main source, but I have used Auction arms and GunsAmerica a couple of times. I've yet to have any real problems with any gun, or parts I've bought online.

content
November 3, 2010, 07:21 AM
Hello friends and neighbors // Outstanding snags SaxonPig

I thought my model 28 with the blue paper box, cleaning kit and all paper work for $350 was good.
Your purchases are off the charts as far as deals go.

Nice grips on the 27 as well.

Bubbles
November 3, 2010, 08:20 AM
We've bought and sold guns through gunbroker with no issues.

ultradoc
November 3, 2010, 09:00 AM
I haven't dealt with GB before but I have dealt with armslist.com. another nice one is gunlistings.org

rbernie
November 3, 2010, 09:05 AM
I have bought and sold dozens of firearms and hundreds of firearm parts and accessories on AuctionArms and GunBroker. I had some initial issues with GunBroker some years back - they really didn't do much to keep fraudulent sellers from screwing potential buyers and actively punished anyone making a stink about it - but my more recent experiences with sellers on their site have all been positive. Of the online firearms auction sites, I still favor AuctionArms for their more balanced approach to dealing with transaction problems, but GunBroker clearly has more items listed and is hard to resist.

Be sure to factor in shipping and transfer fees before deciding what an item is worth, when buying from any Internet auction/ad site. Shipping is commonly $25-$40 and transfer fees similarly priced. That means that, on average, your out-the-door price will be $50-$80 more than the actual closing price of the auction....

Guns and more
November 3, 2010, 12:12 PM
I've never had a problem with anything I've bought on Gunbroker.
I set a top price and I don't go one penny over it.
Don't get into the mindset of "I won" or "I lost".

Sellers only charge sales tax if you live in the seller's state. Read the seller's rules, how he is to be paid, how much for shipping to your FFL, etc. (before you buy)

If I am the high bidder, I e-mail the seller immediately, tell him what I'm going to do (USPS money order, etc.) and then I follow through promptly.

If I am not the high bidder, I start looking for another one. There's always another one around the corner. Don't feel bad, move on.

Gunbroker is expensive, you might want to try Gunsamerica.com

??? There is no charge for the buyer. If you mean a lot of folks bid on Gunbroker, maybe, and why's that? Because they have what you want. Thus, the sellers with the best items will gravitate to Gunbroker.

My LGS, nice folks, small selection, sells a bunch of guns on Gunbroker, so don't feel sorry for your LGS. Plus the LGS gets the $30 for the FFL transfer.
That means that, on average, your out-the-door price will be $50-$80 more than the actual closing price of the auction....
True. But I have always found the extra cost is more than offset by the savings in sales tax, and the high price in the LGS.

I'd also recommend looking at Davidson's through a LGS. They sell new, and are a good gauge of price.

HKrazy
November 3, 2010, 12:44 PM
Many people have a valid concern about not being able to handle the merchandise prior to buying it. Obviously, if the item is NIB (New In Box) this is less of a concern but, with used items, don't be afraid to ask questions and for more photos. Interacting with the seller before the sale can give you a hint of what kind of person you are dealing with. Also, many items come with an inspection period where, if you are not satisfied, you can send it back. Of course you are out the cost of shipping both ways and if it is a firearm, be sure to inspect and decide before you do the transfer paperwork. If the item does not say it comes with an inspection period again, contact the seller and ask for one. Remember, they are trying to sell you something so, most will agree to reasonable requests and if they don't, pass and keep looking.

If you want deals like the previous poster found, it takes a little effort. They aren't just going to drop in your lap. I've seen auctions where you have two of the same guns, in similar condition and one will go for a stupid price one day and the other, a great price, a day or two later, or the other way around.

With a few exceptions, most of the sellers I have dealt with on GunBroker are good down to earth people and they handled the transition in a friendly and courteous manner and wanted me to be happy with my purchase. I've also dealt with a couple of jerks. That is the thing with any kind of auction, there is a certain element of risk but, the reward is, on the whole, GunBroker has allowed me to buy guns of types and quality that I almost never, if ever, see at a gun show or in a local gun store and at some decent prices. Overall, it is a very useful tool but, it is not perfect. You have to use your head.

Flynt
November 3, 2010, 01:04 PM
I have bought a lot of firearms online. I've had good luck with GB, AuctionArms, and GunsAmerica. I've also found good deals and really nice sellers in classified sections such as THR and Marlinowners.

In 99.99% of the time the sellers have accurately described the guns -- or the guns have been better than described. You do need to understand the gun you're looking at so as to ask intelligent questions.

When it comes down to it, for me it's a matter of economics. I try to buy all big ticket items, say $100 and up, online -- solely because of the sales tax. I have bought high end camera gear, boots, clothes, a nice gas grill, etc. online when the total netted out to be less than a local purchase. We bought a new, large flalt screen Sony TV 3 years ago for about $2,800, and with the break in sales tax and local delivery charges, saved about $1k.

I've been burned once, on a camera lens from ebay, but they got half of my money back.

Rshooter
November 3, 2010, 01:21 PM
I have bought a shotgun from AuctionArms and a rifle from Gunbroker. I have also sold some stocks on Gunbroker. Check the pictures and request more if necessary and do your due diligence by checking on feedback.

Steve 48
November 3, 2010, 06:16 PM
I bought 12 guns through Gunbrocker at prices I could not pay here. They were all as described. Gunbrocker is a good organization.

stchman
November 3, 2010, 08:41 PM
Gunbroker is not a bad thing, people just seem to want to charge outrageous amounts for their firearms that they list on there.

I don't know what some people are thinking, do they really believe that the mere fact they owned a particular firearm increases that particular firearm's value 40%?

Big thing about Gunbroker is you just have to search for the deals. They are there.

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