List of Issued Handguns by Department


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InkEd
November 11, 2010, 11:27 PM
Does any have a link to a list of what handguns are standard issue by the country's various police departments? (I can't seem to find one.)

Perhaps we could compile one here. I think it would be a nice reference. Please add any you know to the list.

TN:
Memphis Police: Sig229 (.40)
Shelby County: Sig226 (.40)

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Glockurai
November 11, 2010, 11:53 PM
Miami PD: Glock 22 for uniform patrol.
FHP: Glock 37
Miami Dade PD: Authorized Glock 17 and 9mm Sigs. Issued revolver.

MikeNice
November 12, 2010, 12:18 AM
The DEA carries the S&W M&P, Sig Pro, Glock 22, Glock 23, and Glock 27 in .40S&W.

The North Carolina Highway Patrol use to carry the Beretta Cougar in .357Sig. I think they switched to the S&W M&P.

InkEd
November 12, 2010, 01:02 AM
NYPD-Glock 17 (9mm)

Edit: Correction to caliber.

Trumac
November 12, 2010, 09:57 AM
NYPD-Glock .40

Everyone I know in NYPD carries either a Glock, Sig, or S&W in 9mm.

Mags
November 12, 2010, 10:17 AM
Albuquerque Police- Glock 22/23
NM State Police- M&P 357 sig
NM DPS- M&P 357 Sig

dcarch
November 12, 2010, 11:21 AM
Iowa City PD: Glock 22, .40 caliber,
Coralville (IA) PD, Sig 229, DAK, .40 caliber
Iowa State Patrol, Smith and Wesson M&P 40, .40 caliber.
Just the departments I know of.

InkEd
November 12, 2010, 11:39 AM
Detroit PD: M&P 40
LAPD: Glock 22 (.40)

InkEd
November 12, 2010, 12:33 PM
C'mon guys! Take 2 minutes and post what your local cops carry. (200+ Views and Only 6 replies) I doubt THAT many of you live in the areas already mentioned.

96projectz24
November 12, 2010, 12:36 PM
Glocks are pretty widespread, .40 seems to be the caliber of choice...

Spec ops Grunt
November 12, 2010, 12:41 PM
Now, this here is a Glock 40.

I'm the only one professional enough in this room.....

Zach S
November 12, 2010, 12:46 PM
Asheville City Police uses Sig P220s.

patrick_ford
November 12, 2010, 12:57 PM
In North Carolina:

NCSBI: Sig P220
NC Highway Patrol: M&P .357 Sig
State Capitol Police: Glock 21 .45
Wake County Sheriff Office: Sig P229 .357 Sig (I think)
Johnston County Sheriff Office: Glock 21 .45
Raleigh PD: M&P .45
Durham PD: M&P .45
Wake Forest PD: Glock 21 .45
Knightdale PD: Sig P229 .40
Smithfield PD: Sig P220 .45
Clayton PD: HK USP .45

That's a few off the top of my head.

Thanks,

Patrick

dovedescending
November 12, 2010, 01:11 PM
Chattanooga PD: Sig 220
Walker County GA Sheriff: Glock 21 (.45)

InkEd
November 12, 2010, 01:21 PM
Thank you for the good response patrickford.

(We know that Glocks are widespread and 40 has become the generic caliber BUT it would still be nice to see what everyone is issued.)

IIRC Chicago IL gives an allowance and has officers pick from an approved list. (This is surprising for such a large city IMHO.)

Springfield MA: M&P 40 (big shock, right?)
Dallas TX: Sig 226 (9mm)

JaxNovice
November 12, 2010, 03:05 PM
Jacksonville Beach-Glock 21
JSO-Glock 22

joe_security
November 12, 2010, 03:11 PM
Chicago is requiring the Glock 17/19 while in training and on 18 month probation. After that, they can choose from a large list that includes several .40 and .45 pistols including P220 DAO or DAK, XD and various Glocks. They still have people working with grandfathered revolvers, known as "wheelgunners".

fastbolt
November 12, 2010, 03:42 PM
There are over 17,000 state & local LE agencies nationwide.

While issued & authorized weapons can probably be listed for the major agencies (NYPD, LAPD, LASD, etc), and the state agencies have been listed upon occasion, it's probably going to be hard to find current info for most of the smaller agencies on any given day.

Last time I heard, something like 60+% of the agencies across the country employed 10 or fewer armed employees, and it's not uncommon for agencies that small to require (or allow) their employees to purchase their own equipment & weapons.

pacerdude
November 12, 2010, 03:45 PM
Atlanta PD, Smith and Wesson M&P 40

Athens-Clarke County, Glocks of some flavor (probably 40s&w)

UGA police, Glocks of some flavor (probably 40s&w)

Conyers Police, Glock 22's

sxcamaro05
November 12, 2010, 03:54 PM
Ohio State Toopers can choose from a list with most common being the S&W MP/Glock 22 in .40. Local police in the NE Ohio carry Glocks and I have seen a few Sigs. I know for sure Youngstown police Dept. carry the Glock 22, I have seen them exchange for the newer Gen's over the years.

dcarch
November 12, 2010, 04:15 PM
Hey Spec Ops Grunt, you saw that clip too? " I'm the only one professional enough in this room... BANG!" That was hilarious!

Yarddog
November 12, 2010, 04:19 PM
Clay County FL. Glock 21 ; )
Y/D

Prion
November 12, 2010, 04:56 PM
Vermont State Police Sig P229

Mr.Davis
November 12, 2010, 05:11 PM
Lexington, KY police carry the Glock 22. Saw a 26 or 27 on an off duty officer recently.

BlindJustice
November 12, 2010, 05:14 PM
I had a link of a site that had compiled small arms info for Domestic/Foregin, LEA, other gov. agencies and Military.
I haven't found it.

Denmark arms 2 man Polar Bear survey teams who go out
and camp for a number of weeeks, Glock 20 and a Bolt Action
in .30-06.

Miami has .40 S&W in handguns as well as an H&K MP5 SMG in .40

ok, my city county and WSP

Washington State Patrol switched 2 years ago from H&^K due to
lack of working with their armors/customer service
got S&W M&P .40 S&W prior to the H&K they had Beretta 92SF
which were universally hated.

Whitman County - big in area south of Spokane Wash.
LOts of dryland wheat as well as the Snake River for the southern border.
Sheriffs Dept.: Kimber 1911 5" BBL stainless

Pullman Wash. - home of Wash St. U. 17,00 student body
in a college town totoal pop. is 27,000
Flock 17


Oh, and Tacoma PD/Peierce County 1911s


It's the Wild West....

Randall - plenty of P/U Trucks with long guns in the rear
window on the rack this time of year

postalnut25
November 12, 2010, 05:34 PM
Denver and it's biggest suburb, Aurora- Buy your own from a list of approved weapons and calibers.

Don't know about the other suburbs.

Colorado State Patrol issues M&P 40s

longhair75
November 12, 2010, 05:53 PM
I am not sure what the situation is in Omaha, NE. My niece's husband, who retired from the police dept three years ago or so, carried a Beretta 92 in 9mm. Most of the officers I have seen lately seem to be carrying Glocks. I do not know if there is a caliber specified.

1prcntr
November 12, 2010, 06:16 PM
Louisiana State Police-Glock 22 .40

ny32182
November 12, 2010, 06:25 PM
I was recently SOing a stage in a police pistol match with (guessing) teams representing close to three dozen departments in SC. I'd say it was ~80% Glock Fotays, and probably half of the remainder was also chambered in .40. I remember one team shooting 9's, one team shooting Glocks chambered in .45 GAP, and one team with USP .45's.

tony433
November 12, 2010, 06:29 PM
Saint Lucie Co. FL glock 21

The Wiry Irishman
November 12, 2010, 07:04 PM
Indiana State Police - Glock 17
Purdue Univeristy Police - Some flavor of full-size Sig, not sure if its 9 or 40.
Lafayette and West Lafayette IN, - One has full-size Glocks, the other full-size Sigs. Can't remember which is which or what caliber

~Boomslang~
November 13, 2010, 01:10 AM
Hong Kong Police Force (HKP) Sig P250

:)

tangomike706
November 13, 2010, 01:31 AM
Pike County (PA) Sheriff's Dept. Sig 9229 (40s&W)

Eastern Pike Regional Police Dept. Glock 22

PA State Police. appear to be carrying the Glock 37 (45GAP) at this point, (correct me if I'm wrong)

Pike county Corrections/Jail: Sig p229 (40 S&W)

my employer recently converted from the Sig p228 to the Sig p229

167
November 13, 2010, 02:18 AM
Little Rock, AR: Glock 22

North Little Rock, AR: Berretta Px4 Storm (caliber unknown)

Arkansas State Police: Glock 22 or Glock 21 (officer preference last I heard)

Lonoke County, AR: Glock 22

Most smaller departments in the area it is provide your own duty pistol.

Columbua, SC: Sig P220

REAPER4206969
November 13, 2010, 02:32 AM
All Idaho police that I've seen have a Glock 21/22/23.

sxcamaro05
November 13, 2010, 02:34 AM
My uncle is retiring in three years from the PA State Troopers and the .45 gap is among the approved calibers. My uncle carried a 92F in the 80's early 90's. Then moved onto the Glocks and for the last few years he said only a few troopers carry the .45 gap most are still using .40's.

sidheshooter
November 13, 2010, 03:26 AM
Slightly north of blind justice and slightly west of reaper, the police in Spokane carry glocks in .40 with 180gr gold dot-with the possible exception of swat, who had issues with rail light-equipped G22s and the 180 grainers, and were looking at other options last I heard (something about the frame flexion difference with lights mounted that screws with Gaston's mojo... a point to consider if you have a G22 and use a mounted light and favor heavier loads).

Off duty cops seem to gravitate to the G27 with the same GDHP duty load; one guy got shot in the head a few years ago only to jump up and run off to file suit against the department (!)

But I digress. For some light reading, scrolling down to the local and state equipment .PDFs and then going in about half way (page 15 or so) will give some more info, as of about 6 years ago, here:

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=1052

Narwhal
November 13, 2010, 03:35 AM
Austin, TX Police Department - S&W M&P 40

Until recently officers could choose from a list of a variety of weapons which they were free to purchase and carry for duty. For the past few years cadets have still been required to purchase an M&P for use during their time in the academy (even if they were going to buy something else as their duty weapon afterwards), and in the past few months it was announced that it will be mandatory for all officers to abandon their old pistols and carry only the M&P 40.

180gr Gold Dots are the duty ammo.

I love the M&P 40 and have 5 of them, but I know it is not a popular decision with many officers who loved their glocks, sigs, and h&k's.

Narwhal
November 13, 2010, 03:47 AM
Houston, TX Police Department:

Smith & Wesson M&P, .40 caliber
Glock Models 22, 22C, 23, or 23C, .40 caliber
Springfield Armory Model XD-40 Duty, .40 caliber
Sig-Sauer Model P229, DA/SA or DAK Versions, .40 caliber
Sig Sauer Model P226, DA/SA or DAK versions, .40 caliber

Officers must choose one of those 5 pistols as their duty weapon.

Carter
November 13, 2010, 03:48 AM
North Carolina:
Cabarrus County: Sig 226 .40
Concord: Glock 22
Kannapolis: Glock 22
Charlotte: Px4 don't know what caliber
Rockwell: glock 22

I'm surprised there that many .45's issued out in the country. Makes me happy that there is still something other than .40 (which I think is a great round).
Wonder why the NYPD stuck with the 9mm? I carry a 9mm, but it just seems NYPD would be all over the "all mighty" .40.

uspJ
November 13, 2010, 05:26 AM
Macon GA Glock 22
Eatonton Ga Glock 22 and SW M&P .40
Milledgeville GA Glock 22/23


I'm honestly surprised that the SA XD hasn't been chosen more by LE agencies.

BlayGlock
November 13, 2010, 09:43 AM
Local Sheriff: Anything they want, mainly 1911s and Glocks
Texas DPS: Sig p226 in .357 sig, ladies can choose 9mm.

montess85
November 13, 2010, 09:50 AM
New York State Police carry the Glock37

msiley
November 13, 2010, 10:03 AM
Cleveland, OH - Glock 17/19

Onmilo
November 13, 2010, 10:08 AM
Illinois State Police Glock 22 & 23
Chicago Transit Police Glock 32
Our County cops, Glocks 9mm & 40
Larger metropoitan Police forces issue Glock 19 & 23 but have open door that allows the cops to carry what they can qualify with, many carry 1911s

loadedround
November 13, 2010, 10:15 AM
The Philadelphia Police Department all carry the Glock 9 mm with the choice of mid or full size models. The "White Shirts" and plain clothes guys have the baby Glocks also in 9 mm. Interesting fact is a few of their older uniformed officers, probably close to retirement are still permitted to cary their 38 spl revolvers.
My Township police department is very progressive and all carry the Glock in 40 S&W.

sidheshooter
November 13, 2010, 12:49 PM
Does any have a link to a list of what handguns are standard issue by the country's various police departments?


I withdraw my last link. This one is a lot more interesting:

http://sites.google.com/site/worldinventory/

.

deafdave3
November 13, 2010, 01:14 PM
Louisiana State Police-Glock 22 .40

However, in this crappy local town in south Louisiana, the local PD issues its two officers the cheapest .22LR auto it can find.

I have a lot more respect for Louisiana State Police, though. They really got their stuff together.

Rail Driver
November 13, 2010, 01:16 PM
Tallahassee Metro Police - Glock 22
Leon County Sheriffs - Glock 22
Florida State Police - Glock 22

I think I'm seeing a trend here...

rromeo
November 13, 2010, 01:24 PM
NYPD-Glock 17 (9mm)Glock 19 is also allowed.

Richmond, VA I believe the city cops use a Sig Pro.
Henrico County uses Glock 22.

Harley Quinn
November 13, 2010, 01:34 PM
LAPD has quite a few they can carry... Issue is the G 22 and Beretta 92...

G 21 is one many carry...

Glocks, Berettas, 45s of various makes, and the revolver is still with them as a back up...

Here is an article about the history of the various they carried...

http://www.gunsandammo.com/content/guns-of-the-lapd#close

Area I live in Sacramento...
City Police carry Sig-Sauer 40cal--Model P239 or Model P 226...

I believe the Sac Sheriff carry similar...

40 cal is popular but the 9mm is still around...

CHP are now into these...Last month, Smith & Wesson announced the CHP had ordered 9,736 semiautomatic pistols, known as the 4006TSW. The guns will replace 7,718 older Smith & Wesson 4006 pistols that the CHP bought in the 1990s, ensuring a large stock for new recruits.

tercel89
November 13, 2010, 01:35 PM
In Tennessee:
Tennessee State Troopers - Glock 31
Clarksville PD - Glock 22
Montgomery County SO - Sig Sauer in .40

GMHAYESUSN
November 13, 2010, 02:34 PM
Washington State Patrol S&W M&P .40 S&W

Sapper771
November 13, 2010, 06:38 PM
In Tennessee:

Tennessee Highway Patrol: Glock 31/32/33
Jefferson City PD: Glock 21
Bean Station PD: Glock 21
Hamblen County SO: Glock 32
Jefferson County SO: Glock 22
Johnson City PD: HK USP 45
Newport PD: Glock 22
Cocke County SO: Glock 22
Knoxville PD: Glock 22

deafdave3
November 14, 2010, 11:50 AM
St. Martin Parish Sheriff's Office (Louisiana) is issued G21SF.

IlikeSA
November 15, 2010, 02:21 AM
Columbus, Georgia PD issues the Smith and Wesson 4506.
Muscogee County Sheriff Office issues the Glock 21.
Muscogee County Marshall Office issues Glock 21s as well.

Whoops, my mistake. The G 21 is the .45 caliber Glock, isn't it?

cesarv
November 15, 2010, 03:02 AM
-L.A. County Sheriff- Beretta 92FS, (9mm Para)
-LAPD- Issues Glock 22, (.40 S&W), but can qualify and carry from various Berettas, Glocks, and Smith & Wessons, in (9mm and 40 S&W).
-LAPD SWAT- Kimber Custom TLE II (.45 ACP)
-CA Highway Patrol- Smith & Wesson Model 4006 TSW, (.40 S&W)

Sheriff Lee Baca- an unloaded Beretta 92FS, due to a domestic violence issue a few years ago, according to a buddy of mine who is a deputy at L.A. County Sheriff. LOL!!!

golden
November 15, 2010, 03:11 AM
U.S. Customs & Border Protection including the Border Patrol carry H&K P2000 .40 caliber with the LEM trigger.

JEB
November 15, 2010, 03:19 AM
iowa

Iowa state patrol: smith and wesson M&P40
Van Buren County sheriff: Glock 17
Jefferson county Sheriff: Glock 22
Ottumwa PD: Glock 22

Full Metal Jacket
November 15, 2010, 04:59 AM
Detroit just dropped their glock 22/23's for the m&p 40's (and their AR counterparts) about a year ago.

MI staties still carry SIGs.

most suburbs carry glocks..

Full Metal Jacket
November 15, 2010, 05:00 AM
U.S. Customs & Border Protection including the Border Patrol carry H&K P2000 .40 caliber with the LEM trigger.

the ones that shoot at my range don't have the LEM triggers. they're the US customs agents on the canadian/detroit border.

ccsniper
November 15, 2010, 05:12 AM
Fort Smith AR, Glock 22
Van Buren AR Glock 22

Cards81fan
November 15, 2010, 03:03 PM
Tulsa Police Department: Glock 22c
Oklahoma Highway Patrol: Sig 226 in .357 SIG (though you can qualify and carry others)
Broken Arrow SOT: Wilson 1911 CQB (no idea what regular duty issue is, though I believe it is a Glock of some variant)

SpeedAKL
November 15, 2010, 03:12 PM
Great thread!

It's amazing how popular the M&P has become despite only being on the market a few years. I need to shoot one and see what the hype is about. I'm a bit surprised to see the Springfield XD not listed much, but I've seen some reports of reliability issues once the rounds pile up....

For Virginia cops:
State Police - SIG Pro in .357SIG
Blacksburg, VA - Glock in .40S&W
Roanoke, VA - Glock in .40S&W
Salem, VA - seems to be a mix of Beretta 92 and Glock in 9mm
Fairfax County, VA - I've seen a mix of Glocks and what appear to be H&Ks

Full Metal Jacket
November 15, 2010, 04:43 PM
I'm a bit surprised to see the Springfield XD not listed much

why? :eek:

Cards81fan
November 15, 2010, 05:10 PM
Great thread!

It's amazing how popular the M&P has become despite only being on the market a few years. I need to shoot one and see what the hype is about. I'm a bit surprised to see the Springfield XD not listed much, but I've seen some reports of reliability issues once the rounds pile up....

For Virginia cops:
State Police - SIG Pro in .357SIG
Blacksburg, VA - Glock in .40S&W
Roanoke, VA - Glock in .40S&W
Salem, VA - seems to be a mix of Beretta 92 and Glock in 9mm
Fairfax County, VA - I've seen a mix of Glocks and what appear to be H&Ks
The lack of use of the XD is likely related more to the the marketing of it to agencies than the performance of the weapon. Glock and S&W openly court LE agencies to get the contract (not judging, just stating a fact). I do not believe Springfield engages in this, or at least not to the extent that the others do.

highorder
November 15, 2010, 05:32 PM
Cincinnati PD has a long history with S&W. They currently issue the M&P9.

The Hamilton County Sheriff and some other local departments are still carrying 3rd generation S&W autos.

SpeedAKL
November 15, 2010, 07:07 PM
Are problems with XD that widespread? I have never been overly interested in one and as such haven't done too much research.

Quoheleth
November 15, 2010, 07:53 PM
Houston, TX Police Department:

Smith & Wesson M&P, .40 caliber
Glock Models 22, 22C, 23, or 23C, .40 caliber
Springfield Armory Model XD-40 Duty, .40 caliber
Sig-Sauer Model P229, DA/SA or DAK Versions, .40 caliber
Sig Sauer Model P226, DA/SA or DAK versions, .40 caliber

Officers must choose one of those 5 pistols as their duty weapon.

Unless something has changed in the last 10 months since he retired, a member of my church who was with HPD said old-timers who had been carrying various previously approved guns can continue carrying them if they can continue to qualify with them. He, for example, has a Smith 4006 and his partner had carried a Smith model 19 revolver for years before switching to a Glock 22 about 4 years ago. After he retired he went to work for a local County Constable and he's continuing to carry the 4006 even though he owns a brand new G22.

For what it's worth...

Q

sniper4usmc
November 15, 2010, 08:13 PM
Costa Mesa PD,in Orange County,CA
USP 40

joe_security
November 16, 2010, 12:00 PM
Does anyone know what is issued by Wisconsin State Patrol ?

dogsoldier0513
November 16, 2010, 12:16 PM
Selmer PD, Selmer, TN issues G22s and G23s as of 08/2003. Prior to that, if you could qualify with it you could carry it.

Ben86
November 16, 2010, 12:17 PM
The consensus seams to be Glock, M&P, Sig, or some sort of 1911. Not bad choices I must say.

The MS highway patrol use the Glock 22 I believe and the Hancock county sheriff deputies can pretty much carry whatever auto they want as long as they buy it, it's from a reputable manufacturer and chambered in 9mm and up. Most of what I see come from the above mentioned sources. I have also seen some ruger p95s and some old smith and wessons.

AJChenMPH
November 16, 2010, 12:31 PM
NYPD-Glock 17 (9mm)
Unfortunately, nope -- it's always been a G19, with the famous (notorious?) NY-1/NY-2 trigger.

Also authorized for uniform carry: SIG 226 DAO and the S&W 5946.

Off-duty: SIG 239, Glock 26 and S&W 3953...there may be a few more that they're authorized for off-duty carry, but those are the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

Ammo: 9mm Speer GD 124+P

Cards81fan
November 16, 2010, 01:16 PM
Are problems with XD that widespread? I have never been overly interested in one and as such haven't done too much research.
No, they are not.

The only issues that are widespread (or, more than an isolated incident) were finish problems on early (pre-Melonite) models. The finish was updated and Springfield refinished the affected, flawed models at no charge if the owner requested.

rscalzo
November 16, 2010, 01:23 PM
Everyone I know in NYPD carries either a Glock, Sig, or S&W in 9mm.

They are given the option or any of them although the third generation S&W is no longer produced and dropped from the list. I haven't heard of a replacement as of yet.

wojownik
November 16, 2010, 02:45 PM
VA State police - Sig P229 in .357SIG
Fairfax County, VA Police - Sig P229 in .40 (I've seen 9mm as well)
Henrico County, VA - Glock 22
Prince William County - Glock 21

Narwhal
November 16, 2010, 02:48 PM
Unless something has changed in the last 10 months since he retired, a member of my church who was with HPD said old-timers who had been carrying various previously approved guns can continue carrying them if they can continue to qualify with them. He, for example, has a Smith 4006 and his partner had carried a Smith model 19 revolver for years before switching to a Glock 22 about 4 years ago. After he retired he went to work for a local County Constable and he's continuing to carry the 4006 even though he owns a brand new G22.

For what it's worth...

Q

Thanks, I got all my info from this blog http://www.hpdblog.com/2010/10/what-kind-of-pistols.html

It's geared toward new cadets, so I don't know if officers are allowed to grandfather in their old weapons or not. I don't have any friends in the HPD, only responded since I live there now.

Ben86
November 16, 2010, 03:31 PM
I'm happy to hear that more police departments are allowing officers to choose from a wide range of guns. As long as it's economically and logistically feasible, it's great to allow the officers to use the guns that they can shoot the best.

Hedgemeister
November 16, 2010, 03:51 PM
Glendale, AZ Glock 22 and 27. You have the option to purchase and go with the 17, 26. Pretty much all of Phoenix metro is glock in one form or another.

Float Pilot
November 16, 2010, 04:19 PM
Alaska State Troopers: Glock 22 (40 cal) pistol for uniform use. Colt AR-15 as patrol rifle, Rem 870 as shotgun and H&K MP-5 as a sub-gun. M-700s are used as tactical rifles.

Anchorage Alaska Police dept: Glock 21s (45) with option of G-22s for smaller folks. Plus options for personal purchase.
HK53s and MP-5s for special units.

Cordova Alaska,: They were carrying HK Squeeze-Cockers in 40 cal a few years ago. I don't know now.

Local PD: Personal Purchase option.

Alaska Probation and Parole: Mini Glocks are issued in 40 cal. Personal purchase and carry option varies with the political winds.

new ak47 2010
November 16, 2010, 06:25 PM
sterling co police department:glock in 45 and 40
sterling co sheriff office:glock in 45 and 40

Full Metal Jacket
November 16, 2010, 07:55 PM
Are problems with XD that widespread? I have never been overly interested in one and as such haven't done too much research.

i had an XD45,and the only things it did consistently were jamming and providing poor accuracy. that's no common, but i know a lot of folks have mentioned parts breaking at not so high round counts.

also, larry vickers referred to XD's as range toys (for what it's worth). no serious combat operators use XD's. the croation military and thunder ranch's clint smith don't count lol

SharpsDressedMan
November 16, 2010, 08:27 PM
I guess Larry Vickers hasn't been shot with one yet. It may not last as long as an 80,000 round GLock, or even a 20,000 round 1911, but I wouldn't want to bet my life that it wouldn't kill me or someone else, in a very efficent manner. I just fired friend's .45 XDM last week, and it worked just fine. I hit every metal plate I fired at at 20 yards.

Full Metal Jacket
November 16, 2010, 11:10 PM
I guess Larry Vickers hasn't been shot with one yet.

i don't think he's been shot with a high point either.....what's your point? :eek:

pikid89
November 17, 2010, 02:19 AM
Lee Co FL Glock 22 or 21 deputies choice

FHP Glock 21

Florida Gulf Coast University UPD Glock 22 i think...ill have to ask one sometime

HK-Freak
November 17, 2010, 02:49 AM
Fairbanks, AK PD; Glock 22

North Pole, AK PD; Glock 22

Athens-Clarke County, GA PD; Glock 22

Charleston, S.C. PD; Glock 22

Washington, D.C. Metropolitan PD; Glock 22

Seattle, WA PD; Glock 22 (Gen 4)

Massachusetts State Police; SIG P226 (.40)

The Pentagon PD (DoD); Glock 22

Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE); HK P2000 (.40)

U.S. Secret Service; SIG P229 (.40)

Federal Air Marshal Service; SIG 229 (.357 SIG)

FBI; Glock 22 & 23

yjon35mtrs
November 17, 2010, 10:35 PM
PAPD (Port Authority of NY & NJ) Glock 19 on duty. Off duty 9mm DAO is the requirement.

CornCod
November 17, 2010, 11:46 PM
My own agency: Arkansas Dept. of Correction

SERT Teams, Wardens, Deputy Wardens and Supervisors: .40 Glock
Everyone Else (including me): Smith and Wesson Model 64 .38 Special

Carter
November 17, 2010, 11:54 PM
Federal Air Marshal Service; SIG 229 (.357 SIG)

Why would an air marshal want to use a round known for penetration....on an airplane...?

Narwhal
November 18, 2010, 12:15 AM
Maybe they have steel core rounds or something designed to penetrate body armor. I've heard they were even considering going to the FN five seven due to concerns over armor (even if not necessarily body armor, something such as attackers shielding themselves with a backpack full of books).

AJChenMPH
November 18, 2010, 12:17 AM
Why would an air marshal want to use a round known for penetration....on an airplane...?
Apparently, they don't...but they're forced to (or at least as of four years ago): Air Marshals Warn Their Bullets Are Too Powerful (http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/daily-news-article/air_marshals_warn_their_bullets_are_too_powerful/)

And interesting discussion here (http://www.realpolice.net/forums/federal-questions-51/8344-air-marshal-bullets.html) about their ammo.

ETA: and oh yeah, one more agency and weapon:

Tufts University PD: S&W M&P-40 (I'm actually assuming it's an M&P-40, since they transitioned to a 3rd-gen S&W .40 just as I was graduating, and I saw M&P's on their hip last year when I visited the campus)

aliasneo07
November 18, 2010, 03:27 AM
MD State Police -- Beretta Px4 Storm in .40. Maybe cause theres a beretta plant here. I believe they had Beretta 96s before and recently switched to the storm.

PT1911
November 18, 2010, 03:34 AM
in case you were wondering about Anniston/Oxford Alabama

Glocks in .40

Deputy25
November 18, 2010, 10:39 AM
Pennsylvania Game Commission: Glock 31/Glock 33 back-up 125gr Speer Gold Dot.
Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission: Beretta 96D
Pennsylvania State Parks: Smith and Wesson M&P .40
Pennsylvania State Police: Glock 37
Pennsylvania Parole Agents: Glock 19

As you can see, state ammo contract is probably a little more complicated than it needs to be...

Quiet
November 18, 2010, 08:16 PM
State Law Enforcement Agencies
AL = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
AK = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
AZ = SIG P229 (.40S&W)
AR = Glock 21SF RTF2 (.40ACP)
CA = S&W Model 4006TSW (.40S&W)
CO = S&W M&P40 (.40S&W)
CT = SIG P229 (.40S&W)
DE = SIG P229 (.40S&W)
FL = Glock 37Gen4 (.45GAP)
GA = Glock 37 (.45GAP)
HI = S&W Model 5906 (9x19)
ID = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
IL = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
IN = Glock 17 (9x19)
IA = S&W M&P40 (.40S&W)
KS = Glock 21 (.45ACP)
KY = Glock 35 (.40S&W)
LA = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
ME = H&K USP45 (.45ACP)
MD = Beretta PX4 (.40S&W)
MA = SIG P226 (.40S&W)
MI = SIG P226 (.40S&W)
MN = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
MS = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
MO = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
MT = SIG P229 (.40S&W)
NE = Glock 21 (.45ACP)
NH = S&W M&P45 (.45ACP)
NV = SIG P229 (.40S&W)
NJ = SIG P228 (9x19)
NM = S&W M&P357 (.357SIG)
NY = Glock 37 (.45GAP)
NC = S&W M&P357 (.357SIG)
ND = S&W Model 4506 (.45ACP)
OH = SIG P226 (.40S&W)
OK = SIG P226 (.357SIG)
OR = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
PA = Glock 37 (.45GAP)
RI = SIG P226 (.357SIG)
SC = Glock 37 (.45GAP)
SD = SIG P229 (.357SIG)
TN = Glock 31 (.357SIG)
TX = SIG P226 (.357SIG)
UT = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
VT = SIG P229 (.40S&W)
VA = SIG P229 (.357SIG)
WA = S&W M&P40 (.40S&W)
WV = S&W Model 4566TSW (.45ACP)
WI = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
WY = Glock 22 (.40S&W)

Federal Law Enfocement Agencies
Bureau of Alcohol Tobbacco Firearms & Explosives = [agent choice] Glock 23 (.40S&W) or S&W M&P40 (.40S&W)
Drug Enforcement Agency = Glock 23 (.40S&W)
Federal Air Marshal = SIG P229 (.357SIG)
Federal Bureau of Investigation = Glock 23 (.40S&W)
Immigration Control Enforcement = H&K P2000 (.40S&W)
Naval Criminal Investigative Service = SIG P229 (.40S&W)
US Coast Guard = SIG P229 (.40S&W)
US Secret Service = SIG P229 (.357SIG)

Local Law Enfocement Agencies
Los Angeles Police Department = Glock 22 (.40S&W)
Los Angeles County Sheriff Department = Beretta Model 92FS (9x19)
San Bernardino County Sheriff Department = [deputy choice] Glock 17 (9x19) or Glock 21 (.45ACP)
Washington DC Police Department = Glock 17 (9x19)

Locojmc
November 18, 2010, 08:33 PM
San Antonio PD Glock 22

Cards81fan
November 18, 2010, 11:26 PM
I forgot one:

Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation: XDm in .40

txhoghunter
November 22, 2010, 10:50 PM
Texas Rangers are allowed to carry any sidearm with them on duty, so long as they can qualify with it. But the Sig Sauer P226 .357 sig is standard issue. .45's are also widely carried.

http://www.texasranger.org/today/Equipment.htm

Harley Quinn
November 23, 2010, 10:06 AM
Quiet...
Thanks for posting that, shows what many seem to know 40 S&W is very much the caliber in majority...I can go for that or the 9 mm because of extra rounds available to put down range, on me;)

I have a 9mm as my main carry (Glock in a 17) and a Glock 21 in 45 around the house... I put a 17 slide on top of my 22 Glock in a 5 pound pull, rather than my 17L in a lighter trigger weight...:)


I switch around at times 357 Sig or 40 S&W in the 22 model...Then I can switch my model 21 into a 400 Corbon or 10 mm...All good stuff imho...
Regards

REAPER4206969
November 23, 2010, 10:45 AM
Lot of Perfection in this thread!

Here is the FBI order for more Glock 23's:
Jul 16, 2010 9:27 am

PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE NOTICE CAREFULLY AS IT CONSTITUTES THE ONLY NOTICE THAT WILL BE ISSUED. This is a combined synopsis/solicitation for commercial items prepared in accordance with the format in Subpart 12.6, as supplemented with additional information in this request. This announcement constitutes the only solicitation. This procurement is being conducted under Federal Acquisition Regulation Parts 12 and 13. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is issuing this acquisition as a Request for Quote (RFQ) under solicitation number RFQ 0200727. The NAICS Code for this requirement is 332994-Small Arms Manufacturing: The size standard for this requirement is 1000 employees. This requirement is a 100% small business set-aside. This requirement is for brand name only.


The resultant contract will be a firm-fixed price contract. The requirement is for the following:


Quantity Description


2,963 each Glock Model 23 pistol, with smooth trigger, extended slide stop, medium magazine catch, tritium sights, 6 magazines


Shipping Condition: Shipping must be free on board (FOB) destination CONUS. Quotes shall include all shipping costs to Quantico, VA. Equipment Condition: New Equipment ONLY; No remanufactured or "gray market" items. All items must be covered by the manufacturer's warranty. Offer Period: Bid must be good for 30 calendar days after close of this posting. Delivery must be made within 70 days or less after receipt of order (ARO).


Responses shall be submitted via electronic submission to Amy Lacy at aelacy@fbiacademy.edu. The due date for responses to this RFQ is on or before July 23, 2010, 10:00 am (Eastern Time). Responses must be marked as follows: "RFQ 0200727." All correspondence regarding this requirement must be submitted to Amy Lacy via email only. Quotes shall include a point of contact, contractor DUN's number and TIN number.


This RFQ incorporates the provisions and clauses that are in effect through Federal Acquisition Regulation Circular 2005-44. The provision at FAR Clause 52.212-1, Instructions to Offerors (Nov 2007) and addendum are incorporated into this solicitation. Addendum to 52.212-1, Modify: (b) Submission of offer(s) is to read as follows: "Submit offers electronically to aelacy@fbiacademy.edu. Provision 52.212-2, Evaluation - Commercial Items is incorporated by reference. This requirement will be awarded to the low price technically acceptable (LPTA) offeror. Brand Name Justification: Glock weapons are the standard issued service pistol for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Provision 52.212-3 Offeror Representations and Certifications-Commercial Items is incorporated. Contractors may submit their online Representations and Certifications Application (ORCA) at the following government portal: http://orca.bpn.gov. Clauses 52.212-4 Contract Terms and Conditions-Commercial Items, and 52.212-5 Contract Terms and Conditions Required to Implement Statues or Executive Orders, Commercial Items, apply to this solicitation. The following additional clauses under FAR 52.212-5 are applicable: 5) 52.219-6, Notice of Total Small Business Set-Aside; 16) 52.222-3, Convict Labor; 17) 52.222-19, Child Labor; 18) 52.222-21, Prohibition of Segregated Facilities; 19) 52.222-26, Equal Opportunity; 20) 52.222-35, Equal Opportunity for Special Disabled Veterans; 21) 52.222-36, Affirmative Action for Workers with Disabilities; 22) 52.222-37, Employment Reports on Special Disabled Veterans; 23) 52.222-39, 29) 52.225-13, Restrictions on Certain Foreign Purchases; 34) Payment by Electronic Funds Transfer - Central Contractor Registration. The awardee shall be registered in the Central Contractor Registration Database. All quotes will be considered.

Added: <input type="hidden" value="2010-07-20 09:05:49" name="dnf_class_values[procurement_notice][description][1][added_on]" />Jul 20, 2010 9:05 am
*****************************************************************
Modification #1

See Questions/Answers below:

(Q) In reference to the medium magazine catch, is this the magazine catch that the Bureau developed with Glock?

(A) It is mid-way in length between a standard magazine catch and an extended magazine catch.

(Q) Is there a specific format in which you would like to see this proposal?

(A) The quote should contain the company name/address and POC information, DUNS #, Tax ID Number, description and/or stock numbers and pricing. If you wish to submit an SF 1449 that is accepted as well.

(Q) In reference to your current solicitation for 2,963 Glock model 23 handguns, do you have the specific item number for the exact Glock handgun that you woule like to purchase?

(A) The item number will be Pistol, Model: G23-.40 caliber.
<label for="dnf_class_values_procurement_notice__office_address_">Contracting Office Address</label>:
FBI Engineering Research Facility, FBI Academy
Quantico, Virginia 22135
<label for="dnf_class_values_procurement_notice__place_of_performance_">Place of Performance</label>:
FBI Academy
Quantico, Virginia 22135
United States

Ben86
November 23, 2010, 12:10 PM
I like how they demand free shipping. :D

FastMover
November 24, 2010, 11:14 AM
In TN:
Mt. Juliet PD- G21
Metro Nashville PD- G22
Williamson County Sheriff Dept.-G22
Brentwood PD- M&P .45
Spring Hill PD- G22
Maury County Sheriff Dept.- G21
Columbia PD- HK USP .45

rromeo
November 24, 2010, 11:53 AM
Ironic?

NH State Police = S&W M&P45 (.45ACP)
MASS State Police = SIG P226 (.40S&W)

JCOrtiz
February 15, 2011, 11:26 PM
Puerto Rico PD , S&W 5906 , Glock 23 , now switching to S&W MP40, comes with 3/15 rounds mag.

Winkman822
February 16, 2011, 12:10 AM
Delaware State Police run the Sig P229R in .357 SIG. Newark PD also runs the Sig P229R, but I'm not sure of the chambering. Delaware Department of Corrections runs the P229R as well, but again, I'm unsure of chambering. New Castle County Police run Smith and Wesson M&P in either 9mm or .40 (not 100% sure) and the Wilmington City Police are running a mixture of Smith and Wesson SW99s chambered for .40 which are being phased out for Smith and Wesson M&Ps in the same chambering.

smcd1983
February 16, 2011, 02:05 AM
Fairfax, VA issues SIG 226 in .40

starbuck
February 17, 2011, 04:01 PM
Newport News, VA Sheriff's Office - SIG P229DAK .357SIG
Norfolk, VA PD - Glock 22 .40S&W
Norfolk, VA Sheriff's Office - S&W M&P .40S&W
Chesapeake, VA PD - H&K USP .40 (Uniform) H&K USP Compact .40 (Plain clothes)

Ala Dan
February 17, 2011, 04:45 PM
U.S. Marshal's Service requires the .40 caliber Glock 22; as per a friend, who is a deputy U.S. Marshal~! ;) :cool: :D

KeeFus
November 14, 2011, 12:40 AM
Wilson, NC PD: Sig 226 in .357sig
Wilson County NC SO: G-21
Henderson, NC PD: G-22
Vance County, NC SO: Sig 220
Johnston County, NC SO: G-21SF
Clayton, NC PD: just switched from Hk 45 USP Compact to M&P .45 (mid-size)

RON in PA
November 14, 2011, 06:41 AM
Montgomery County, PA Sheriff's Dept.- S&W M&P 9.

10-96
November 14, 2011, 08:34 AM
Wow, I suprised no one's mentioned my agency yet.

US Dept of Veterans Affairs Police-

Beretta 92D Centurian, Beretta 92FS (Inspectors), and most recently approved: Sig P229R DAK and Sig P239 DAK (for plain clothed Officers/Supervisors/Agents).

archigos
November 14, 2011, 08:40 AM
NY State Police now issues the S&W M&P.

HOOfan_1
November 14, 2011, 11:24 AM
Glock 19 is also allowed.

Richmond, VA I believe the city cops use a Sig Pro.
Henrico County uses Glock 22.

I think someone told me they were switching from the Sig Pro recently. Maybe to the P250...but I am not sure that is correct.
Henrico used to use SIG P220...surprised they switched.

Virginia Capital Police use Beretta Px4 Storm .40 S&W (I work with some of them and saw one in their holster)
Virginia State Police use SIG P229 .357 SIG I think maybe DAK

MikeNice
November 15, 2011, 09:04 AM
The last I heard, the North Carolina Central University Campus Police still carry the S&W 4003.

Stasher1
November 15, 2011, 09:40 PM
Gwinnett County SO (GA) - Glock 22

FIVETWOSEVEN
November 15, 2011, 10:45 PM
U.S. Marshal's Service requires the .40 caliber Glock 22; as per a friend, who is a deputy U.S. Marshal~!

Psh! I already knew that! I watched that movie: US Marshalls

ChCx2744
November 16, 2011, 07:22 PM
I'm fairly certain a majority of P.D.s in the U.S. carry Glocks or S&W M&Ps in 9mm or .40 S&W. But that's just a fairly confident assumption on my part.

FIVETWOSEVEN
November 16, 2011, 07:41 PM
Lot of Marketing Hype in this thread!

Fixed that for you.

HOOfan_1
November 16, 2011, 08:19 PM
I'm fairly certain a majority of P.D.s in the U.S. carry Glocks or S&W M&Ps in 9mm or .40 S&W. But that's just a fairly confident assumption on my part.

From my limited observations I think SIG might outrank M&P in Law Enforcement adoption.

MikeNice
November 16, 2011, 08:48 PM
In the area where I live a lot of departments are replacing the SIG with the S&W. The S&W seems to fit a wider range of hands and be easier to qualify with.

Plus the S&W offers more configuration customization options. S&W will basically build the gun however the department needs it. Do you want a decocker with a mag drop safety? They will do it. If you want a manual safety with no mag drop safety, they do it. If you want an oversized manual safety and mag release with a mag drop safety in compact size, they do it.

The price, service, reliability, and customization are pushing S&W to the front of the pack.

Deputy25
November 16, 2011, 08:50 PM
PA State Police Glock 37 .45 GAP
PA State Parks SW M&P 9mm
PA Game Commission Glock 31 .357 Sig
PA Fish and Boat Commission Beretta 96D DAO .40
PA State Parole Agents Glock 19 9mm

ChCx2744
November 17, 2011, 01:32 AM
From my limited observations I think SIG might outrank M&P in Law Enforcement adoption.

You may want to look into that. I don't know any concrete numbers or statistics, but I personally think that statement is wrong.

bushmaster0
November 24, 2011, 09:43 PM
Albemarle County Police and Sheriff glock 22 40sw ar-15 rem 870
City Of charlottesville Glock 21 45acp hk .223
uva police glock 22 40sw
va state police sig 229 .357 sig colt m4
fluvanna sheriff sig 226 40sw
lake monticello glock 22 40sw and sig 226 9mm
greene county sheriff glock 22 40sw

bushmaster0
November 24, 2011, 09:57 PM
According to the U.S. Marshal's website, the primary handgun for Marshals is the Glock 22 or Glock 23 in .40 S&W caliber, and each deputy may carry a backup handgun of their choice if it meets certain requirements. Members of the US Marshal SOG Teams are armed with M1911A1 Springfield TRP Pistol (.45 ACP). Marshals are also equipped with AR-15s and 12-gauge shotguns.

The US Federal Air Marshal Service signed a multi-million dollar contract for procurement of the SIG Sauer P250 Compact chambered for the .357 SIG cartridge in 2009.[14]

bushmaster0
November 24, 2011, 09:59 PM
An FBI Special Agent is issued a Glock Model 22 pistol or a Glock 23 in .40 S&W caliber. If they fail their first qualification, they will be issued either a Glock 17 or Glock 19 to aid in their next qualification. New agents are issued their firearm with which they qualify, upon successful completion of their training at the FBI Academy. The Glock 26 in 9mm Luger, and Glock Models 23, and 27 in .40 S&W caliber are authorized as secondary weapons. Special Agents are authorized to purchase and qualify with the Glock Model 21 in .45 ACP for duty carry. Special Agents of the FBI HRT (Hostage Rescue Team), and regional SWAT teams are issued the Springfield Operator or Professional Model 1911A1 .45 ACP Pistol

bushmaster0
November 24, 2011, 10:05 PM
DEA agents' primary service weapons are the Glock 22 and Glock 23 in .40 S&W caliber ammunition, DEA agents can also qualify to use the Glock 27 and SIG Pro in .40 S&W. They also have the option of using the newly appointed Smith & Wesson M&P series pistol. H&K UMP40 in .40 S&W is the standard SMG. Shotguns such as the Remington 870 are used. They use assault rifles like Rock River Arms CAR-A4 DEA Carbine
CE HSI Special Agents and ERO Officers and Agents carry the SIG-Sauer P229R pistol, with the DAK (Double Action Kellerman) trigger pull, chambered in the .40 S&W caliber cartridge, as their primary sidearm. Secondary weapons are on a list of authorized weapons published by the agency to its agents and officers. They also may be assigned the Remington Model 870 shotgun, the Steyr AUG rifle, or the Colt M4 carbine. Agents and officers assigned to a Special Response Team (SRT) are specifically assigned the Colt M4 carbine while some operators may also carry the Heckler & Koch MP5 submachine gun, although these are being replaced by the Heckler & Koch UMP in .40 S&W.[11]
USSS Special Agents and Uniformed Division Officers carry the SIG Sauer P229 pistol chambered for the .357 SIG cartridge,[39] or the FN Five-seven pistol chambered for the 5.7x28mm cartridge.[40] Agents and Officers are also trained on close-combat weapons such as the Remington 870 shotgun, the FN P90 submachine gun, and the HK MP5.[

torrejon224
November 25, 2011, 07:46 PM
Springfield Or PD: Glock 21
Eugene Or PD: Sig 220
Lane County Or PD: Sig 220
Oregon State Police: Sig 220
Newport & Lincoln City Or PD: Springfield TRP
Portland PD: Glock 17/19 (Used to be G21)
Las Vegas Metro PD: Beretta, Colt, S&W, Kimber, HK, Ruger, Glock, Para Ordnance, Unertl, Sig, Wilson Combat, Springfield or Steyr. Must be DA/SA, SA or Striker fired and a minimum of 3.5 barrel length (new recruits are given a $575 voucher for purchase). Issue was S&W 5946, unsure what it is currently
New Jersey State Police: Sig 229 in 9mm
Philly PD: Glock 21sf

edison
November 26, 2011, 02:54 AM
I don't believe I saw my wife's agency. Toledo, Oh, city police. She was issued a 40 cal Sig 226. She says they do allow the smaller Sigs now, but she doesn't know the model numbers. TPD moved up from the 9mm Sig 226s a few years ago.

edison

ahpd1992
November 26, 2011, 11:48 PM
So many agencies with the 40 slow and weak, I cant expain why but I have no use for this caliber, if you want a 40 caliber auto tham why oh why dont you use a 10mm. Just color me a 40 hater

My pd allows a wide range of calibers and guns, but we buy our own.

HOOfan_1
November 27, 2011, 12:35 AM
40 slow and weak,.

using what metric?

The 180 grainer are as fast as or faster than 147 gr. 9mm and hit as hard as or harder than 230 gr. .45 ACP

Why not just go the Dirty Harry route and issue .44 Magnums to everyone?

2zulu1
November 27, 2011, 02:15 AM
Cochise County SO, Colt 1911 45auto
Graham County SO, Springfield XD Tactical 45auto

wlewisiii
November 27, 2011, 02:37 AM
So many agencies with the 40 slow and weak, I cant expain why but I have no use for this caliber, if you want a 40 caliber auto tham why oh why dont you use a 10mm. Just color me a 40 hater

My pd allows a wide range of calibers and guns, but we buy our own.
Snort. While I firmly believe that the .40 is a solution in search of a problem, I somehow can't imagine we have the same view of the cartridge. I am firmly of the opinion that it's far overpowered for 99% of what it's called on to do. I believe that a .38 Special +P or 9mm +P will do as well if not better, IMHO, than the .40 S&W almost every time. You seem to thing that it's not strong enough? Considering the 125gr .357 Magnum problem, may I enquire what you think is an appropriate chambering?

ahpd1992
November 27, 2011, 08:21 AM
well now that you mention it, I believe the 125gr 357 magnum is about perfect. I carry a glock 35 converted to 357sig.

nyresq
November 29, 2011, 06:53 PM
The US Federal Air Marshal Service signed a multi-million dollar contract for procurement of the SIG Sauer P250 Compact chambered for the .357 SIG cartridge in 2009.[14]

That contract was cancelled... Marshals have the choice of the 229 or the 239 for duty carry. Both are DA/SA in 357 sig.




Nassau County PD (NY) just switched over to the 229DAK and the 226DAK (officers choice) in 40. for the past 15 or 20 years they carried the 226 DAO in 9mm.

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