Endura Question


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md7
November 16, 2010, 04:20 PM
Recently I have aquired a new FRN Endura 4. I really like the knife, but do have a question.

This knife locks up pretty good, there is no blade wobble or vertical movement at all. However, I have found that if I apply pressure on the cutting edge, the blade will move back slightly (less than 1/16th of an inch) and make a slight "click" sound. Is this normal?

I'm good with it if that's the case, just wanted to hear from other Endura owners.

Thanks

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dougw47
November 16, 2010, 05:49 PM
I have had several endura's, one and only one did not fully lock-up when opened. When pushed to fully open, it clicked.

That is all I can think of about yours.

Good luck...

rcmodel
November 16, 2010, 06:04 PM
I don't own that new model Delica, but I have owned Endura's, Rescues, and Delica's since Spydeco first started selling knives.
None of them "clicked" later after the lock snapped in.

I'd suggest you oil the latch and blade pivot with light oil and keep playing with it a while.
May just be a break-in issue.

But as long as you can't force the blade to close with heavy pressure on the back of the blade, I prolly woundn't worry about it.

rc

md7
November 17, 2010, 10:45 AM
Well the good news is that I cannot get this lock to fail. That's nice.

After further inspection I have noticed that it is NOT the blade that is clicking. When I apply pressure against the cutting edge the blade moves backwards ever so slightly. As the blade moves it causes the lock release button on the handle of the knife to dip into the handle very slightly. Almost cannot see it moving. When the lockback button moves, it makes a clicking sound.

Does anyone else's do this or does their blade have any rearward motion when pressure is applied?

seed
November 17, 2010, 02:20 PM
I'm not an automatic "send it back to the manufacturer" kind of guy, but according to what I have read on bladeforum and seen on youtube, Spyderco CS is awesome. So I would definitely contact them and send it in. I have an Endura VG-10 blade with stainless handle...no blade movement or strange clicks. If I did, I would send it in.

bikerdoc
November 17, 2010, 02:37 PM
No, should not happen !, Contact Spyderco and I am sure they will make it right.

md7
November 17, 2010, 04:44 PM
Ok,

I contacted Spyderco. Very nice folks to deal with by the way. They were prompt and courteous.

Here's what I have learned. Slight vertical blade play is normal with FRN handled knives and does not in any way interfere or detract from the integrity of the knife. Excessive play is a problem. After explaining the issue, they told me that the ammount of play that is in my knife seemed to be within specs, but that the clicking sound on the release button was unusual.

I think it's probably fine, but I am going to send it on in just so they can check the clicking in the lock. If they look it over and send it back, I'll be fine with it. I just want to make sure that it's "all good".

Thanks for the replies.

Mountainman38
November 17, 2010, 04:59 PM
Well the good news is that I cannot get this lock to fail. That's nice.

After further inspection I have noticed that it is NOT the blade that is clicking. When I apply pressure against the cutting edge the blade moves backwards ever so slightly. As the blade moves it causes the lock release button on the handle of the knife to dip into the handle very slightly. Almost cannot see it moving. When the lockback button moves, it makes a clicking sound.

Does anyone else's do this or does their blade have any rearward motion when pressure is applied?

I have a Native FRN that does what you're describing. The first time I noticed it was when my wife wanted me to cut a foam pillow in half. This took a lot of pressure, and I definitely noticed the blade moving as I sawed through the pillow.

I have a full sized Manix that is my constant companion, and it does NOT exhibit this behavior, ever. This knife is a tank.

It's possible that the lighter knives are more prone to this, but I can't say based on only two samples.

md7
November 17, 2010, 06:03 PM
It's possible that the lighter knives are more prone to this, but I can't say based on only two samples.

Yeah, that is what CS at Spyderco said. That some vertical play was okay. I am cool with that if that is the way it's supposed to be. The clicking is really the only thing at this point that concerns me.

I have two other Spydercos. A Centofante 3 and Delica stainless. The stainless Delica is a vault! No movement at all. The FRN Centofante has extremely slight, borderline unnoticable vertical movement, and that is if you are really bearing down on it. But, it does not click.

I am ok with some play, but I think the Endura is going to take a trip up to Golden just to be on the safe side. I have other knives to tote in the mean time, and $5 for peace of mind is a small price. (Don't want this thing chopping my fingers off because of a defect)

On a positive note. The Endura is a pretty cool knife. Light, huge blade, melts in your pocket like it aint even there, and plenty sharp. Once it is given the all clear or replaced, I can see this one getting plenty of carry time.

Thanks all!

Coyote3855
November 17, 2010, 06:52 PM
I've own, and lost, several Spydercos, including an Endura. The older model Endura I have now does exhibit a slight amount of blade movement against bar, but there is no discernible "click." Never noticed it until you brought it up.

TimboKhan
November 17, 2010, 11:40 PM
On a positive note. The Endura is a pretty cool knife. Light, huge blade, melts in your pocket like it aint even there, and plenty sharp. Once it is given the all clear or replaced, I can see this one getting plenty of carry time.

I own other brands and types of knifes that I really like a whole bunch, but at the end of the day the Endura is my all-time #1 favorite knife, and Spyderco is my go to knife company. In part, thats because I like to support Colorado companies when I can, but really it just boils down to the fact that they make a heck of a good product at reasonable prices. I have talked to some Spyderco reps at a knife show, and found them to be nice people who seem genuinely interested in continuing to put out a good product while supporting their current customers.

seed
November 20, 2010, 05:36 PM
Like I said, I've heard all kinds of good things about Spyderco CS. One of my favorite things I saw on youtube was where one guy sent them a letter or e-mail (I forget which) asking about what they did with all the holes they cut out of the blades. Spyderco sent him a bag full of various hole cut-outs with a really cool letter basically saying that they were entertained by his inquiry and they hope he enjoys the holes they sent. I thought that was clever and really cool.

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