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Balrog
November 4, 2010, 05:52 PM
What currently produced production rifles have the best out of the box accuracy?

I am not talking about custom guns, just production rifles.

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kludge
November 4, 2010, 05:56 PM
Price limit?

Balrog
November 4, 2010, 06:19 PM
Well, I am talking production rifles from major manufacturers, not custom or boutique guns. Say $800 or less.

chunk
November 4, 2010, 06:45 PM
savage w/accu trigger

NCsmitty
November 4, 2010, 07:00 PM
Few production rifles guarantee accuracy in their literature. I don't believe Savage does, but I may be wrong.
I know that the TC Venture and certain versions of Howa guarantee a 1" 3 shot group with factory ammo. I think they sell for under $500 too.
There maybe others that I'm not aware of.



NCsmitty

TonyAngel
November 4, 2010, 07:20 PM
Everyone that I know with a Remington 700 in some flavor of tactical or varmint model can get sub MOA out of their rifles. I recently got into bolt guns and since having gotten into them, I've been taking note. What I've seen is that they all shoot good.

The Savages are arguably more accurate, due to the design of the bolt, but Remington bolts can be doctored up. Remingtons are arguably stronger, due to the design of the bolt. I don't know first hand, but I've also been told that you can't bed a Savage stock due to the way it is inletted. I don't know if it's true, but perhaps something to check on. On the other hand, the same guy told me that you really don't need to bed a Savage stock because you can get super good results by just fiddling with the amount of torque that you put on the action screws. Find what it likes and use a torque wrench to repeat.

Since I got a Remington that shoots really well, I'll say Remington. In the end, you'd probably be happy with either a Savage or Remington. I do know a guy that regularly shoots on the same days that I do at the range and he has gotten to be a Savage freak. Every other week he has a new Savage telling me about the deal that he got on gunbroker on the used rifle. He swears that they shoot as well as any custom job he's ever had. Of course, they are all heavy barrel models.

If you're on a tight budget, check out the Stevens rifles. I hear that they are great shooters.

Geno
November 4, 2010, 07:30 PM
The M700 Police will factory test at 0.50 groups. While I payed $899.00 for mine, others around here recently have purchased theirs for the range of $799. :banghead:

Geno

stormspotter
November 4, 2010, 08:18 PM
Tikka T3.

David Sours
November 4, 2010, 09:08 PM
I have two bolt guns that will shoot sub MOA with hand loands the first is a Browning A-Bolt in 280.

My most accurate gun that I own is a T/C Icon Precision Hunter in 243. Shooting the Berger 95gr VLD this gun is SUB MOA all day long. I can not say enough good things about my ICON I have been very pleased and would buy it again in a heart beat. Also I believe when I bought my gun last year with the T/C rebate I was right around the 800.00 mark.

David

JDMorris
November 4, 2010, 09:11 PM
My 600 dollar after a nice bipod Howa M-1500 standard barrel .308 has shot some sub .5 inch 3 shots groups at 100 yards and the 5 shot average is .75 now.

smartshot
November 4, 2010, 09:16 PM
you can't go wrong with any of the newer guns (mossberg, marlin, savage) that have the "glock-like" triggers, making them very accurate. Not saying their barrels are better than any of the remingtons or brownings, in fact theyre probably not better, but the light trigger pulls make them easier to shoot well. My mossberg was 300.00 with store rebate and shot 3/4 inch groups, 3 shot out of the box (with my older handloads of course).

savage116
November 4, 2010, 09:28 PM
I've had good luck with Savages with the accu-trigger and also Tikka T3. I savage in 30-06 and tikka in 300 win mag.

kludge
November 4, 2010, 10:33 PM
Well, I am talking production rifles from major manufacturers, not custom or boutique guns. Say $800 or less.

OK, but Savage and Remington both make production rifle for three times that amount, which is why I asked for a price limit.

For $800 or less I would go with a Savage or a Remington.

VAhuntr
November 4, 2010, 10:41 PM
My T/C Icon in .308 Winchester came with a factory test target of .32....after the factory rebate I have $399 in the rifle. It is shooting factory Federal 150 grain Powershoks just a hair under an inch at 100 yards.

While it does not have an accuracy guarantee that I'm aware of, I have a Browning X-Bolt in .270 Winchester that is a tack driver. It loves 130 and 140 grain SST's.

viking499
November 4, 2010, 10:44 PM
CZ, Tikka, TC, Winchester, Savage, etc, etc, etc........

All have good accurate guns. Some shoot better than others. You can always get a "lemon" in every group. I have seen Stevens 200's shoot .5" fresh out of the box.

BrocLuno
November 4, 2010, 10:44 PM
Tikka or used Weatherby :)

grtwhthntr
November 4, 2010, 10:48 PM
Savage w/ accu-trigger and T/C Venture are the guns I have that shoot exceptional groups.

bjl333
November 4, 2010, 10:49 PM
I have pretty consistantly gotten a 1/2" - 3/4" 5-shot 100 yds group out of my Savage 10FP 223. I have an old Weaver V16 on her and for the last 8 years she'll give me those groups if I do my part. I just got a Remmy SPS-V and I put a Choate Tactical stock on her already. I haven't shot the gun yet, but I couldn't tell you how the stock gun would've shot. I'll post back next week with the 308 groups. I have heard good things about the Tikka, but no experience,

viking499
November 4, 2010, 10:50 PM
Any particular caliber in mind?

grtwhthntr, what caliber is your Venture?

grtwhthntr
November 4, 2010, 11:30 PM
VIKING, my Venture is in .243.

jpwilly
November 4, 2010, 11:43 PM
What currently produced production rifles have the best out of the box accuracy?

Most of the major brands have examples that shoot very well while the next one off the line may not. Pick one that has the features you like, quality you can live with, and take your chances.

TexasPatriot.308
November 4, 2010, 11:44 PM
Savage/Stevens 200 and the Tikka T3, I know, I own em

popeyespappy
November 4, 2010, 11:56 PM
It would probably be hard to beat a Savage 12 for out of the box accuracy. Buds has the 12 FCV varminter with accutrigger and accustock for $639 delivered. My 12 LRPV 223 shot this sub ” five shot group at 104 yards using 80 grain Sierra Match Kings last time I had it at the range.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/popeyespappy/Targets/80smk1.jpg

DeepSouth
November 5, 2010, 12:30 AM
A good friend of mine bought a new Rem 700 CDL roughly 3 months ago. I have seen it shoot several 100 yard 3 shot groups that you could cover with a dime. It's a 25-06.

I would buy the M700 Police mentioned earlier, for the money they will be hard to beat.

TonyAngel
November 5, 2010, 01:36 AM
I shot this with my box stock Remington SPS tactical. I paid $600 for it out the door.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s265/ajangelettejr/Groups/DSC_0007-1.jpg

Kachok
November 5, 2010, 02:10 PM
Depends on how much weight you want to lug around. If you don't mind carrying 12+lbs around the Savage 12 FV is the be all end all of accuracy Chuck Hawks reported that is was the mmost accurate rifle they have ever tested with it's .25" groups at 100 yards!! If you want something much lighter and more pratical the Tikka T3 is KING! It is a featherweight at only 6.4 lbs! It has the smoothest action anywhere at any price. They promise 1" groups or better @100 yds (mine will do .75" with any ammo) They are compact with their 22" barrel, and to top it all off they cost less then some "bargin" rifles. I got my T3 Light Stainless for $408 NEW!!! If you want somthing in between the 12 FV and the T3 weight wise the Weatherby SUB-MOA Rocks!!! Other rifles that deserve honorable mention for accuracy are the X-Bolt, Rem 700s (X-Mark trigger is very good), and the TC Icon.

brettrow
November 5, 2010, 02:32 PM
if you dont mind spending a tad more (900-950) the winchester model 70 extreme weather ss says in its online add that it shoots 1 inch moa. Mine shoots better than that in the .270 (.25-.75)

jimmyraythomason
November 5, 2010, 02:55 PM
What currently produced production rifles have the best out of the box accuracy? No price range necessary for that question. The first 3 rounds ever from my Stevens Model 200 in .223 rem. made one hole @ 100 yards with Prvi Partisan 75gr match ammo.

K31Scout
November 5, 2010, 08:20 PM
Investigate the Marlin XL7 or XS7 series of bolt actions. They have solid pillar bedded stocks, accu type trigger, the bolt head is like the Savages as well as the barrel nut head spacing thing. They look more like Remington 700's and they have excellent recoil pads. They can be had for less than $300.

JDMorris
November 5, 2010, 08:24 PM
Howa M-1500
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz354/TEHLEGITGUY/sniper%20rifle/1030002330.jpg
100 yards with Hornady 165 grain softpoint. .75 MOA
heres the gun...
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz354/TEHLEGITGUY/sniper%20rifle/downsized_1101001138.jpg
heres another sub mintute group.
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz354/TEHLEGITGUY/sniper%20rifle/1102002031a.jpg

PowerG
November 5, 2010, 08:24 PM
In my experience, the M700.

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