223 sabots in 308?


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poor man
November 25, 2010, 07:26 PM
another question if i can...

i sold my 223 and have a boat load of cheap ammo for it left over, SO can i use the 223 bullet and a sabot to load plinker rounds for my 308? i see some sabots online that say 30 to 22 cal so a 223 would be 22cal right? thanks again

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R.W.Dale
November 25, 2010, 07:33 PM
Inaccurate is an understatement

Can't hit an outhouse from the inside is more like it.

If you're just wanting to waste bullets send em to me and shoot blanks, cause I assure you your groups won't be any diffrent

kaferhaus
November 25, 2010, 07:37 PM
I've got a bunch of old 30-06 "accelerators" which is of course the saboted 22cal.

The best they do is 4" 5 shot groups at 100M and at 200M I can't hit a 24" square target frame.....

GeoffC
November 25, 2010, 07:37 PM
Someone watched CSI Miami this week...

The old Remington Accelerators were bad enough....
I've got a few left and short of.....well never mind, that eiither. They're worthless. I was going to say if the only gun you had was a 30-30 or an 06 they'd be good close range coyote bullets, but nah, the 30 cal bullet would be way better.

Useless indeed, unless you wanna be like the Sniper on CSI this week who used them to avoid having ballistics traced.

What's with this myth that if the police find a bullet, they can look at it and look in some data base and tell exactly who bought the gun that had that barrel???

I mean sure if a bullet is fired from a weapon, and later that gun is found, and fired into a trap, you can compare bullets and say they came out of the same gun. The thing is, that's the end of it.

poor man
November 25, 2010, 07:53 PM
thanks for the replies, i didnt know if it was worth t or not. sorry i dont watch tv anymore, its to depressing LOL... and since our nice goberment changed the airwaves on us i cant get the news on the antenna tower any more :(

thanks again

taliv
November 25, 2010, 11:46 PM
if you are near cookeville, stop by sometime and i'll give you a handful of them to try.
i think my results were a bit better than krochus' description, but not much.

if you're just looking to screw around and do something different, it's fun. don't expect to use them for anything serious like a match or self-defense though

red1973
November 26, 2010, 05:23 AM
I have tried enough of them to buy a cheap .223 rifle, and I finally gave up on them. You just can't get them to stabilize the bullets and then you have that plastic fouling. They just don't do what they're advertised to do. They sound great, but they just don't deliver!:banghead:

hardluk1
November 26, 2010, 08:31 AM
If plinking is what your look.n for why not shoot hardcast lead bullets at low power and have a great plinker thats very accurate.

rodregier
November 26, 2010, 08:39 AM
I handloaded some .224 sabotted projectiles for a .308 Win rifle. Poorer accuracy, and a very different "zero" than normal projectiles too.

Tirod
November 26, 2010, 09:23 AM
Something doesn't add up.

Accelerators, handloaded or otherwise, don't seem to have a good reputation for accuracy. One of the improvements in black powder is the specific use of saboted sub caliber bullets. They are claimed to be faster, flatter shooting, and more accurate. A lot of the newer inline loaders have converted, in part because they can use solid propellant attached by the sabot sprue to speed reloading. Some have reported 1MOA guns as a result.

Is the problem with the sabot? Plastic fouling is an indicator it's being pushed faster than it can engrave and rotate. It sounds like we need a better sabot to make this work.

sansone
November 26, 2010, 09:50 AM
If plinking is what your look.n for why not shoot hardcast lead bullets at low power and have a great plinker thats very accurate.
..agreed

NCsmitty
November 26, 2010, 09:54 AM
I have shot after market sabots, and the biggest problem, after selecting the right powder, is the tendency for the soft sabot and the bullet to be off center in the case.

each bullet/sabot will need to be adjusted with a V-block and dial indicator so the bullet runout is minimized. They are extremely easy to knock out of concentric alignment, so magazine fed sabots should be avoided.
Essentially, they are more trouble than the effort required to load, IMO.



NCsmitty

poor man
November 26, 2010, 12:14 PM
thanks for all the replies ...

taliv if you look UP the mountain you can almost see me LOL thanks i may buy a hand full of them from you just to play with... thanks

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