What's the Deal with Cabela's Gun Library Prices?


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MisterMike
November 14, 2010, 08:36 PM
Not a complaint . . . just a matter of curiosity: I don't know a lot about the value of used/collector guns, but anytime I've ventured into a Cabela's Gun Library, the prices are crazy out of line. They all seem high, but it seems especially goofy when the price of used guns in the "Library" is higher than the price of the same gun, new, just a few feet away.

So, what's the deal? Do people really pay these prices?

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rogertc1
November 14, 2010, 08:51 PM
Because used/collector guns sometime can go for more than a new gun. Look here on Gubrokers for prices.

HankB
November 14, 2010, 09:46 PM
Maybe just waiting for a fish to swim by . . .

I've seen things like service-grade mixmaster CMP Garands going for $1500 at Cabela's, and ordinary Bushmaster rifles - just a common model - priced higher that the same exact model at the regular counter.

Local Cabela's has had a nice DWM .30 Luger priced at ~$3k for over a year now . . . Lugers are up, but not that much, for that gun in that condition.

Which is why it hasn't sold.

alienbogey
November 14, 2010, 09:58 PM
The few guns in there for which I am reasonably knowledgable about current prices are at least 50% too high. And those guns are always still there every time I go in - they haven't found a sucker for any of them.

As far as I'm concerned the Cabela's gun library is like a museum except you get to touch them if you want.

22-rimfire
November 14, 2010, 10:07 PM
Haven't checked prices on line at the Cabelas gun library lately. But in the past, most of the guns were priced a little high; not 50%. Occasionally you could find a "bargain" if you looked.

Once a gun moves into the regime of collector guns, the price generally does not refect its shootability but rather its desireablity to collectors.

Shadow 7D
November 14, 2010, 10:13 PM
HA, you can look at the GL on line, and HA, they make the perennial $1 difference GB bids (499 open, 500 buy now) look down right reasonalbe.

hometheaterman
November 15, 2010, 12:03 AM
Some of the ones I've seen have been close to 50% too high. I've seen things that go for around $550 in the local classifieds around here for about $1000 on there. Others are $750 on there for things that normally would bring $500-550. It just depends on what you are looking at, but they are all high and some are 50% too high.

Dookie
November 15, 2010, 02:23 AM
Yeah, cabelas GL is nearly as bad as big 5 for gun prices.

pockets
November 15, 2010, 07:32 AM
I dropped by Cabela's last week, since I was going past it anyway.
A beat-up Raven MP25 with a $150.00 price tag? $150.00 for a Raven?
Looking over the .22 rifles; I saw a used Henry pump action .22LR (not .22 Magnum) for $499.00 .
Yes, Cabela's is a little on the high side....same for their new guns really.

A.H. Fox
November 15, 2010, 07:44 AM
Not a complaint . . . just a matter of curiosity: I don't know a lot about the value of used/collector guns, but anytime I've ventured into a Cabela's Gun Library, the prices are crazy out of line. They all seem high, but it seems especially goofy when the price of used guns in the "Library" is higher than the price of the same gun, new, just a few feet away.

So, what's the deal? Do people really pay these prices?
Yepper, they sure are proud of those used guns. Capitalism is a wonderful thing. Although it ain't so wonderful to price a 12GA pump shotgun higher than a new one.

...hmm...I wonder if they will give me $400 for my "antique" Winchester 1400 Mk II?

Sav .250
November 15, 2010, 07:46 AM
They are in business to make money..........

alfack
November 15, 2010, 11:28 AM
Suckers are born every minute........

7thCavScout
November 15, 2010, 11:45 AM
I always check the Gun Library for a Springfield Model 1873 Trapdoor Carbine, anytime I'm in Cabela's. One these days they're gonna get me.

MisterMike
November 15, 2010, 07:14 PM
Okay, then. I guess that answers my question. :D

Really, I do understand that they're in business to make money. I also understand that their prices for new guns are generally high, and that enough people apparently take the bait to make their pricing strategy worthwhile. Like I said, I'm not anything close to a serious collector, so I won't venture a guess as to whether the true collectibles are overpriced.

It just boggles my mind that they price new-ish used guns at or above the retail price of the equivalent new models (even in their stores). Do they haggle over these items and ultimately sell at prices more in line with the general market?

52grain
November 15, 2010, 07:30 PM
Cabela's is a large company. They probably know what they are doing when they price their guns. Either someone will pay the inflated price, or if they leave the gun sitting there with the high price for a while. As it sits there, it will impart a reference value on people looking at it. Eventually they will mark it down slightly and still sell it for more than what a similar gun might be going for elsewhere.

Also, a lot of the guns in the gun library are collectible and the price of collectibles often makes no sense.

There are certain models that I would gladly pay a bit extra for a well cared for used model. (Think 870 Wingmaster)

oneounceload
November 15, 2010, 10:07 PM
If you check their prices against the Blue Book, you'll see them close enough...there IS room for haggling as well.typically about 10%. You need to know what you are looking at, AND what the value is - (which may or may not be what you are willing to pay, but someone is)

AK103K
November 15, 2010, 10:32 PM
Maybe just waiting for a fish to swim by . . .
My dad saw a Browning 525 listed and had it sent to the store by us. The gun was used, no box or accessories, and really nothing special, and they wanted $2600 for it. While he was looking at it, I went outside to the sales counter to look around. They had brand new 525's on the rack, for $1800. The boy showing the gun just looked at me when I brought it up. Needless to say, it didnt get bought.

I've seen them list Walther P1's in the library for over $500. They were P1's and not P38's. Same time, at the regular counter not 50' away, they had a couple of P1's, in the same shape or better for $279.


Between their deceptive practices and their crappy service/lack of knowledge at the counters, I dont bother with them. Even the rest of the stuff in the store doesnt seem like its much of a deal anymore, especially now that I have to pay sales tax too.

The Lone Haranguer
November 15, 2010, 10:47 PM
A lot of the prices in the Library are pretty high, but it was fun to go in and look at guns that I might not see anywhere else anyway. Once I saw a never fired - not even a cylinder "turn line" - nickel Colt Diamondback that they were asking $2800 for. :what: But someone must have bought it, because it was gone the next time I visited some three days later. Not all of their prices were outrageous, however. I picked up a S&W 3913LS, in like new condition with box and papers, for $449 - not out of line - with an additional $80 off due to a Visa promotion they were running at the time.

bonza
November 16, 2010, 02:17 PM
Some of the guns in the Library are there on consignment so that may have something to do with the closeness of the prices to guns on the retail rack. Still, I've seen some outrageously priced used guns on their 'clearance' racks out front of the Library at their Post Falls, ID location (eg. $500+ for a 'sporterized' SMLE).

FruitCake
November 16, 2010, 09:59 PM
Compared to local gunshops where I live Cabellas is atleast $100 dollars more. I have yet to see a deal on guns anyway to purchase one at my local Cabellas.For example a used Ruger LCPs was going for $350 and in the new section they were $299. What the heck I thought until I noticed it was the same issue with about 90% of the used section. Even their sale prices made me puke. Their sale prices were the regular gun prices at the other local gun shops. I just don't understand why some places are so much more expensive than others especially with these internet times in which in about 10 minutes I can look the prices of a couple of gun shops and know where I'm going to be buying my next hand gun.Even on GunBroker I'm not really impressed with the prices on there. Very rarely do I see a good enough deal,especially with shipping and tranfer fees.

Rembrandt
November 16, 2010, 10:19 PM
I'm intrigued by the number of responses from "tire kickers" who have never bought anything from them or all the talk about $500 guns.....not too many "collectibles" in that price range.

I've bought half a dozen guns from various Cabela's Gun Libraries around the country.....some were a little under, some a little over, and some about right where they should be. One thing I appreciate is the return policy on on-line purchases if it isn't as advertised. The other thing I've found is the quality and condition of "Library Guns" is some of the best found anywhere. Collectibles are simply quality guns that had limited production runs and are in the best condition of what's available for that particular model. To my knowledge only two of the big box chains even offer anything like this....Scheels and Cabelas.

Full Metal Jacket
November 16, 2010, 10:24 PM
their gun librabry has mostly collectible, and also odd ball guns that no one buys (like 50 bmg rifles and wildey automags lol)

Hatterasguy
November 16, 2010, 10:30 PM
I find it very hit and miss, usually some nice stuff but high prices on it. OTOH I pulled my 1911 Swiss rifle out of a Cabela's, much to my surprise.

So I guess the moral is to always look because you don't know when you are going to hit them right and find what your looking for at a decent price.

John Wayne
November 16, 2010, 11:14 PM
They are in business to make money..........

Yeah, but generally large chain stores make money by selling more products at lower prices than the local competition. If their products are more expensive, there is no advantage to shopping at a chain store.

kaferhaus
November 17, 2010, 08:05 AM
While to my knowledge Bass Pro shops doesn't sell used guns.... haven't really looked. I know their reloading and cleaning supplies are MUCH higher than I can buy the exact same items for from any of the local gun shops... bullets are 3-7bucks per box higher, powder is 3-5 bucks a pound higher etc.

I do get their mail flyers and the Sale price on new guns is usually the regular price at the local academy sports or even some of the local gun shops. (most of the local gun shops are sky high on gun prices.... new or used.)

I buy almost all my guns from individuals.... sometimes from "customers" walking the floor at gun shows with something they're looking to trade or sell. Mostly from guys on the local sports forums.

Gun Broker is a joke most of the time. It's mostly dealers and mostly not really a legitimate "auction" the starting price is usually what you can buy the thing for locally or even higher.... and the transfer and shipping and you're well in the hole.

BBQLS1
November 17, 2010, 08:25 AM
I think each store is run differently. What may be high at one store may be just right or even low at another. They don't always have the right person making those decisions at the stores.

Krusty783
November 17, 2010, 08:57 AM
While to my knowledge Bass Pro shops doesn't sell used guns....

The Gun Library must be working out for Cabelas because Bass Pro Shops has jumped on the band wagon; they now have a "Fine Gun Room" section on their website http://finegunroom.basspro.com/index.html#
I haven't been to my local BPS in at least 6-8 months, so I don't know if they have a Fine Gun Room at the store(s) of if this is just a interweb thing...

huntsman
November 17, 2010, 10:07 AM
I don't know a lot about the value of used/collector guns, but anytime I've ventured into a Cabela's Gun Library, the prices are crazy out of line.

If you are un-familar with pricing then how do you know they are "crazy out of line" ? just because something costs more then you'd pay doesn't mean it's not a value.

Dentite
November 17, 2010, 05:06 PM
While it wasn't in the "Gun Library" I did buy a used shotgun at Cabelas once and I actually got a good deal. I walked it from the used rack over to a guy in the library and told him I'd give them $x amount for the gun and he said deal. When we did the paperwork he knocked off another $20 without me asking. I've seen some auctions end at about $200 more than what I spent for the same gun.

That being said there are a lot of used guns there that are overpriced compared to other places I've been. Doesn't bother me one bit...it's a free market. It is a little funny when the used guns are the same price as the new ones though.

AKElroy
November 17, 2010, 06:03 PM
Cabelas can be overpriced unless you play their game, and I play it. They send very short term coupons with purchase minimums, and their visa accumulates bonus cash quickly. For customers who regularly buy & maximize the coupons, you can regularly save 20-30%.

As for the guns, I have had them special order at a sale price for a custom gun, and got a deal I could not match on any of the auction sites. They have their place, I like the culture & selection offered, and I enjoy shopping there. In short, it is worth it for me if you take advantage of the promo's. Like all retailers, some items will have ridiculous mark-up, while other items can be reasonable.

wriggly
November 17, 2010, 09:47 PM
At Cabelas I get some smokin hot ammo deals every once in a while, because they make a lot of mistakes.

As for the gun room, you have to haggle. The longer a gun sits there, the more you will be able to get em down.

Full Metal Jacket
November 17, 2010, 10:08 PM
At Cabelas I get some smokin hot ammo deals every once in a while, because they make a lot of mistakes.

yep, i've noticed they do make a lot of ammo price mistakes--in your favor :D

rogertc1
November 18, 2010, 06:20 AM
I have had great luck with gun broaker on old and new firearms. I can find guns that are not easily located and get a good price. Sure i pay about $25 for shipping and a $10.00 transfer fee to my ffl dealer. But i pay no taxes. Big savings on say a $1000 gun. Like any thing you buy do your homework.

Xfire68
November 18, 2010, 10:40 AM
I do see your point on the prices most of the time but, I have seen a few deals as well.

sernv99
November 18, 2010, 12:21 PM
it depends on the gun.....over on another forum, a fellow shooter bought a very high end, virtually unfired Beretta sporting shotgun for a lot less than what other regular shops are selling close to new/LNIB the same exact model....so if they are sitting on a high dollar item that has a very limited market appeal, they will tend to deal more so than on regular items.

Overall they tend to be high but they have a higher overhead than the local guy down the street.

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