Republic/Cobra Patriot .45's


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Sarge
December 20, 2003, 01:09 PM
I'd like to hear the skinny, good & bad, from those of you who have bought & used one of these, or shot a couple hundred rounds through one as a rental gun. The whole notion of a 20 oz. .45 DAO is beginning to tempt me pretty badly, and I like the fact that they (apparently) use Colt Officers ACP mags.

Opinions?

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Edward429451
December 20, 2003, 01:38 PM
We bought one of those awhile back. Super neato, great concept, officers mags, all of that. It lasted one trip to the range when it convinced us that 45acp has no place in a plastic pistol that small. At least with my standard practice loads.

We sold it back to the guy who laughed and said it had that effect on him to. I suppose you could tailor a light load for it but why bother when one of these days the ammo will be take what you can get and it wont be a tailored load.

YMMV.

Tropical Z
December 20, 2003, 03:09 PM
These have been tempting me for some time as well.I just emailed Cobra asking some very specific ?'s about trigger weight,construction,warranty etc.Ill report back when i receive an answer.If they operate like Hi-Point,ill have an answer by tuesday.If they operate like Springfield,ill be receiving the answer and opening it on my new 6.2GHz computer 3 years from now!

JackDRipper
December 20, 2003, 05:16 PM
The Rebublic Arms Patriot is a nice pistol for the money. Haven't seen the Cobra version so I don't know if it is the same quality. It is a handful to shoot but makes a great carry gun because of it's small size and light weight. A couple years ago there was lots of positive discussion about the Patriot on the Kel Tec list. Here are some links for more information. JR


http://www.geocities.com/johnboyp45/page1.html
http://www.geocities.com/johnboyp45/page2.html
http://www.geocities.com/johnboyp45/page3.html
http://www.geocities.com/johnboyp45/page4.html

JackDRipper
December 21, 2003, 05:24 PM
Here's a link to the Cobra web site showing the Patriot 45 acp and parts available.

http://www.cobrapistols.com/Double%20Action.htm

They list a couple gun magazine reviews on this page. and I have listed the Patriot info below the link.
JR

http://www.cobrapistols.com/news.htm

....Big-bore fans, here's the one for you, a compact polymer-frame .45 Auto, by master designer Nehemia Sirkis. Here at the start, let's avoid possible confusion about its origin. It was first produced in 1997 by Republic Arms of Chino, California. When Republic Arms went out of business, Cobra Enterprises purchased their parts and access to tooling. Cobra now manufactures their own model, the Patriot 45, which is very similar to the old Republic Arms Patriot.

The Patriot is striker fired, with an automatic internal striker block. The locking system is falling barrel with enclosed track in the barrel underlug. The DAO trigger action is continuous, with no reset. There is a single recoil spring, with a full length guide. Whatever polymer is used for the frame it is tough. The robust sized rails for the stainless steel slide are integral with the frame; there are no steel or alloy inserts. So far I have put about 300 rounds through my gun, including some fairly warm loads and the rails look just the same.

The front of the trigger guard has cross ridges, but is not hooked. The front of the grip is finger-recessed with room for all three fingers of an average hand. The backstrap and the sides have good molded checkering. The square bottom of the steel magazine catch is recessed. There are no other external controls, making the whole thing very flat and concealable. In my early low-number pistol, the magazine was made from the top two-thirds of a regular 1911-pattern magazine., so the counterholes go all the way down. At the bottom, the floorplate is push-button removable.
There is a low full-length sight rib on top of the slide, with lengthwise striations. The square post front sight is integral with the slide. The square notch rear is dove-tail mounted, adjustable laterally by loosening a vertical Allen screw. The vertically ridged trigger has a quick and easy pull and also a hesitation point when pulled slowly, so you can use the sights. Fired with the Federal 185-grain JHP, the Patriot made one amazing 1.13 inch group at 15 yards, just below center, touching the black.
Shooting .45 in a 20-ounce compact pistol, the felt recoil was about what you would expect, but it was not unpleasant. I have fired another compact .45, almost identical in size and weight, with which the felt recoil fell into the "nasty" category....

Sarge
December 21, 2003, 05:32 PM
especially Jack. Good, detailed info like I was looking for.

snubby
December 22, 2003, 10:22 AM
I have a Republic Arms Patriot .45. It handles round-nosed bullets well, but can be finicky with certain hollow point ammo (but it really liked Federal's Hydra-Shoks, maybe because they're more rounded than most other JHPs). I've never tried Corbon's PowerBall through it, but suppose that might be a good choice for SD. Plinking with 230 gr. FMJ and other +P ammo can become tiresome quickly, due to the gun's light weight (a steady diet of +P ammo might be pushing things, though, in such a small gun). Also, its heavy DOA trigger pull takes some getting used to. Once you've played around with it awhile, it's not too bad a pistol for the price. Its size and weight could make it a good deep-concealment big bore option (esp. for someone on a more limited budget).

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