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acgill07
November 15, 2010, 09:53 AM
I am looking to pass along the compact 10/22 that I have had since I was 13 and purchase a new squirrel gun. The available options are overwhelming and I would appreciate some suggestions. Here are some guidelines:

Less than $500
Prefer a stainless barrel and synthetic stock
Not a heavy target gun
No real action preference
Best out of the box accuracy (I dont want to spend time or money on upgrades)

I will be scoping it.

Thank for the help.

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JoeMal
November 15, 2010, 10:08 AM
Marlin Model 60. Tube gets you 14 shots, costs under $200 which leaves plenty of room for a scope and some match ammo. You can get them in stainless
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/SelfLoading/60SB.asp

TimboKhan
November 15, 2010, 10:34 AM
This is only my "others like it" pick, but ff you want nice, accurate and semi-fancy, hie thee to the gunstore and look at a CZ 452.

My "I like it" would be a nice Marlin lever action. They are fun, accurate and everything you want in a squirrel gun. You might also enjoy a Henry Golden Boy.

oneounceload
November 15, 2010, 10:36 AM
While I know you are thinking .22 rifle, IMO, the BEST squirrel gun would be a nice compact shotgun in 410 or 28.........especially with old eyes....... :D

M-Cameron
November 15, 2010, 10:39 AM
theres the Savage Mkii FSS

MSRP $280
.22lr bolt action
5.5 lb
stainless w/ black synthetic
drilled and tapped for scope
great out of box accuracy

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIFSS

Naybor
November 15, 2010, 10:41 AM
I also use the Marlin Model 60 with a 3x9 Simmons scope. A real tack driver.

BUT, make sure you have part of the tree as a backstop when shooting them fuzzytails.
The .22 Long Rifle will travel up to a mile and a half if you do miss! Ouch!! (or worse).

Also, Oneounceload is right too! A .410 shotgun is FUN to use!!! How about a .410 double barrel? Hmmmmm..........

P.S. My Model 60 is an older model with a 17 shot tube.

Cosmik de Bris
November 15, 2010, 06:26 PM
Whilst the Marlin Model 60 is a great rifle, most squirrels have small paws and have difficulty reaching the trigger.

rcmodel
November 15, 2010, 06:33 PM
looking to pass along the compact 10/22 that I have had since I was 13How about you keep it and put the action in a nice custom stock with a new match barrel?
Keep the youth stock for when you have kids yourself!

http://www.eabco.com/102207.htm

http://www.rifle-stocks.com/photo_gallery.htm

http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Replacement-Stocks-for-Ruger-10-22-and-77-MKII-s/6.htm

I can gauranttee ya there will come a day when you will really regret getting rid of your first rifle!

rc

dewalt-2
November 15, 2010, 06:47 PM
Can't beat the Marlins, 60 or 39A. I have both, a 39A with XS ghost rings and a scoped 60. I prefer the 39A because I can track a moving target better. Both are tack drivers...
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af120/Radar-1/018-1.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af120/Radar-1/016-1.jpg
Good luck with your choice.

rozziboy18
November 15, 2010, 06:56 PM
+1 on the 410 or 28,
more so the 410, great cal. good for squirrels, dove, rabbit, yotes, and the odd bump in the night!
i love my rem 1100 28 sporter but i can only get ammo once a year at wal-mart (dove season)

sarduy
November 15, 2010, 07:19 PM
http://savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIFSS

http://savagearms.com/images/firearms/finder/big/markiifss.png

bernie
November 15, 2010, 07:23 PM
I think a Marlin 925 bolt gun is hard to beat. They are amazingly accurate and I bought one for my son at Bass Pro for less than $200.

sarduy
November 15, 2010, 07:29 PM
or saiga 410 ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIQlcrrZo8g

Col. Plink
November 15, 2010, 07:44 PM
+1 on marlin 60. Get some cheap glass and go blast Rocky!

kbbailey
November 15, 2010, 07:45 PM
My fay-vo-rite small game gun is a Savage 24 .22/.410 o/u.
Our 8yr old took 3 squirrels with it a couple weeks ago.

acgill07
November 15, 2010, 07:55 PM
I guess I should clarify, I am not selling the old 10/22. It is staying in the family, just not in my closet. Thanks for all the suggestions, but unfortunately the numerous options doesnt help me narrow it down much! Lots to consider.

TimM
November 15, 2010, 08:00 PM
CZ452 Lux or American

Red Cent
November 15, 2010, 08:11 PM
Difficult to recommend the 10-22 since it needs work to shoot minute of squirrel. I would get the Marlin 60 and get a great scope with the extra money.

Guys, I remember my 410 single shot and that you need to get within 15 yards or less. If I could hunt and not worry about humans, give me a good scoped 22lr.

HOOfan_1
November 15, 2010, 08:36 PM
CZ 452 Style...although much more expensive than most other already mentioned
http://cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-452-style/

goon
November 15, 2010, 08:39 PM
Cz-452. But my experience is that a good .410 shotgun with a full choke will still do quite a number on a squirrel at 25 or more yards. Honestly, I've found them to be about as effective as bigger gauges on squirrels.

henschman
November 15, 2010, 08:43 PM
The CZ's are definitely awesome. Very accurate and quality built.

If you want a semi-auto, I'd go with the Marlin 795. They are like a hundred bucks after the factory rebate they're running right now, and you can get them with stainless barrels and synthetic stocks just like you want. For a pure out of the box shooter, a Marlin has a better trigger and is capable of better accuracy than a bone stock 10/22. They come all set up with sling studs from the factory, unlike the Model 60. I just prefer mags to a tube feed anyway.

TimboKhan
November 15, 2010, 08:49 PM
Difficult to recommend the 10-22 since it needs work to shoot minute of squirrel.

Heresy! I am not sure where this thing about 10/22 not being accurate comes from, but that has not been my experience, either with the 3 or 4 I have owned or currently own, or with the multitudes I have shot with over the years.

HOOfan_1
November 15, 2010, 09:43 PM
Heresy! I am not sure where this thing about 10/22 not being accurate comes from, but that has not been my experience, either with the 3 or 4 I have owned or currently own, or with the multitudes I have shot with over the years.

This is 10 shots through mine at 50 yards

http://i54.tinypic.com/nnpg0p.jpg

Other than the Bushnell scope on it, it is a completely stock Carbine.

sappyg
November 15, 2010, 10:27 PM
i would choose the CZ 452 American in 17 HMR with a good scope as my dedicated squirel gun. it's accurate and has a lot of reach.

i've alway felt those Savage 24s were perfect for just about anything that climbs trees though. make mine a 22 lr/ 20 gage and we're in business.

welldoya
November 15, 2010, 10:42 PM
I really like my 10/22 Sporter but my Marlin 39A is an awesome shooter. BUT, one of these days I'm going to have a Weatherby XXll. Not the new bolt action. The old semi-auto tube feed. Shot one 25 years ago and been thinking about one ever since.

JDMorris
November 15, 2010, 10:44 PM
Marlin Model 60, or Marlin 795 or a Savage MKII

HOOfan_1
November 15, 2010, 10:57 PM
i would choose the CZ 452 American in 17 HMR with a good scope as my dedicated squirel gun.

That way you wouldn't even need to buy a meat grinder...

MrWesson
November 16, 2010, 01:49 AM
Heresy! I am not sure where this thing about 10/22 not being accurate comes from, but that has not been my experience, either with the 3 or 4 I have owned or currently own, or with the multitudes I have shot with over the years.

You got 3 or 4 better ones than I did. I had 2 that would shoot okay I got rid of one and did a trigger job and bedded the stock. About 3 months later I traded a range finder($70) for a marlin 60 in okay shape.

I cleaned it up and took it to the range and shot dime sized 3 shot groups with bulk ammo @ 50yds. Neither of my 10/22's could do that even with mods.

That being said I dont really think a marlin 60 is a huge upgrade from the 10/22 although slightly better in my experience. I would recommend a CZ rifle

the tube mag is a dream to load and easy on the fingers compared to the 10/22 mags but when you get a FTF its much harder to clear the jam.

okiewita40
November 16, 2010, 02:59 AM
My vote is the marlin 60. Had both a marlin 60 and a 10/22 growing up. While you would be more tacticool with a 10/22 and modding it. In my experience the marlin 60 is just the better of the two. Not to mention you can pick them up new for less than $200 and if you hit a pawn shop for $60-80 in my neck of the woods.

uspJ
November 16, 2010, 03:17 AM
I vote for the Marlin model 60. I picked one up used for $75, I put a cheap scope on it. I can hollow out milk jug caps with it.

cleardiddion
November 16, 2010, 10:07 AM
Marlin 60 without a doubt.

I picked out mine for a 100 bucks with a 4x scope. Shoots nickel sized groups at 50yds if I feel like trying and it'll eat anything except for Federal value pack stuff. Another positive about mine is that I got an older model (1971 vintage) so it has a 17rd tube instead of 14/15.

ChristopherG
November 16, 2010, 11:13 AM
I have the rifle you want. It's called a CZ 452 Style. Nickel finished bolt gun w/synthetic stock, ready to scope. With match ammo I've shot a 5 shot group at 50 yards that's under a quarter inch center to center. With federal american eagle it'll consistently shoot around a half-inch. It's not heavy and a pleasure to shoot.

http://cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-452-style/

I did take the trigger mechanism down and messed with it a bit, but ended up without making much difference and wouldn't recommend it. Just shoot another thousand rounds and it'll smooth up.

hunt
November 16, 2010, 11:54 AM
i'll second the savage 24 in 22/410
if you don't need to worry about back ground issues
the marlin 60 is a great way to go if you don't need the scatter gun

YankeeRiverCustom
November 16, 2010, 02:03 PM
my pick would be the Winchester model 275 .22 mag with 30gr hornady V-Max...now im not sure how hard these are to come by...but ive taken 10 squirrel this year with 10 rounds...very accurate....alittle off topic but could someone share some info about the 275 with me??i just bought it 6months ago

BrocLuno
November 16, 2010, 02:10 PM
I'd be looking at the used gun racks at the stores around you. You will see something that is "interesting" in .22LR or .22WRM. Once you get one that feels right, scope it and learn it's idiosyncrasies - you'll get 'em :)

YankeeRiverCustom
November 16, 2010, 02:15 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=56043&l=5088574f80&id=100001742080599

goon
November 16, 2010, 02:28 PM
Honestly, I don't think I've ever owned a .22 rifle that really shot "bad".
Some are better than others and all three CZ-452's I've shot (one I own) were extremely accurate, but I hunted squirrels for years with my dad's old open-sighted Remington 512 and never felt like it was inadequate for the job.

essayons21
November 16, 2010, 02:33 PM
Hmm, everyone seems to be recommending .22lr.

I would suggest go with a bolt action .17hmr. More accurate, longer range, and more explosive on varmints.

The Savage 93R17 FVSS seems to fit your requirements

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/93R17FVSS

m500'92
November 16, 2010, 08:20 PM
Savage Mark II or if you get a Marlin 39 or 60 now, it'll still be a real Marlin made in Connecticut, who knows how long they'll keep the 39 once production moves.

YankeeRiverCustom
November 16, 2010, 08:35 PM
Hmm, everyone seems to be recommending .22lr.

I would suggest go with a bolt action .17hmr. More accurate, longer range, and more explosive on varmints.

The Savage 93R17 FVSS seems to fit your requirements

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/93R17FVSS
while i chose the .22WMR cause it has a little longer range than the .17hmr...it boils down to personal preference i own a model 93r...but both require head shots cause of massive fragmentation...mind you im using hornady 30gr WMR....but i love my .17...its just all personal preference!i own both but choose the .22 mag...i dont use .22lr

TimboKhan
November 16, 2010, 09:22 PM
Honestly, I don't think I've ever owned a .22 rifle that really shot "bad".

Inasmuch as I have defended the 10/22 and talked about my love for the Marlin, I have to admit that at the end of the day this is how I feel as well. My first rifle I ever bought on my own (at the age of 9 or 10, by the way) was this incredibly beat-up Winchester pump. I still have it, and I still shoot it. I personally can shoot it pretty well, though others have a problem. This is entirely because I know that rifle like the back of my hand, know all of it's little quirks, know exactly where to hold the sights (which are worn and uneven) for a good shot and can do all that relatively quickly. Given that I have now owned it for close to 30 years, I hesitate to even guess how many rounds have been put through it, but I would bet money that I have run at least 5 cases of .22 through it over the years. As recently as last year I shot a rabbit with it. My point is, there is no doubt that some rifles of any make or model are sour, but oftentimes it just takes some time and some patience and a whole lot of rounds downrange to really uncover the potential of a rifle.

As a side note, I have never, ever cleaned that rifle. A drop of lube once or twice, but that's it. Not advocating that, but there it is.

dougw47
November 16, 2010, 11:50 PM
First, to the guy that asked about the Winchester 275 pump .22 mag, it was made from '63 to '73 (also made a lever 255) according to the Blue Book.



The new Marlin's and Savage rifles are dead accurate and around 2 Hundred. If you have the bucks to go for the CZ, they are nice. If you want New...one of these three would be my choice. YMMV

cleardiddion
November 17, 2010, 12:35 AM
I would suggest go with a bolt action .17hmr. More accurate, longer range, and more explosive on varmints.

What happens if he actually wants the meat?
I'd have no problem using .17hmr on things like prairie dogs but squirrel makes good eating.

Ratshooter
November 17, 2010, 02:05 AM
The OP stated he wanted a stainless/synthetic squirrel gun. I think most agree that a 22 is the caliber of choice. The best rifle I can think of is the Marlin 981TS.

It has a tube feed and will handle the full range of 22 ammo from CBs on up. I DO NOT recommend the aquila powderless loads for a gun with this barrel length. They WILL sometimes stick in the barrel. And if they do make it out they have very little power left. I have killed close to a hundred squirrels with just CCI CB longs. And thats out to around 25 yards. Nearly all were one shot kills.

I am not sure of the price for the stainless but my blued version cost $173 OTD. So I would guess the SS is a little over $200. Of course being a marlin there is no question about how well it shoots.

peabody
November 17, 2010, 02:22 AM
marlin model 60.
a blast from the past. :)
i picked one up a few years ago' in a pawn shop, in hayti missouri.
it was so gummed up n' filthy it wouldn't even let the bolt all the way back.
gave 15 ? 20 ? dollars for it.
took it home, and took brake cleaner and either to it. flushed it out really good.
cleaned the bore, and presto !!! a great shooter !! last year i putt in a new bolt buffer n' recoil spring.
silly thing is amazingly accurate.
it now shoots anything i feed it, very reliable.if i remember right.
mine holds 18 shots .
super cheap and soooo eazy to work on.
peabody

peptoe
November 17, 2010, 04:27 AM
My vote is a .410, but I'd get the Marlin 1895 in .410 since you already have an adequate .22.



http://www.cabelas.com/fryprod-0/product--Marlin174-Model-1895-Lever-Action-410-Shotgun--706394.uts.shtml

ms6852
November 17, 2010, 04:32 PM
I have to agree with RCMODEL, save the action, get a new trigger,barrel and a new stock and you have a very accurate rifle that will shoot anything you feed it.

acgill07
November 18, 2010, 01:09 PM
Thanks for all the input. The Marlin 981ts seems to fit the bill the best. Now to see if I can find one in a local shop. I try to buy local and I dont like the idea of buying a rifle that I have not handled.

Bill B.
November 18, 2010, 08:17 PM
Marlin 39A will always be a top choice but may be out of that price range these days. I still like to remember when they were $250.00 ..........wishful thinking now.

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