Ruger minis Synth v. Wood


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Golden_006
November 10, 2010, 08:39 PM
I'm buying a ruger mini. I can't decide between a 30 and 14 because the 30 is plastic.

I have a maverick 88, a Mauser 98k, and I would think another wood gun is in order. But I liked the 7.62 when I owned an sks and still have a box of fmj full met Jack Winchester that I always wanted to shoot cause it was not cheap ammo. But I'm just hung up on having more plastic guns than wood guns. I don't have much money for guns and live in a non free municipality. I say this cuz a mini is my best option for something interesting, shtf and won't be buying another for wahile

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M-Cameron
November 10, 2010, 08:46 PM
ide personally choose wood........they just have a quality about them that is much more desirable than plastic.......the way i see it, wood stock dont wear out, they just obtain character.......where as a plastic stock......just gets old.


so it really comes down to whether the caliber choice is more important than the stock choice.

66912
November 10, 2010, 09:17 PM
If you wish to lay down some coin and get the best of both worlds.......find a factory folder from the 80's. Great design, comfortable to shoot. The stock alone will set you back around $600 these day's. Save an extra 4-5 hundred and you can find an original GB model on an online auction.
Personally, I have both for my mini. A Hogue overmold, An older Choate fixed stock with a pistol grip and the original wood stock. Pretty quick and simple to swap them out and relatively cheap. Best of both worlds. I am just sayin'........

courtgreene
November 10, 2010, 09:35 PM
it is so easy to switch stocks on a mini (seriously you don't even have to turn a screwdriver) that there's no reason not to buy one with wood and get another stock in plastic. that way your gun cabinet stays nice and balanced, you can use whichever you want, and if you buy a tactical stock you are legal by leaving it in the wood until you cross the state line.

Golden_006
November 10, 2010, 09:39 PM
Yeah I did not think about satisfaction in the future. Doesn't everyone just hate when you get that new thing and then its not new anymore? I love my Mauser now that I have an original stock on it with scratches and everything. Although my Maverick still is good as new

Mauser stocks cost a lot though. How much is plastic Mini stock?

Also it's not like I have 20 boxes of 7.62. And further not to start all this up again but it's not like the .223 isn't a proven round and is comparable to the 7.62. I guess I'm just waxing nostalgic with my first rifle in 7.62. Also the wood is what makes the mini sort of different for that kind of a gun.

What did the A team use? That should settle it.

One-Time
November 10, 2010, 09:47 PM
I prefer polymer, lighter, and wont warp

courtgreene
November 10, 2010, 11:03 PM
they aren't expensive... you can get them on sale for like 70, i did NOT get mine on sale, and it was 90

Golden_006
November 11, 2010, 01:19 PM
I would think 70 is a lot; 90 too.

no one likes 7.62? Why? because its a foriners round?

If I got the black plastic - id get the 30

BP Hunter
November 11, 2010, 01:42 PM
I'd go for the wood. It seems to have a natural feel..cuz' its made of nature:rolleyes:. The plastic feels like...well, plastic. Plus I think the wood may absorb more recoil than plastic. Yes, it may be roughened up in the woods, but it feels just right. If you have ever played tennis, the old wooden tennis racket gives you more feel of the ball then today's modern high tech rackets.

briansmithwins
November 11, 2010, 02:02 PM
I guess I'm a form over function kinda guy.

When I lived in New Mexico wood dried out and cracked.

Now that I live in Oregon wood absorbs water and hold water against the metal, causing rust.

Don't really have those problems with plastics. OTOH, maybe I need to live somewhere with less extreme climate.

BSW

Maverick223
November 11, 2010, 03:09 PM
I chose "other" as I would buy a used (or NIB old stock) Mini-30 with wood furniture or a Mini-30 and drop it in a wood stock. Either way the 7.62x39mm is made for the Mini IMO, because like it or not it doesn't have varmint rifle accuracy. It makes for a great little woods gun or ranch carbine.

:)

M1key
November 11, 2010, 03:13 PM
Synthetic Mini fits me better.

FlyinBryan
November 11, 2010, 03:18 PM
i chose the wood.

i had a stainless mini with a wood stock back in the late 80's. they are very nice looking little rifles.

mav has a good idea too though, a 30 in wood could be fun.

courtgreene
November 11, 2010, 03:19 PM
BSW, it sounds like you are a function over form guy to me

Welding Rod
November 11, 2010, 05:16 PM
It won't be very accurate either way so you may as well enjoy the look and feel of the wood.

BTW I don't mean this as a smart alleck remark.

jyo
November 11, 2010, 06:15 PM
I have three---two wood (one with factory folding stock) and one black plastic (factory stainless)---in my opinion it just doesn't matter---all shoot just fine.

briansmithwins
November 11, 2010, 06:22 PM
BSW, it sounds like you are a function over form guy to me

Amazing what a difference syntax makes, isn't it?

Obviously, I meant function over form. Thanks for catching that.

BSW

exdetsgt
November 11, 2010, 11:25 PM
I have a new model mini 14 with a wood stock and it's one of the more comfortable rifles out there.

Golden_006
November 13, 2010, 10:41 AM
It's not a matter of switching stocks ...

The plastic comes in stainless and the wood stock 14 comes in matte blued metal

i am leaning more towards the wood. even though the stainless looks better

The other thing is the price one these ... doggie

I guess if people are will to spend an arm and a leg on a ipad -- that'll be obsolete next year -- then I guess once in awhile i'll splurge on something new and its going to be for a new gun.

fletchbutt152
November 13, 2010, 11:27 AM
I really like my mini 14 target stock. Its made by hogue. Feels great. I wish the gun had open sights on it though. The minute of anglecapability from an indestructable piston gun is what i wanted for 750 bucks!

Water-Man
November 13, 2010, 12:06 PM
There's always some joker that has to say something about the Mini being inaccurate. Why don't you give it up and do the rest of us a favor.

Maverick223
November 13, 2010, 12:43 PM
It's not a matter of switching stocks ...

The plastic comes in stainless and the wood stock 14 comes in matte blued metalSynthetic (as well as laminated wood) is available with either blued or SS, wood is (and has been) only available in blued finish to the best of my knowledge (barring limited edition models). Now even the Mini-30 is available in blued finish, so it is simply a factor of replacing the stock (or buying a used one that came from the factory in that configuration).

:)

Water-Man
November 13, 2010, 01:43 PM
Don't know about the new models but I have a ser.#186-xxx that is wood and s/s.

Maverick223
November 13, 2010, 02:03 PM
Don't know about the new models but I have a ser.#186-xxx that is wood and s/s.I am not terribly surprised...Ruger likes to switch things around, as well as offer hordes of "limited edition", distributer exclusives, et cetera.

:)

Redneck with a 40
November 13, 2010, 02:08 PM
I like the traditional look and beauty of wood stocks on Mini's. Not that it should matter, but the wood doesn't have the "evil" look that so many people love to hate. The black/synthetic stock makes it look like an appliance in my opinion.

Welding Rod
November 13, 2010, 06:18 PM
There's always some joker that has to say something about the Mini being inaccurate. Why don't you give it up and do the rest of us a favor.
I suppose that is directed at me. What can I say, as I typed before, it is a sincere remark. I have owned Minis, including a new 580 model. They are not a highly accurate design and/or execution. That is simply the truth. Doesn't mean it isn't a suitable gun for some purposes, or that it isn't fun.

My last one had a plastic stock. I choose it in hopes of good accuracy. As soon as I realized that was a pipe dream, I wished I would have bought a wood stock instead as I like its look and feel much better.

Just trying to pass on some experience. Not trying to offend anyone.

Zanad
November 13, 2010, 06:59 PM
the mini 30 in wood IS fun. and in my oppinion, get the new mini30 and prlace it with wood or my personal favorite, a houge stock.

Golden_006
November 13, 2010, 07:06 PM
What's the point of replacing it with wood?

If I want wood i'll just buy the 14. Also are the new 14s more accurate. I think the 30s don't have a new barrel

Why does everyone hate this gun so much? I had an SKS, now that was not an accurate rifle. The romanians go for $400. OK so you can get 2 of them. So you'll have 2 inaccurate guns, that are decades old, and have sights that are so bad you think your vision is going. But no it's the sights on the SKS are that bad. Around here ARs are 1200. That is $400 more than a mini. Nothing to sneeze at. Without even shooting it i bet anything the new ones have way more accurate than the SKS -- at least in .223 and give acceptable accuracy just shy of the AR.

Golden_006
November 13, 2010, 07:08 PM
but the wood doesn't have the "evil" look that so many people love to hate.

You mean even firearms enthusiasts or brady bunch people?

I kind of want it for that reason

exdetsgt
November 13, 2010, 10:14 PM
I bought a Mini 14 recently. It's the new model with the heavier barrel and the perforated plastic heat shield with wood furniture. I paid $660 at Trail Boss Guns 'n Gear in Sierra Vista, AZ.
My friend, Jerry, has two of the older Mini 14's. This new model is way more accurate than his older models, plus it has really nice iron sights, and what Golden 006 says about the accuracy comparison between the SKS and the Mini 14. I too had an SKS. It was dependably inaccurate and can't compare with my Mini 14, which, as he said, is just very slightly less accurate than an AR and way less money. If you're shooting at a threat that's 100-150 away you will take it out with an AR. You will also take it out with a Mini 14. Wandering around down here along the Mexican border you look suspicious with an AR. With my Mini 14 I'm just another hunter.

Maverick223
November 14, 2010, 12:03 AM
What's the point of replacing it with wood?You're the one that said you would prefer wood. Personally I just prefer the looks of it, no real big advantage one way or the other.

Also are the new 14s more accurate.I have never done a side-by-side comparison but I am not entirely convinced of that. Either way you're not likely to end up with a tack driver...but it isn't likely to pattern like a scattergun either.

I think the 30s don't have a new barrelThey sure don't come with a used bbl. I may be wrong, but I believe all Ruger firearms are using barrels of their own manufacture, so there shouldn't be a big difference. I'd go with the one that suited the task at hand best.

:)

Golden_006
November 14, 2010, 06:31 PM
I can't decide and I'm buying next week.

i don't want to buy something and put another 100 dollars in it for another stock.

I think the the stainless and black polymer looks better and the wood a little boring. I also like the idea of an evil looking gun as big thumbing my nose to libs in charge of the state gov't that wants to ban them like they did AK/AR.


1. What are the +'s and -'s of each. Or particualrly the wood 14?

2. But what is it going to look like later?

3. The other thing to consider is -- is the black polymer tougher? This is supposed to be my civil disorder go-to-firearm

PS -- the counter jockey at Sport authority says the black one is better (they didn't sell the wood one however). And high end guns are switching to plastic. is this so?

Maverick223
November 14, 2010, 06:50 PM
But what is it going to look like later?The wood will hold up fine with a little care, the polymer will scratch just as easily, but they won't show as well nor will it dent as easily. It is the low maintenance option.

the counter jockey at Sport authority says the black one is betterI don't see any advantage to the polymer other than low maintenance. Wood is just as durable (there are wood stocks that are several hundred years old), and looks better. Whilst the wood will change with humidity I don't believe that will have any practical disadvantages in that particular rifle.

And high end guns are switching to plastic. is this so?Most any production rifle is now available with a polymer stock of some sort, but most high-end rifles are still available in wood...which is still preferred by many folks simply because of aesthetics (as do I).

:)

exdetsgt
November 14, 2010, 10:00 PM
The stainless w/black polymer is indeed nice looking. A friend has this combo in Mini-14. The stocks feel rubberized and are made by Hogue, so they may not be the ones that came originally on the rifle.

I still like my black Mini-14 with wood stocks. When we place them side by side, mine looks positively vintage.

Pony Express
November 14, 2010, 10:17 PM
black 30...Just cause 7.62 is cheaper and more versatile than 5.56 (and this is coming from an AR guy)

I've given some thought to a mini-30 for a truck gun, but I cant find a good reason not to use my 870 as a truck gun

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