Veteran's Day


Art Eatman
November 11, 2010, 12:01 AM
I still think of it as Armistice Day, being a Certified Olde Phart. Ring the bellls at 11AM on the eleventh day of the eleventh month. The end of the Great War, the war to end all wars.

Nope. Never happen. So, a few wars later we have Veteran's Day.

In order to keep it gun-related, let's talk about what we carried.

I went through Basic at Fort Bliss with the Garand. On occupation duty in South Korea in 1954/1955, I had an M2 Carbine. Somebody decided that I'd be okay as a squad leader and I must say that the M-16 hallftrack with a quad-50 mount was more fun. Here's my memory lane:

So what did you tote? Or fly or float upon or hump ammo for?

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November 11, 2010, 12:28 AM
Here's a word for some men I miss not being able to toast with:

(The day the last 'Nam vet died; for Richard)

Once, we many -- invincible and immortal in our young minds --
yes, once, glad to respond to the call of duty, we prepared,
and went as sent. We were brave once and innocent.
War has its ways, and changed us, once.
We thought we survived by chance, but Fate followed us home,
hounding us all, in memory, alone.
There was no adequate resistance, no way to regain innocence.
So we walked on home, steps one-by-one.
A path, a ladder, a maze, a question: "Was I really what I was, once?"
Trying to un-think our experience...."Good night Sweet Prince..."
We wonder what we were; Life became "sweet sorrow."
One-by-one we tarry, go on, linger, unknown but to our own,
and unsung.
Aging, dying, one-by-one. Fading into tomorrow,
quiet warriors, heros, daughters or sons.
They live forever, and will live on as long as we remember
and give honor. Their lives, deeds, and love live on.
We must never let those die out, alone.
Memory is their hallowed ground; quiet, sweet, fresh, calm,
finished in duty and in life.
Now WE are in command of their names; one-by-one
until we are none.
" Semper Fi! " because we all know what it means.

November 11, 2010, 01:37 AM
Well said, daorhgih.

I was Air Force, 1965 - 1988. Carried at times M2 carbine, 38 Special pistol, and M16. That's all, never fired either in anger, fortunately.

November 11, 2010, 02:37 AM
I guess I'm the young gun. Basic training M16A2, with a restamped A1 receiver. In the sandbox I had a M4 which was a glamorized paperweight and traffic control device, and a M2 HMG which was put through its paces in its intended (and sometimes unintended) uses.

I never did figure out the original manufacture date on my M2, but the receiver was re-arsenaled in 1947, then again in 1954, then in '68, '74, and most recently in 2007. The stories that gun could tell.

November 11, 2010, 07:32 AM
When I arrived in beautiful sunny downtown SE Asia, I was issued a M2 Carbine and was also authorized a sidearm but none were available. I was able to buy a S&W Model 39 from a returning chopper pilot and carried in an M-6 holster shoulder holster (came with the pistol) I believe. Later I did mamaged to secure a 1911A1 and returned to the world with the Smith 39. I sold it a short time later because of it's god awful DA pull and size.

November 11, 2010, 07:47 AM
Another young one here. At MCRD SanDiego in 1998, I was issued an M16A2. After MCRD and Infantry school I was issued an M240G and an M9. (I love that 240, one day I would really like to try an M60 if I get a chance a FA shoot.) After the Marines I joined the guard and was issued an M16A1, never got to shoot it before it got "upgraded" to an A2. Since 2006 my duties changed and I have the M9 again. Nothing all that interesting I guess, but having been in the infantry I did get to fire some other cool stuff a time or two, including:

M9, M16, M249, M240, M2, MK19, SMAW spotting rounds, M203 grenades, several variations of non lethal shotgun ammo, non lethal M203 ammo, AT4 simulator (9mm, never got to shoot th ereal deal :( ), dropped 60 mm mortars, and of course, got to throw my fair share of frag grenades. 9mm Simu-nitions Kits (which are a blast)

November 11, 2010, 07:53 AM
U.S.Army 1972-1976. Issued a M16A1 but shot M2, M203, and 1911A1 but carried a mean torq wrench as I was a wheeled vehicle mechanic. When stationed in Fort Dix, N.J. was assigned to a MP outfit and was one of the M2 gunners for that outfit if we was depolyed anywhere that a machinegunner was needed.

November 11, 2010, 07:54 AM
Happy Veterans day fellow brothers and sisters, current and past.

I've spent a lot of time deployed to Iraq.

I've been issued and carried a variety of arms. I've carried a semi-auto M4 with flat top receiver and flip up iron sights, a fully auto M4 with eotech, a M9, and a Browning Hi-power when we were short on M9s.

November 11, 2010, 08:03 AM
To all those who have served and who are serving our country, thank you.

I wish to extend special thanks to my best friend, Sgt. Jerusha Jennings of the United States Air Force.

November 11, 2010, 08:04 AM

November 11, 2010, 08:29 AM
I remember the day a guy fired a quad 50 over my head as I walked by the M-60
There is a man that is very lucky that he is still alive today.
Have a great one////////////////////

Cain R
November 11, 2010, 08:37 AM
Remembrance Day up here. Carried an ancient (1956ish) C1 -FN FAL- to everbody else in the world while in the reserves in the late '80's. Great rifle, wish the government would let me legally shoot the ones I have in my safe...

November 11, 2010, 08:39 AM
US Navy, '84-'04 active duty, presently a cilivilian for the DoN. Never issued a duty firearm, just tended the nuclear reactors onboard our carriers.

A big and heartfelt "Thank You" to all the vets out there!

The Bushmaster
November 11, 2010, 08:43 AM
Carried a Springfield in boot camp...My next arm was a fast attack diesel submarine. Then they asigned me to a destroyer escort. Then a submarine tender. A harbor tugboat was next. A torpedo firing craft. An ammunition ship and I retired off an ocean going mine sweep (Iron Men/Wooden Ships).

My guns were bigger then yours, Art.

November 11, 2010, 08:44 AM
Didn't get into the called for 'pre-induction physical', had huge leather & stainless steel device wrapped around 1 knee post-surgery....instant 4F.

however...For our fine men & women now in Service and those that have Served...A very sincere "THANK YOU" and a sweeping tip of the hat.

For those that did not return...A moment of silence and my deepest condolences to your family and friends.

Tonight, I'm going to get out the US Rifle Cal .30 M1, and my Springfield GI-45 while I watch Episode 9 (IIRC) of Band of Brothers "Why We Fight", and consider the reasons WHY we have and will always need our Fine People in Uniform.

November 11, 2010, 08:47 AM
Carried an M4 and M9 in Iraq. Rode around the turret of a HMMWV with a 240B for a while and then manned the turret of an MRAP with a M2 .50 on top.

Qualified with an M16A2 in basic and got to shoot other various weapons as others have mentioned.

November 11, 2010, 08:56 AM
6-68 to 7-77 carried SW38, 1911, Thompson to darn heavy, but mostly carried a 40mm for my long gun on Nighthawk missions. The Nighthawk bird had 7.62 mini-gun, 50 cal, m-60s, usually a couple of M-16s, starlight and Zeon.

Because we were young bold and almost invincible we went out asking everyone to shoot at us. We would return fire, break off, and our blacked out cover bird AH-1 Cobra ( they were called snakes) would squeeze off a few rockets and that was pretty much it or we would bring Arty down on the location.

Except for Laos this worked very well.

To all those who fight for what they believe in both past and future I salute the brotherhood.

May our cause always be just and if my brother falls have him save a seat for me in heaven for Lord you know I have sent many to hell..

November 11, 2010, 08:57 AM
No military service for me, thanks to all of you veterans my generation knows little of war and strife.

In honor of veterans day, a prayer from Lewis Millett

I have fought when others feared to serve.
I have gone where others failed to go.
I've lost friends in war and strife,
Who valued Duty more than love of life.

I have shared the comradeship of pain.
I have searched the lands for men that we have lost.
I have sons who served this land of liberty,
Who would fight to see that other stricken lands are free.

I have seen the weak forsake humanity.
I have heard the traitors praise our enemy.
I've seen challenged men become even bolder,
I've seen the Duty, Honor, Sacrifice of the Soldier.

Now I understand the meaning of our lives,
The loss of comrades not so very long ago.
So to you who have answered duties siren call,
May God bless you my son, may God bless you all.

Lewis Millett

It doesn't seem like much in text, but watching "Tales of the Gun, guns of valor" and hearing the legendary Lewis Millett read this prayer that he read at his sons funeral is incredibly moving.

November 11, 2010, 09:30 AM
Another young one here. At MCRD SanDiego in 1998, I was issued an M16A2. After MCRD and Infantry school I was issued an M240G and an M9. (I love that 240, one day I would really like to try an M60 if I get a chance a FA shoot.)

What BN were you in? I was there the same time as you 2nd BN Plt 2066 Graduated July 3rd 1998.

Just One Shot
November 11, 2010, 09:30 AM
Mine was the M16 from 76-79.

I also want to offer a big SALUTE to my fellow veterans and all my brothers and sister who are active military!

God Bless!

Ed Wagner
November 11, 2010, 09:43 AM
First ship, 1903A3 and 1911A1 as backup for MarDet., second ship, M14, 870 12 ga ,1911A1,M60 mg, as a member of the landing force and security force on the ship.
The 1903A3 on the first ship ( a carrier ), had a 1943 date and was cosmo'ed to death, took me 6 hours to clean up that rifle, using approved USN methods.

November 11, 2010, 09:50 AM
In honor of veterans day, a prayer from Lewis Millett
It doesn't seem like much in text, but watching "Tales of the Gun, guns of valor" and hearing the legendary Lewis Millett read this prayer that he read at his sons funeral is incredibly moving.

I had the distinct pleasure of knowing and serving under Col. Millett when he was the commander of the US Army Security Agency Training Center & School at Fort Devens, MA back in the late 60's. He was a real character and one of the best commandant's that training center ever had though there were a lot of people who would disagree with me.

He was a hard taskmaster, but you knew right where you stood with him and if you did your job like you were supposed to you'd never have a problem with him.

He passed away November 14th of last year at 88. R.I.P Col. Millett

November 11, 2010, 09:51 AM
God Bless America

November 11, 2010, 09:55 AM
Navy '94-'00 M-16 durring boot, M-9 through the rest until in theater where I carried a M-16 A2 with 203 attached, a PPpSh, a scorpion, an AK 47, and a Kate. Arty we humped AT-4's, 81mm's, and SMAW rounds.
To all those still in harms way "Thank you, and Semper Fi!"~2/2 and 2/8 Second Mar Div

November 11, 2010, 09:58 AM
I was in 1-41 Mechanized Infantry so I got to shoot quite a few different weapons. M16A2 then I was issued an M16A4 about a year before I got out. Also M4, 50 cal mounted on top of a humvee, 249 SAW, Mark 19 grenade launcher was very fun!, AT-4, M9, and then the obvious ones incendiary and frag grenades, clay mores stuff like that.

November 11, 2010, 10:17 AM
Army from 1997 to 2005. I mostly carried an M16A2 but had the M249 for a few months.

One of the fun classes I went through was the Foreign Weapons Familiarization Course at Fort Irwin, CA. On the last day we fired the AKM, AK-74, MP5K, PKM, and a few others. In later years they started getting RPG rounds for the students.

Happy Veteran's Day!

November 11, 2010, 10:23 AM
USN, 2001-present. Shipboard it was M9s on the quarterdeck and M-14s topside. Occasionally Mk18s, M-14s, 50s, M-60s, Mk 79s, CIWS, 5" ... Harpoons ... Tomahawks. :)

Sadly, no guns on this one:

Happy Veterans day all, thanks for your service past and present!

Tim the student
November 11, 2010, 10:33 AM
Happy Veterans Day brothers and sisters.

1/508 ABCT
3/505 PIR
2/63 AR
3/505 again, with the transition to 5/73 Recon

I carried primarily an M4, but also an M16 for a couple years in Italy. Always an M4 in combat, save a few days with a shotgun.

November 11, 2010, 12:03 PM
USN, '90-'98. the only time I was ever issued a wepon was when I was T.A.D to subic bay in the phillipnes waiting for my ship. I stood one 4hr gate watch & was issued a .38spl S&W revolver & a winchester 12 gage shotgun. not shure what model #'s but they were verry old, the blueing was almost completly worn off both of them. I would like to end this post by thanking all of my fellow veterans for their service to our great country.

Member V.F.W POST #177

November 11, 2010, 12:17 PM
1989-1993 US Army (Cavalry Scout & Infantry)
Personally Carried
M16A1 & M16A2

Old krow
November 11, 2010, 12:19 PM
So what did you tote? Or fly or float upon or hump ammo for?

First was a 1911 and M14. That later evolved into M9 and M16. A 12ga from used quite a bit for a period. Now my weapon is far more subtle.

November 11, 2010, 03:56 PM
I'm feeling rather like an olde phart myself these days, but I probably only qualify as an overworked, middle-age phart :)

On the Sturgeon class boats, our small arms locker consited of 1911 A1s (really old Colts with really bad mags) M-14s with poly stocks and Remington 870s with really short barrels, plastic pistol grips and underfolder stocks (lots of fun to shoot rapidly from the hip ;) ).

All the best 'toys' were launched from a 21" torpedo tube, however... MJK-48 ADCAP torpedo, Harpoon ASM, Tomahawk ASM and LAM, and our worst fear.... the SUROC (which even our CO concluded we could never survive).

Later, on the LA class, we had M9s and M16s.

November 11, 2010, 04:02 PM
I was issued a M-14 in boot camp, carried it for just a few days and turned it in for the M-16. Qualified toilet seat, but went on to shoot expert the rest of my time in.

November 11, 2010, 04:24 PM
With proud thanksgiving, a mother for her children,
England mourns for her dead across the sea.
Flesh of her flesh they were, spirit of her spirit,
Fallen in the cause of the free.

Solemn the drums thrill; Death august and royal
Sings sorrow up into immortal spheres,
There is music in the midst of desolation
And a glory that shines upon our tears.

They went with songs to the battle, they were young,
Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted;
They fell with their faces to the foe.

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

They mingle not with their laughing comrades again;
They sit no more at familiar tables of home;
They have no lot in our labour of the day-time;
They sleep beyond England's foam.

But where our desires are and our hopes profound,
Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight,
To the innermost heart of their own land they are known
As the stars are known to the Night;

As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust,
Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain;
As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,
To the end, to the end, they remain.



british army 1988-1995
West Belfast
UN Peace keeping
Op Granby (desert storm)
ops in central america

November 11, 2010, 04:25 PM
U.S. Army Military Police Corps 1977 - 1980.

Carried 1911A1 every day...
M16A1 as well.
Trained on M60, M2 .50 cal., and M72 LAW.

November 11, 2010, 04:32 PM

US Navy: 1992 - present

Mk38 25mm chain gun
Mk19 40mm grenade launcher

November 11, 2010, 04:33 PM
Another youngin here,

Army 2000-2009

Mounted 50
and when pickins were slim a Hi Power I "aquired" from a local

A very sincere Thanks to all who stepped up to the call before I did, including my father and both grandfathers. You were all my inspiration.

November 11, 2010, 04:35 PM
1968 - 1977 carried a m16 for awhile but then a M79 thumper.

November 11, 2010, 05:07 PM
Can't contribute other than to put out a thank you to all the vets for your service to our country!

I feel that one of my great regrets in life is that I never served in the military and now I'm too old to change that.

November 11, 2010, 05:22 PM
So what did you tote?

In boot camp: M14

sidearm: M1911a1

rifle: M16a1

November 11, 2010, 05:23 PM
USN 1989-1993. Desert Shield and Desert Storm. M-14 and M-9.

I loved that M-14. I had no problems with it whatsoever. It served me well, as did the M-9.

I believe some of the guys in theater today are still carrying the M-14 for various reasons.

Thanks to all my fellow vets: your service to your country is much appreciated :).

Take care,

November 11, 2010, 05:40 PM

Thanks for posting that Binyon poem. None is more appropriate.

November 11, 2010, 06:29 PM
I believe some of the guys in theater today are still carrying the M-14 for various reasons.

Yep, I've seen it.

Erik M
November 11, 2010, 08:28 PM
My grandfather was a rifleman with the 37th Infantry division and carried a M1. I have a picture of his company before they were deployed to the pacific. I’ll never know what kind of action he saw but from research I know he was sent to numerous sites of historical significance. His pacific campaign medal has 4 battle stars attached and he was awarded a bronze star. His discharge papers and medals are now a cherished family heirloom. The pride I feel reminiscing about it makes me regret not enlisting in my teenage years.

To all that have served, God bless and thank you.

November 11, 2010, 09:17 PM
1/87 Infantry.

Carried an M4, an M14, Mossberg 500 and a M203 on occasion, SAW too.

Sat behind the M240B and the M2 on occasion too, in a Humvee and an MRAP.

Did two tours in Iraq, one in '05 and one in '07. '05 in Victory in Iraq, '07 was the surge, I spent 16 months in Hawijah, near Kirkuk.

Infantry team leader, and then a Scout for a while.

Best friend is in Utah, repairing F22's. He was right there with me.

November 11, 2010, 09:28 PM
Funny, isn't it, that so many will say they regret never having served their country, but so few say they regret having served.

Happy Veteran's Day to all who served, past and present. And thank you.

November 11, 2010, 10:03 PM
Army 94-05

mostly m-16, m-4, m-9

Served as a 13F then reclassed to a 91C. Thank you to all that have served.

November 11, 2010, 10:11 PM
Was a SAW (M249) gunner in Iraq (OIF1). Manned the .50 and MK19 and kept an AT4 readily available on mounted missions. Carried a claymore and a frag also. :evil:

November 12, 2010, 08:05 AM
Killchain, I was also with 187, 3-101. When were you?

November 12, 2010, 08:18 AM
Thank you Vets!

November 12, 2010, 08:23 AM
US Army 1986-1994. Qualified with M16A1, Ft. Sill OK. Carried same with M203 attachment for several years. A2's came later.

Paul Kersey
November 12, 2010, 08:30 AM
USN 1973 - 1977.
1911 and M14

November 12, 2010, 09:37 AM
Us Army 67-91,..from Viet Nam to Desert Storm. Carried all of ours at one time or another,..and a few of there's on started in the 82nd Airborne, and went uphill from there!

Sergeant Major, USA, Retired

Tim the student
November 12, 2010, 10:23 AM
Lemme guess Thunder, you were in the herd too. Junction City?

November 12, 2010, 11:46 AM
Just the M9 for me.

Nicky Santoro
November 12, 2010, 12:00 PM
US Army 1968-70

M2 carbine
M2 .50 cal

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