Classic Pump Guns


November 16, 2010, 01:34 PM
Aside from the current day line of pump shotguns: Remington 870, Mossberg 500, Benelli Nova, Winchester Speed Pump, and Browning BPS, I would like to dwell further into the class pump shotguns...

I know of the Winchester Model 12 and 1897, Ithaca Model 37, Remington Model 17 and 31.

There are other ones out there like the Stevens 77E etc., High Standard, Smith and Wesson etc.

I was hoping to start a discussion of pump guns of the past and non mainstream types as there isn't a whole lot of information on google.

I'm interested in the craftsmanship and design details of the older guns and how they were adopted and refined into today's current guns. I'd like to hear about the steel machining process and tight tolerances etc.

Any info would be appreciated.

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November 16, 2010, 01:57 PM
Don't forget the old Marlin Model 19s.

November 16, 2010, 02:03 PM
can we include Pump rifles? :D

Red Cent
November 16, 2010, 02:13 PM

Red Cent
November 16, 2010, 02:17 PM

November 16, 2010, 03:14 PM
Stevens 520 & 620. I have a 520 in 16ga. I love it's unique take down feature.

Old Scratch
November 16, 2010, 05:45 PM
Retired police shotguns can provide some excellent examples of craftsmanship and finish. I have an old, beat-up, but wonderfully smooth High-Standard K-1200 (18-7 Riot). The action is so slick (how slick is it?) that when held muzzle-up, the weight of a shell will completely open the action by simply depressing the battery-release button. Try that with your brand-new Mossberg.

November 16, 2010, 07:11 PM
Remington M10.Manufactured from 1907-1929

Wood Man
November 17, 2010, 10:24 AM
I have a neat old pump gun. It's a Savage mdl.69-RXL 12ga., 7-shot mag., 18-1/4" barrel. Great old gun in great shape. Only has a couple of places on it and you really have to look to find them. I got it in a trade off of Armslist a while back and plan on keeping it for a long time. I call it my "Revenuer" gun, because it looks like something from back in prohibition days. They were made back in the 60's and early 70's for law enforcement and some military applications. Mine doesn't have a PD stamp on it anywhere and looks to be in almost like new condition. So it may have been a unissued one from way back when. It shoots great. Does throw a wide pattern at 20 yards, but with a 18" barrel, it's not made for long distance anyway, LOL...... I have put a OD green canvas sling on it since the pics and have found a OD green, military style, butt stock shell holder i'm going to get to put on it. This will be one to hold onto or pass down to my son.

November 17, 2010, 01:00 PM
Don't forget the old Marlin Model 19s.

Nor the newer Marlin model 120.

November 17, 2010, 07:41 PM

November 17, 2010, 08:35 PM
Sears used to market a pump gun called the "Ranger" I want to say in the 20's and 30's. It was a Browning design with a square back receiver. The top of the receiver actually had a square hole cut in the top wherer the locking lug on the bolt would rise up into as the action was closed. The machining was very well done and all of the examples that I have seen are take down models and as solidly built as any shotgun ever was. I own this gun in 12, 16 and 20 gauge and just love them. Not too pricey. I spent les than 100 bucks on the last one that I bought. All of mine are in in very good condition with 80% blueing at least. If you want a very interesting pump gun that shoots like crazy and are still dirt cheap, check these out. No one really considers them collectable "yet" except for myself. When that changes, the prices will go up.

Bill B.
November 17, 2010, 09:08 PM
I would guess the Winchester Model 25 could be added to that group. The Winchester M97 & M12 are my favorites hands down!

November 17, 2010, 11:12 PM
Second from the top in my picture is the High Standard 18-7.
One of the best ever.

November 17, 2010, 11:23 PM
Marlin 19, AKA Widowmaker! Next to a 97 and then the Model 12 which is pretty near the top of the heap IMHO.

November 18, 2010, 12:28 AM

November 18, 2010, 06:36 AM
Beautiful examples guys :)

32 Magnum
November 26, 2010, 07:06 PM
Here's a couple of late 1950's H&R marked pumps made for them by Noble. All three of these are well broken in and work excellently. The 20 ga and 410 bore a so slick that they will open when held vertical and the action lock button is pushed. Note the removable side plates on the receivers.
2nd is a Manufrance pump, set-up for the Gardner MASS PD and donated by H&R - one of five pieces.
131179 Top to bottom: 20 ga., 16 ga., .410 bore
131180 131181 131182

November 26, 2010, 09:14 PM
Took longer to get to the Noble line of shotguns than I expected. Great shotguns that many of us used when we started shotgunning. I still have my first Noble and it still works as well or better than when it was new.

November 26, 2010, 09:29 PM
Good looking Ole Shotties!

November 29, 2010, 11:41 PM
Winchester 1897. Detroit Police Department.
Manufactured 1901.

December 18, 2010, 05:26 AM
I've had a Noble 12ga since the early 70's and it has always been reliable and is a nice smooth shooter...

December 23, 2010, 04:44 PM
Don't forget the Remington Model 29 and the Winchester Model 42 (which isn't exactly a Model 12). There are some 1980s-ish Browning copies of some of the Winchesters if you don't have to have an original.

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