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Gotammo
November 12, 2010, 02:46 PM
Just started to get into swagging, picked up some equipment from Carolina Reloaders Club and wanted to find some guys who have experience with this.
I have a few 5 gal buckets of 22 brass and have the stuff coming for making 40 and 44 rounds. Any advise would be great or any links to the " How Too's " would be awesome
Thanks

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rcmodel
November 12, 2010, 02:59 PM
Corbin website has a lot of info:
http://www.corbins.com/

I doubt you can make .40 & .44 jackets out of .22 RF brass though.
Not enough case there for that big a jacket.

All I have seen them used for is to make .224" & .243" rifle bullets.

rc

ReloaderFred
November 12, 2010, 04:02 PM
You can use 9x19 cases to make .40 S&W bullets, and .40 S&W cases to make .44 and .45 bullets. I'm using .380 cases to make .357 bullets, and .32 Auto cases to make 9mm bullets. They have to be fully annealed before starting, or it won't work.

There is a lot of information on this subject here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?f=41

Read through the posts and you'll find a treasure trove of knowledge.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Gotammo
November 12, 2010, 07:46 PM
Thanks for the info and links guys, I certainly can use the help and the education

MichaelK
November 13, 2010, 12:27 PM
I'm swaging bullets the same way Fred is. Here's an example of how I make .357 bullets out of .380 auto cases. I'm using CH dies bought at www.CH4D.com on a Rockchucker press.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/kawalekm/380Autocaseto357bullet.jpg
I use SportFlite dies on my Rockchucker to make .22 bullets.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/kawalekm/Swaged22bullet.jpg
Then, 9mm cases to make .40 caliber bullets, and .40 cases to make 44 magnum bullets.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/kawalekm/9mmcaseto40caliberbullet.jpg
I've even made bullets out of .223 cases that I cut in half. Want to buy/make a .35 Whelen just so I can shoot the .35 caliber rifle bullets I've made!
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/kawalekm/223caseto357jackets.jpg
In any case, there's just a few basic processes to complete, how you prepare your brass jackets, and how you prepare your lead cores.

Typically, I anneal brass on the kitchen stove till it's dull red in dim light. I might want to try leaving a can full of cases in the woodstove some time. As long as you can get them to about 700-800 degrees F they'll be soft enough to swage. If you noticed, .380 brass has a diameter of about .372-.374". After annealing I size it down to .356 in my Lyman lubesizer, then swage it back up to .357" in the CH swaging die. In general, you want to always increase the diameter of the finished bullet, not decrease it.

I've made cores four ways. I have cast lead cores (pic #1), cut lead wire (pic #2), and cast bullets in pure lead to make cores. I've also dipped empty cases into molten lead to fill and set aside to solidify. That gives you an annealed case and bonded core in one step.

Hope you have fun. If you already have a compound linkage press like a Rockchucker or something similar, all you need is a die set, which you can get from CH for ~135$. Remember though to go slow. I broke a Rockchucker in half by being too hefty on the lever.

Try to find one of the older editions of "ABCs of Reloading" by Dean Grennell. He always had a chapter or two dedicated specifically to swaging. That's how I learned how to do it.
Good luck,
Michael

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