Grain weight for .30-06 and Deer


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usmarine0352_2005
November 2, 2010, 01:42 AM
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I'm deer hunting with my new deer rifle in .30-06 and want to use Winchester Powermax bullets.


They sell them in 150gr. and 180gr.


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f191/usmarine0352/Powermax.jpg



However, no one seems to have the 180gr ones in stock. I'm hunting larger bodied deer in Minnesota.



Will 150gr. be enough?

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HOOfan_1
November 2, 2010, 02:04 AM
unless the deer have found a way to crossbreed with moose, yeah. 150 grains is more than enough

usmarine0352_2005
November 2, 2010, 02:21 AM
unless the deer have found a way to crossbreed with moose, yeah. 150 grains is more than enough




Do you need 180gr. for elk and moose?

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bpl
November 2, 2010, 04:31 AM
180gr would be preferred for elk or moose by most. 150gr is plenty for any deer. I like 165gr in the 30-06 myself though.

interlock
November 2, 2010, 06:08 AM
150 gr is perfectly sufficient for deer. i use 165gr because i think that is the optimum for .30-06

natman
November 2, 2010, 06:26 AM
The 150 grain looks like an excellent deer load. Save the 180s for elk and moose.

Smith357
November 2, 2010, 07:36 AM
I use 165 in my 06, but that's because it's what the rifle likes, in my particular rifle the 150s give me a 2 inch group at 100 whereas the 165s are right at 1moa.

Nautilus
November 2, 2010, 08:08 AM
I use 180gr only because my rifle seems to prefer them. The 180's & 150's are normally the same price and both will be more than effective on deer so I would buy a box of both and see which one your rifle shoots better.

ElPasoWrangler
November 2, 2010, 08:53 AM
I standardized on Federal 180 45 years ago and nothing I have shot since ever complained about it being too big. They just all fall over dead once shot. Now 215 grain bullets would be for bears.

NCsmitty
November 2, 2010, 08:58 AM
That ammo, using a bonded bullet, will take the worry out of being close. Some of the lighter jacket, non-bonded 150gr bullets offered, can fragment at close range with '06 velocities.

I would feel confident using the PowerMax ammo on any of the game mentioned.

It's always about proper bullet construction for the game being hunted.

Hopefully, that ammo will prove accurate in your firearm.



NCsmitty

JShirley
November 2, 2010, 09:46 AM
Yes, what NCSmitty said. Old school SPs at close range, the heavier bullet would be preferable. Bonded? Either.

John

Art Eatman
November 2, 2010, 10:59 AM
My father used 150-grain Hornady bullets, loaded to GI specs. That worked for somewhere over a hundred deer over a forty or so year period. A fair number field dressed around 200 pounds. In front of witnesses, kills to around 500 yards (his "ego thing").

HKGuns
November 2, 2010, 11:02 AM
150

Geno
November 2, 2010, 12:26 PM
I like the 165 grain, spire point, boattail projectile, and loaded to 3,100 FPS. The energy rivals the .300 Win Mag to 500 yards. The higher ballistic coefficient assures retained energy over a 150 grain in distances of 300 to 500 yards. Since I hunt the bean fields, I am pretty much assured of shots in exactly that distance. At closer ranges, say 50 yards to 100 yards, select a 165 grain projectile that is designed to remain intact during penetration.

Geno

300grains
November 2, 2010, 12:29 PM
150gr is enough, but still I would prefer to use 180 gr.

jmr40
November 2, 2010, 12:59 PM
Use the one that's most accurate in your rifle. The 150's are enough, but my 30-06 rifles seem to shoot 165's more accurately than any other weight. The 180's wouldn't be too much as long as they shoot well in your gun.

Arizonagunrunner
November 2, 2010, 01:15 PM
Save the 180's for the big stuff. The 150's are more then plenty to down a deer. I would use the Remington Core Lokts myself. Tried and true. Out to 300 yards...... They will drop a deer like swatting a fly.
No need fort the fancy stuff. All you will be doing is throwing away good money.

usmarine0352_2005
November 2, 2010, 03:49 PM
Save the 180's for the big stuff. The 150's are more then plenty to down a deer. I would use the Remington Core Lokts myself. Tried and true. Out to 300 yards...... They will drop a deer like swatting a fly.
No need fort the fancy stuff. All you will be doing is throwing away good money.



When I went to Gander they were all out of the Powermax's, in fact it looks like they don't even carry them anymore.


I ended up getting Remington Core Lokts in 180gr. and just saw your post. I actually just read all of the posts after I bought my ammo.


I was wondering if the Remington Core Lokts were any good.

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JShirley
November 2, 2010, 04:33 PM
My buddy Byron Quick stopped using .300 Mag 150-grain Core-Lokts after seeing the mess they made of deer at closer distances. A little higher velocity than .30-06, but, fwiw.

John

smartshot
November 2, 2010, 05:11 PM
open country-150, woods/timber-180, get the most wallop for your caliber at the desired yardage

bpl
November 2, 2010, 05:31 PM
stopped using 150-grain Core-Lokts after seeing the mess they made of deer at closer distances. A little higher velocity than .30-06, but, fwiw.



300 Win Mag? Yeh, the Corelokts are not designed for the hypervelocity short range impacts, especially the lighter ones. My buddy had the same problem with his 7mm rem mag.

Water-Man
November 2, 2010, 05:34 PM
150gr. is more than enough.

Coal Dragger
November 2, 2010, 05:39 PM
A good 150gr bullet is more than enough for deer, in fact a .30 caliber 150gr bullet with bonded core construction or something along the lines of a Barnes expanding copper solid will do for elk, moose, and black bear.

USSR
November 2, 2010, 06:57 PM
Deer aren't tough to kill, so a particular weight of bullet isn't all that important. I use the Hornady 178gr Amax bullet.

Don

NCsmitty
November 2, 2010, 07:05 PM
I ended up getting Remington Core Lokts in 180gr.

I was wondering if the Remington Core Lokts were any good.

180gr Core-lokt's will absolutely do the job, as long as your rifle likes them.



NCsmitty

d2wing
November 3, 2010, 08:52 PM
Many big Minnesota deer have fallen hit by my '06, and many by lighter rounds than 150 gr. 150 gr. is more than enough if you can hit them in the vitals.

Frozen North
November 3, 2010, 09:15 PM
150 is plenty.

Arkansas Paul
November 3, 2010, 09:20 PM
I was wondering if the Remington Core Lokts were any good.


This 165 grain Core Lokt was taken out of a 6 point whitetail, shot quartering away at about 150-175 yards. The bullet entered at the shoulder and travelled almost the length of the body before coming to a rest just under the skin in front of the off side hindquarter. It mushroomed perfectly and held together well, just like it's supposed to do.


http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac223/prgann/023.jpg

dougwx12
November 3, 2010, 10:18 PM
For deer, any bullet not labeled "varmint" will work, regardless of weight. A 110 TSX would more than get it done.

skipbo32
November 3, 2010, 10:57 PM
150 grain will drop a deer with some left over. do it.

Oceans
November 4, 2010, 01:30 PM
A benefit to the 150 is there is less recoil involved when sighting in and practicing, though with only 2 boxes I don't know how important that factor is. A 150 grain will have a flatter trajectory to around 300 yards, which is really all the distance you want to ethically take game like that at.

Vern Humphrey
November 4, 2010, 01:39 PM
Do you need 180gr. for elk and moose?
150 gr is perfectly sufficient for deer. i use 165gr because i think that is the optimum for .30-06
The 150 grain bullet is ideal for deer -- in fact, for years I used a down-loaded round for deer, a 150 grain bullet at around 2600 fps.

The 165 grain bullet is close to perfectly balanced for the .30-06. In terms of efficiency and termimal performance, it will do what either the 150 grain or 180 grain bullets will do -- assuming proper construction.

With modern premium bullets, there is a trend toward lighter weights. In .30-06, I wouldn't hesitate to use a 150-grain Barnes-X bullet or similar premium load on elk.

06lover
November 4, 2010, 01:54 PM
they'll all do the job well enough.
shoot the one that is most accurate in your rifle.

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