Most accurate budget 22LR


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Kachok
November 7, 2010, 10:12 PM
My gun case is feeling bare without having a 22 in it. I want one for small game hunting and target practice. I prize practical accuracy over all. Tight shot groups and a good triger are key, however I need to stick to my budget and would like to find one for under $300. Does anyone have any recomendations? I have had good luck with Marlins and Savage rimfires in the past.

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PurpleProwess
November 7, 2010, 10:15 PM
Ruger 10/22. Semi-Automatic, very accurate rifle recently i hit a target (Basically for S&G's) from 300 yards, no real grouping but from that range out of 10 shots 8 of them were on a 16" target. Also i like the Ruger because of the 10 round rotary magazine.

I just got one for $220.

Be warned though, you might want to look for an older one. The new ones have plastic trigger assemblies, and barrel bands. The receiver seems to be made out of aluminum.


It is also a rifle that has tons of aftermarket parts available, barrels stocks, trigger assemblies, magazines, and so-on.


~PP~

viking499
November 7, 2010, 10:18 PM
Marlin 60
10/22
or...........if you look around like I did, You can find a like new CZ 452 for under 3 bills...:D

NCsmitty
November 7, 2010, 10:33 PM
I have had good luck with Marlins and Savage rimfires in the past.

I see no reason for you to change, they are still accurate and reliable. I just encourage you to buy American made.



NCsmitty

Quoheleth
November 7, 2010, 10:34 PM
Any Marlin .22 will be a great investment. Slap a good scope on it and you're good to go. My old (pre-SN) bolt action, tube-fed Western Auto-label, topped with an equally old Weaver K4, can hit clay pidgeons at the 200 yard berm without problems. No one believed me until I showed them --- and with Federal Bulk Pak, too!

My stainless Ruger 77/22 has a better trigger but even at 6x the price (I paid $50 for the old Marlin at an auction and $300 for the Ruger, used) it can't outshoot the Marlin.

I did have a Remington 597 that shot very well. Paid about $150 at Academy for a gun/scope kit. Sold it to a kid at church to finance the Ruger. If I find one at a good price, used, I would jump on it just to have a semiauto .22 rifle in the stable again.

Q

G27RR
November 7, 2010, 10:46 PM
Marlin 795 or 60, or Savage Mark II would be my choices for out of the box accuracy at good prices.

Ifishsum
November 7, 2010, 11:13 PM
For a bolt action .22 - Savage MKII or CZ
Semi-auto - Remington 597 or a Marlin M60. Aftermarket hammer will greatly improve trigger pull

Whatever you choose, don't expect it to shoot great with cheap bulk pack ammo. It may do well, but .22s can be notoriously picky about which ammo they will shoot well. It pays to try several different brands/loads.

HOOfan_1
November 8, 2010, 12:36 AM
CZ 513 Basic

22-rimfire
November 8, 2010, 07:40 AM
Marlin 795 or 60, or Savage Mark II would be my choices for out of the box accuracy at good prices.

That would be my suggestion as well.

jsimmons
November 8, 2010, 09:34 AM
If you want accuracy, get a bolt gun. Someone else already suggested a CZ-452. I have one, and they are very accurate. At the same time, I have a Henry H001T lever action, and after replacing the sights, it's just as accurate as the CZ. I also have a S&W M&P15-22 AR-style rifle, and with the factory iron sights and trigger, it's almost as accurate as the other two rifles. It might be just as accurate, but I haven't had a scope on it yet because I won't have the right kind of rings until UPS gets here today.

None of the rifles I've described have given me a single issue (and I used the first two for silhouette competition). I can't speak to the other rifles mentioned, but I think it comes down to what you like the best and what works for you.

Things to consider are the action (semi-auto, bolt, or lever), the type of magazine (tube or standard box type), and what kind of sights are on it. Once you think you've picked the gun you want, check the net for reliability issues and accuracy enhancement tips (trigger adjustments, sights, etc).

I think the most configurable .22 out there is the Ruger 10-22. You can literally make it anything you want it to be.

Finally, use quality ammo if you're after accuracy. And remember that before sighting in, fire at least 20 rounds of a given brand/type of ammo. It takes that long to season the barrel to the ammo. Buy 100 rounds of four our five brands and types of ammo (you can start with locally available wal-mart stuff to keep the prices low, but don't expect really good results with bulk ammo), and take your cleaning kit to the range with you. It's going to take you a few hours to find the ammo the gun likes to shoot. Clean your bore and chamber between ammo brands so as not to dilute the results. Take copious notes.

In my experience, Federal Auto Match is decent, CCI Mini-Mags work well (and both are available at Wal-mart), and so does Wolf and Ely (probably have to buy those online).

I lobve getting a new rifle because I get to shoot a lot more often to find ammo it likes. :)

butcherboy
November 8, 2010, 11:49 AM
my opinion: if you want a good after market parts and service i would suggest ruger 10/22, nothing beets a 25 or 50 round drum. its fun and great at the range.

that being said, for hunting nothing beats a marlin single shot. or any marlin bolt action .22.
i use a marlin/glenfield model 100G from the 1960's for deer and small game and it can consistantly shoot tight groups at 100yds. ( i work at a deer farm so its legal to use a .22) i know single shots are not as fun, but when hunting i like a shot that counts, not 10 or more that are close.

in my area ( upstate ny) i see alot of used rugers and marlin at the local shops. usually just need a good cleaning and your good to go.

i would avoid a Mossber 702 at all costs, dont let the price fool you.

i had a ruger 10/22 carbine that i would cover a 4inch circle at 100yds, so i traded it for a 7.62x54.

also keep in mind, if you dont like the ruger for some reason, people are always looking to buy them.

desidog
November 8, 2010, 12:16 PM
Be warned though, you might want to look for an older one. The new ones have plastic trigger assemblies, and barrel bands. The receiver seems to be made out of aluminum.

That's what i thought til i got another...and my opinion changed. The New ones with the polymer trigger housing are much tighter, and have a much better factory trigger, than the older metal-trigger guard models.

I use my 10/22's mainly, a couple are all tricked out and very decent accuracy...but FWIW, my old garage sale 25 dollar Marlin 99 with an 19" bbl (IIRC) and missing half the screws on the rifle will outshoot the bull-barreled 10/22.

BushyGuy
November 8, 2010, 12:43 PM
Ruger 10/22 are great .22lr, i own a Savage model 62 (Stevens) Semi- auto, i bought at wally world for $129.00 after taxes, i have it topped with a 3-7x20 scope, i get decent accuracy out to 100 yards.

Deus Machina
November 8, 2010, 01:10 PM
My Marlin Model 60 is nothing to sneeze at. Nice accurate semi.

My Savage Mark 2 is almost boringly accurate, though. $25/500 Winchester Dynapoints go into the same hole on the 25 yard pistol range, with the iron sights and my bad eyes.

I'm almost afraid of what it will do now that I got my 3-9x scope on it.

PurpleProwess
November 8, 2010, 02:56 PM
That's what i thought til i got another...and my opinion changed. The New ones with the polymer trigger housing are much tighter, and have a much better factory trigger, than the older metal-trigger guard models.
I love mine to, and really it never bothered me i took a little flak from other people, but the trigger is a part that isn't going to get abused or something that is involved with the round, so i never really got the big deal. Everything involving the round is still metal.

Just had to put it out there some people do not like it.

~PP~

ForumSurfer
November 8, 2010, 03:06 PM
I have two marlin 60's that you couldn't pry away from me. One scoped, the other with open sights. Very accurate. I would like a lighter trigger, but they work just fine. The tube feeding doesn't bother me, because I never have feeding issues (except for when the darn things are squeaky clean, they like to be a little dirty). Grab one and go, snake the barrel and put it away. I may go as far as 1000 or more rounds before I clean the action. I just clean the action when the action is visibly cruddy and the bolt makes a slightly different sound.

For $300, though...I might try a savage. Better quality and better trigger for what I hear. But $300 will get you a new or used used 60, a whole boatload of ammo and a good scope or a set of williams fire sights/peep sights with money to spare. It's hard to argue that.

I like 10/22's, they're fun to tinker on and modify. But I like my marlin 60's because they're a good, all around go-to gun. Squirrel fear mine.

SpeedAKL
November 8, 2010, 03:49 PM
I have a Savage Mark IIBV, it has outstanding repeatable accuracy and cost me less than $200.

teirst
November 8, 2010, 04:00 PM
semi auto
clip=marlin 795
tube=60

bolt
Savage mark II

BrocLuno
November 8, 2010, 04:07 PM
Remington 513T or 40X or any of the older Winchester Model 52's or newer Model 75's. As accurate as you can likely afford. Mossberg M44 is also a killer accurate rifle :)

SwampWolf
November 8, 2010, 06:01 PM
I've got a very accurate Remington Model 504. If you can still find one (they've been discontinued-some say the barrels on some specimans are suspect) for around $400.00 or so, I think they are nice little .22 sporter rifles. CZ also makes a line of affordable, accurate and reliable .22 sporter rifles.

Onmilo
November 8, 2010, 06:25 PM
For a budget rifle, the Marlin 60s and 795s are hard to beat.
After 30 years of selling and working on them, I finally broke down and bought a Model 60.
With Marlin factory rebate going on right now, you can buy a brand new box magazine fed Model 795 for about a hundred bucks.
My Model 60 is showing itself to be more accurate than any of the six or seven 10/22s that I have owned over the years.

Savage Bolt action rifles have a very good and well deserved reputation for excellent accuracy at a decent price if yiou want to go that route. HTH

FlyinBryan
November 8, 2010, 06:58 PM
my only 22 semi is the ruger 1022.

for accuracy on a budget there are probably better choices like the model 60. i hear they are quite accurate for the $$$

as long as you dont buy it thinking it will shoot with the quality bolt guns or modded 1022's, then you will be happy with it (in my opinion)

Caliper_RWVA
November 8, 2010, 07:27 PM
The most accurate .22's I have are also the least expensive. A used Marlin 60 for and a Romanian M69. Both will do 1.5 MOA or a bit under with CCI Blazer (for the Marlin) and Remington Subsonics (for the Romanian).

HKGuns
November 8, 2010, 07:27 PM
Ruger 10/22 is the defacto standard .22 caliber autoloader. It is the one I own.

jhansman
November 8, 2010, 10:58 PM
Another vote for the CZ. If you can bump your budget to $400, you can get one of the most accurate bolt 22LR rifles made in the model 452.

akolleth
November 9, 2010, 10:17 AM
Another vote for the Marlin 60

Bought mine for $50 OTD at a gun show and its a tack driver to say the least.

Furncliff
November 9, 2010, 01:27 PM
Another vote for Marlin 60. I try to shoot twice a week. The two rifles that get the most use are a Bruno #1 (the CZ452's daddy) and a Marlin 60. I am always amazed that the Marlin can keep right up with the Bruno. My M60 cost $150, add a scope and you're all set.

mgmorden
November 9, 2010, 03:01 PM
Marlin Model 60. I've got both that and a Ruger 10/22. Though I enjoy shooting both, in the accuracy department for a STOCK gun the 60 shoots circles inside of the 10/22 (circles around it didn't seem to be appropriate in this context :D). If you're wanting to go all out with aftermarket stuff you probably have more room to MAKE the 10/22 more accurate, but I don't regard their stock accuracy all that highly.

benzy2
November 9, 2010, 03:21 PM
In the under $300 price range with accuracy being the biggest key and trigger quality a close second I would suggest the Savage Mk II first, then the Marlin 795 (or whatever the number of their bolt action 22lr) second but with a rifle basix trigger. I personally feel like the Marlin rifles have just ever so slightly better barrels, but the stock trigger is bad. With new springs it gets a bit better, but still not good. Toss in an aftermarket trigger and it gets real good. The Savage has a good trigger out of the box and is ready to go. I like the CZ line more than either the Savage or the Marlin, but they tend to run above the $300 price point. From there get whatever stock you like and fits the budget. Great shooting rifles at a real good price.

22-rimfire
November 9, 2010, 05:29 PM
Another possibility is the CZ 452 Trainer. I believe they run around $300 new these days.

MrWesson
November 9, 2010, 06:29 PM
10/22's can be made accurate but are far from it out of the box.

The model 60 is more accurate and IMO a better gun than the 10/22 unless you mod.

My vote goes for a bolt action .22 from CZ unless you have to have a autoloader bolt actions are usually more accurate.

Maverick223
November 9, 2010, 07:58 PM
I have had good luck with Marlins and Savage rimfires in the past.
I see no reason for you to change, they are still accurate and reliable.+1, a Marlin M-60 or Savage Mk. II should serve you...your kids...and your kids, kids...well. I'd give the Savage an edge in both trigger quality (even the non-Accutrigger models) and overall accuracy...but the Marlin isn't bad, and it can sure pump out the rounds faster.

:)

Bill B.
November 9, 2010, 08:30 PM
How about an old Mossberg? I prefer those with a bolt but the autos shoot well also.

Onmilo
November 10, 2010, 10:01 AM
Mossberg rifles used to be great bargains.
Now they have almost all fallen into the realm of collectable/shootable and values on the guns have risen pretty high.
http://www.fototime.com/481A19B737E1FC2/standard.jpg

I bought this M44US from the CMP several years ago.
Cost was $75 + shipping $10, had to buy a magazine and a trigger guard +$12&$12=$24 so total was $109 and I thought I got hosed on the deal.

These rifles now sell for $250 and up as do most other Mossbergs now.
Great guns but no bargains for sure.

SwampWolf
November 10, 2010, 02:06 PM
These rifles now sell for $250 and up as do most other Mossbergs now.
Great guns but no bargains for sure.

I'm not so sure about that. Where else can you buy a .22 rifle made anywhere near as well as the older Mossbergs for $250.00 or so? :scrutiny:

mstirton
November 10, 2010, 02:40 PM
+1 Marlin 795 with tech sights, extra mags, and Marlin rebate set be back under $200. I ring the 8" steel @ 100 yards pretty easily with cheap bulk Federal.

My favorite .22 is the CZ453varmint, but the Marlin is a much better fit for a low budget gun.

skoro
November 10, 2010, 03:35 PM
The Savage MarkII BV is a real nice shooter with a heavy barrel, laminated wood stock and Accu-trigger. Mount a decent rimfire scope on it and you'll have yourself a fine .22 that will suit your purposes very well.

Jonny V
November 10, 2010, 07:23 PM
I have a Remington 597 stainless that has been very accurate for me. It didn't cost a lot either, and there are starting to be more and more parts and aftermarket stuff for it too. Not as much stuff as the 10/22, but if I'd wanted a Ruger, I would have bought one.

THE MOST ACCURATE 22 I have is a Premier Single Shot 22 from the 1920's or early 1930's. Single shot bolt action with the little plunger you pull out to cock it. The metal work appears browned rather than blued, and the stock was broken by my grandfather as he finished off a rabbit that didn't succumb to his last bullet. It will shoot rings around any of these newer 22's, and you can find them for $100 or so on any of the auction sites...:)

69Falcon
November 10, 2010, 10:22 PM
I have a Marlin 925 bolt action, and it's served me well. While the bolt action Marlin rimfires might not be as nice as the CZs, they are substantially less expensive and certainly worth the money.

Never fired a newer Savage, but they're supposed to be really nice too.

MYREDTAIL
November 11, 2010, 01:23 AM
I love my Rem Nylon 66 that I bought NIB in 1977 & it has served me well & it still does for either Woodchucks, Rabbits & any other small game that get's in it's way along with some either CCI Stingers or Rem Yellow Jackets.

exdetsgt
December 3, 2010, 11:36 PM
I'm not sure what my newest rifle is. I friend gave it to me, no stock, just the barrel and innards. On the barrel it says,

"Savage Arms, West Point, Westfield, Mass. USA Model 487T Series A
Cal. .22 Long Rifle." Serial number is B919863.

It was a real mess, rust, action inoperable, no stock, etc. I dismantled it, cleaned it with acetone, buffed it, lubed it with Break Free, cold blued it, found a stock for it, and now it seems like it's ready to shoot.

Does anyone have clue when this rifle was made?

HGM22
December 4, 2010, 12:10 AM
I have a Ruger 10/22 and Marlin 795, and the Marlin easily outshoots the Ruger (also half the price).

Arkansas Paul
December 4, 2010, 12:45 AM
Marlin model 60. Mine has a 4x32 Nikon ProStaff and it's great. Gun and scope, less than $250. It's very accurate as well.

Spec ops Grunt
December 4, 2010, 02:32 AM
My Marlin 795 is damn accurate, moreso when my brother is using it.

Eb1
December 4, 2010, 02:40 AM
Marlin Model 60

Hands down the most accurate off the shelf .22 LR. Even more so when you lighten the trigger and some other little tricks. I get nickle to quarter size 5 and 10 shot groups with Winchester Xpert 32 grain HP lead bullets with my Model 60.

MikePaiN
December 4, 2010, 08:19 AM
In August I bought a Marlin 795 NIB for a grand total of ~$85(Marlin MIR, Dick's sale price and incentive) I intended it to be used as an Appleseed/Liberty training rifle, but I could never get the Tech-Sights to work(due to dove-tail/barrel alignment).
Recently, I decided to give a try with an optic and tossed a cheap $16 Tasco 3x9 on it. Wow! I could always tell the rifle was accurate, but it really came into its own with the scope....This cheap $100 795 setup rips ragged holes with any ammo to the point its almost boring to shoot off a rest..

K-Rod
December 4, 2010, 08:38 AM
I'd said my Marlin 60 is the best .22 I've ever had. I got it for my birthday when I turned 10. I'm 34 now & it's just a fun, reliable accurate rifle. For the money it can't be beat but I have to say about 4months ago I picked up a Winchester 190 from a gun show for $60. The poor thing was leaded up so bad!! I tore it down & couldn't believe how bad it was. It took me at least an hour to clean it. I put an extra scope I had on it & that thing is one heck of a tack driver!! My 60 is getting jealous of the trigger time my 190 is getting!!

All that a side, you just can't go wrong with a 60


JonnyV,

my Uncle had a .22 like that. Isn't it called a "Boy Scout" rifle? It was VERY accurate!!

cthulhufan
December 4, 2010, 12:53 PM
Another CZ-452 vote here. My 452 Lux is a laser gun. I paid extra for the walnut stock but they can be had for well under $400 if that's not a concern for you. Coupled with the CCI Standard Velocity, it is easily more accurate than I'll ever be. I'll be installing the aperture on it next year for even more fun.

Easily one of my best rifles. The fit and finish are absolutely wonderful for such an inexpensive rifle. I've already told my daughter that if she ever sells it, I'll come back from the grave to haunt her.

ssyoumans
December 4, 2010, 06:51 PM
That would be my suggestion as well.

I love my Marlin 795 semi-auto. Got mine for $99 less $25 rebate, net $74. Spend the money for a quality 3-9x40 scope.

I have a blast shooting it, got a few birds today. I think I shoot my bolt action Marlin 25N a little better because I haven't worked on the 795 trigger yet. Stock, the 795 trigger is pretty steep, mine is probably at least 8 lbs.

Tentwing
December 4, 2010, 07:30 PM
For a budget minded accurate 22lr I think that a Marlin model 60 is standard by which all the other modestly priced accurate 22's out there are measured.

That being said I also have a 795 and a 10/22 both of which I love to shoot,......but the Marlin model 60 is still the best "bang for the buck " 22lr I own. :)

Bonesinium
December 4, 2010, 07:43 PM
I can only speak from what I know. And when it comes to .22's, the Marlin 60 is all I know. Considering how terrible a shot I am, this thing makes me seem like a good shot!

Blue Brick
December 4, 2010, 08:14 PM
No Savage 64 on the list?

rogertc1
December 4, 2010, 08:17 PM
Marlin 60

oldbanjo
December 4, 2010, 09:05 PM
I'm also thinking about getting a bolt action 22 w/clip. I just looked up the CZ452 trainer. I like the barrel length. Is this a good Gun? I know nothing about CZ. I now only have a Winchester 67 smooth bore, single shot, made in 1935.

NWCP
December 4, 2010, 09:16 PM
Look around for a CZ 452.The most bang for the buck IMHO.

nodeal
December 4, 2010, 09:29 PM
"Rusty" Kimber from the CMP $400.

My Marlin 795 is the most accurate stock autoloader I've ever used. $99 after rebate.

oldbanjo
December 4, 2010, 10:13 PM
I'll call around Monday, I like the CZ 452 ultra lux. Nice loooooong barrel.

GCBurner
December 4, 2010, 10:26 PM
I'm not sure what my newest rifle is. I friend gave it to me, no stock, just the barrel and innards. On the barrel it says,

"Savage Arms, West Point, Westfield, Mass. USA Model 487T Series A
Cal. .22 Long Rifle." Serial number is B919863.

It was a real mess, rust, action inoperable, no stock, etc. I dismantled it, cleaned it with acetone, buffed it, lubed it with Break Free, cold blued it, found a stock for it, and now it seems like it's ready to shoot.

Does anyone have clue when this rifle was made?
I think the Savage 487T came out in the 1960s.
http://stevespages.com/pdf/savage_487t.pdf

cthulhufan
December 4, 2010, 10:59 PM
I'll call around Monday, I like the CZ 452 ultra lux. Nice loooooong barrel.
I wanted an Ultra Lux myself but couldn't find one with the Turkish walnut stock at the time. I settled for a Lux with walnut stock. I have no regrets; this rifle is a fantastic piece of machinery.

It is my "goto" rifle. If I'm having a bad day at the range, all I have to do is pick up this rifle and shoot it. It tells me immediately if I'm suffering from operator error or bad equipment. Unfortunately it tells me that 9 times out of 10 the operator is at fault. :)

HOOfan_1
December 4, 2010, 11:12 PM
According to the CZ website, the Ultra Lux is only available in beech...or at least it is only available new in beech now.

My dad was drooling over a 513 basic, and my LGS had a CZ 452 sale and I thought they were much better looking than the 513, so I went over and looked at the Lux, FS (only had it in .17HMR or I would have gotten that) and the Ultra-Lux, they didn't have the training rifle on display. The Ultra-Lux was $50 cheaper than the Lux with a walnut stock and I actually liked the look of the Ultra-Luz wood better and I really liked the cheek piece on it, which the Lux did not have. So I bought it. When I got it home, I said...."damn, that is a long barrel" I compared it to some other guns we have and it has the longest barrel of any rifle, rimfire or center fire. I started to worry he wouldn't like it. I was at the shop with him one day and he said he considered the shorter barrel on the Lux to be too long. I won't give him the gun until Christmas, so I am kind of worried. Maybe I will just tell him, if the barrel is too long I will take the Ultra-Lux and give him the money to buy the 513 or the Lux or maybe we can order an FS in .22 LR. The long barrel doesn't bother me a bit and I love the look of the gun.

Combatcomm
December 4, 2010, 11:23 PM
Go to a pawn shop and for less than $120 pickup Marlin Model 60 or better yet the Glenfield model 60 by Marlin with the squirrels on the stalk and you will be very happy!

oldbanjo
December 5, 2010, 12:26 AM
I want the long barrel, it will look good with my Marlin 36" Shotgun. I've always liked long barrel 22's and thought they didn't make them anymore. The length of the barrel is the selling point for me.

webbee
December 5, 2010, 02:39 AM
Marlin Model 60 out of the box tack driver.

ChileRelleno
December 5, 2010, 03:24 AM
I've had my blued 'Marlin Model 60' for a couple decades, countless thousands of rounds through her.
She is still pretty much a tack driver inside 100 yards when fed quality target ammo.
Still groups a nickel at 50yrds, quarter at 100yrds and one head shot Mockingbird that landed atop a 100 yard target stand. :evil:

I still have/use the cheapo 3-9x32 Tasco scope that came with it.
It dates back to when Tasco was still a good and inexpensive optic...
Now they're just junk.

Dr.Rob
December 5, 2010, 05:40 PM
Marlins do last a lifetime. If you can afford a model 39, get one. If not, a model 60 is a pretty solid choice too.

natescout
December 5, 2010, 06:35 PM
10/22

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