VZ-24 owners w/ S&K Scope Mount


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Col. Plink
November 8, 2010, 02:44 PM
Looking for info and experiences with installing and using this mount on a VZ-24. Any and all info welcome! Thanks!

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Mr_Pale_Horse
November 8, 2010, 04:17 PM
Had one on a Yugo it was very sturdy and easy to install.

Col. Plink
November 8, 2010, 05:56 PM
Any tricks to removing the rear sight? Does S&K include directions? I'm no gunsmith and not eager to learn on my fine old Brno!

desidog
November 8, 2010, 06:36 PM
I had trouble with getting the sight leaf off when i did it to my Vz24. i put a ding in it with a flat head screwdriver....not the end of the world since i am not using it anyways.

At another point i was messing around with a Saiga, and on some youtube video there was a guy who used a wooden dowl: I would try that.

Also, two pairs of hands might be optimal too.

Col. Plink
November 8, 2010, 06:44 PM
Is it self-evident how to do the removaland mount or does S&K spell it out? Thanks!

courtgreene
November 8, 2010, 06:52 PM
I just got a deer with mine... they are great if you get a decent scope. you'll have to thow some rem oil at it and bang it with a rubber hammer to get it to fit into the sight leaf's "ears." yes, removal is relatively simple. One thing I suggest is to go ahead and use blue locktite on it because you will find out soon after the first range trip that you need it.

look on ebay for a decent LER scope... i like leupold.

desidog
November 8, 2010, 07:38 PM
Yes and No. Installation, yes. Removal no. You fold the sightleaf up, and then manuevre it back and down at about a 35 degree angle to get it out of its slots, fighting the spring the whole way. It's easier to watch a video of it first, and then do it.

My mount was 18.99, and from pictures i can't tell it apart from the S&K; and i got a $70 2-7x scout scope made by AIM, also a Bold trigger...I'm in to the whole package for under 300, and it shoots great.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2135/imgp4611dz.jpg

ETA: come November 17th, it's going to knock over a deer.

Col. Plink
November 8, 2010, 08:14 PM
Dog, what mount did you use? Available at midway maybe? Thanks!

desidog
November 9, 2010, 02:46 PM
You're in luck; i still have the box...used it for the original parts.

It appears my memory was slightly faulty: off by a dollar on the mount; and 70 was the cost of my entire order, not just the scope.

AIM Sports Inc. Item # MT015 from here:
http://www.milsurpstuff.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MT015

and the scope:
http://www.milsurpstuff.com/proddetail.asp?prod=JH2732B

i don't know about your gun, but the trigger on mine was not good. I'd recommend the Bold trigger (without safety) that i got from Midway.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=312242

I had to remove a little material inside the stock to give the trigger some room, but it was five minutes with a chisel and not hard at all.

Col. Plink
November 9, 2010, 07:27 PM
'Dog is the man!

wnycollector
November 10, 2010, 08:21 AM
A picture is worth a thousand words:) Here is a link to a full install of an S&K mount on a mauser http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews2005/sk98kmount/index.asp

I have one on my 98K and it is great!

Col. Plink
November 10, 2010, 09:27 AM
Awesome!

Looking closely I can tell that the rear sights for VZ-24's are indeed different from 98K Mausers (and most others I would guess).

'Dog, by looking at the pictures Wny posted in the link, can you tell what is not accurate about the VZ-24? I was glad to see the mount you recommended is specific to VZ-24's. Thanks!

thisisoriginal
November 10, 2010, 09:34 AM
The vz.24 is a fine rifle isn't it! I'd like to pick up one of these mounts for mine in the future.

Col. Plink
November 10, 2010, 10:16 AM
Yes, I'll admit I cleaned mine last night (though it didn't need it) and marvelled at it again. Shiny barrel, shiny bore. Trigger's got some creep, I may have to do something about that. I wish the irons worked better as I really like that 'framed' front sight view. Until I get the mount it's about 2' high at 200yds with that volcanic Romanian 8mm...

Are the original triggers worth smithing to remove the creep? Thanks!

thisisoriginal
November 10, 2010, 10:20 AM
Post some pictures of it. :) Mine is beautiful too, I love it. wish I could help ya with the trigger creep.

desidog
November 10, 2010, 11:00 AM
here's mine; you'll notice it sits on a set screw on the sight base. The S&K requires you to remove the sight base as well. It's a little more invasive, but perhaps more solid. I'd hate to damage anything trying to knock off that sight base after it's been on there 65 years.
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/637/imgp5508.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4827/imgp5509v.jpg

The bold trigger is like 40 bucks, drop in, and much better.

Col. Plink
November 10, 2010, 11:07 AM
'Dog, yours looks a lot like mine will, including the ammo. I can't wait to actually put some of that Romanian machinegun ammo on target! I'll have a slightly different optic, a 2-7x 28mm pistol scope w/ 12-20" eye relief. I found eye relief on the VZ-24 begins at 13" for me so I'm hoping this scope will allow for full use of the magnification.

Col. Plink
November 10, 2010, 11:11 AM
'Dog, how is that mount anchored to the sight base? I agree that if it's anchored well it's a good choice because that base is IN THERE on mine and it seems counterproductive to remove it. That said, I intend to make sure the mount is solid. Is yours holding zero with those hot loads? Thanks!

desidog
November 10, 2010, 11:20 AM
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7756/imgp5509m.jpg
There is a screw/cross-pin through the sight-leaf holes, and two set-screws on either side. The overall effect is a see-saw type balancing operation to get the base and the barrel parallel; since the two set screws are fighting each other. When i was installing i hit everything with some blue loctite; and i have put just about 3/4 of that can down range, with no poa/poi shift (yet!).

I sent some Prvi SP's downrange too, in prep for deer season.

ETA: I should add that my shooting has been three range trips; so not extensively tested yet, but it definitely seems solid.

Col. Plink
November 10, 2010, 12:50 PM
So is the mount secured to the base so that it can't see-saw?

I can't tell from the picture what's keeping it secured across the base. Thanks!

desidog
November 10, 2010, 01:15 PM
It is held on by the cross-screw, through the sight base where the leaf used to sit; and it is tensioned by the two set screws. Overall three main points of contact. It is not going anywhere. You could adjust with the set screws and get the equivalent of a 20MOA base, or any other angle of your choosing.
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/3396/imgp5510.jpg

Mr_Pale_Horse
November 10, 2010, 01:21 PM
You could adjust with the set screws and get the equivalent of a 20MOA base
Be sure to center your scope reticle and bore sight and adjust your base set screws BEFORE you start adjusting your reticle. Otherwise, you may run out of reticle adjustment in the elevation turret (I found out the hard way).

Col. Plink
November 10, 2010, 02:01 PM
Thanks, 'dog!

The next da Vinci, ladies and gentleman!

desidog
November 10, 2010, 02:12 PM
No worries. Architecture is a bit slow these days...

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