a reminder on always inspection a gun befor you buy


November 27, 2010, 05:51 PM
hey guys,
yesterday i went to the gun show and bought a ruger vaquero 45lc. i took it

home and cleaned it and i shot it today. much to my surprise the groups were

horrendous. thinking it was me:confused: i ran 150 rounds through it,trying to

shoot the tightest groups i could muster, from a rest of course. the groups

were a little smaller but still 5-6 inches from 12 yards:what:. well back at the

house i found out why. at the throat of the barrel there was a quarter inch

circle of pitting. deeeeeeeep pitting! im not sure how it got passed me but it

did! thankfully the guy who sold it to me refunded the money and i picked up

a rugger blackhawk 357/38/9mm for a good price. moral of the story, dont be

like me!!:banghead:inspect the gun that your going to buy new or old. never

know what your going to find.

regards to all

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November 27, 2010, 05:57 PM
I have been lucky buying guns on Gunbroker and through gun forums. I only had two bad guns shipped to me and the owners took them back. I always seem to get better deals online too. So be careful and ask lots of questions before you buy and a commitment from seller that he will take back a problem gun.

November 27, 2010, 06:27 PM
yeah this was a real screw up on my part. its just not my year. first laid my hand open in jan cleaning the last buck of the season,then the hoa lady cited us on my lawn! oh and most shamefully i became a member of the dreaded AD club. thank god no one was hurt! if this keeps up im just going to start digging a whole in my back yard. huh... that piss off the hoa lady for sure!

November 27, 2010, 06:30 PM
Since I love to look at guns, anyway, inspection just seems to come naturally.

I'm a little more reluctant about internet purchases. For instance, at gunbroker,some sellers have a spartan no return policy which seems a little fishy. I'd carefully check the seller's return policy before buying on the net,also.

November 27, 2010, 06:59 PM
Sounds awfully suspicious. It takes a lot of neglect for pitting to occur. Are you sure it was not just leading???

November 27, 2010, 07:55 PM
You said that you bought it at a gun show. Did the seller let you take it apart to inspect it, or did you even ask to? I don't mean that wrong, I rarely take the cylinder out of a single action to inspect it that closely. I check lockup, the muzzle, the feel of the trigger, etc, but not much more.
I know sellers can be reluctant to let a guy do that thorough of an inspection. After all, they don't know you, you might get it apart, then not know how to put it back together. And, with a reputable gun like a Ruger Vaquero, you usually assume you don't need to.
Be grateful that the seller was a stand up guy and let you bring it back. He sounds like a guy I would want to do business with.
I hope the Blackhawk works out well for you. Thanks for the reminder about inspections.

November 27, 2010, 08:22 PM
100%, ive seen leading and this wasent it. it was consuming the rifling on the left side

and the rifling was gone. it was visably resessed! and no i dident take the cylinder out

when i looked it over. the shows here in knoxville make you zip tie the gun "safe" and the

hammer was half cocked imoblizing the feed gate. i did the same thing that potmetal

state good once over and function test. he dident seem to skidish about that. and i agree

the ruger vaquero is know for reliabilty but bad up keep is a whole other story. i passed buy

his booth three times over 4 hours and the ruger finaly hit the table again with a "damaged"

sticker on it. ill buy from him again just because he made good with me and is try to resale it

the right way stating the deffects.

November 27, 2010, 08:31 PM
oh yeah, forgot to mention. the backhawk, freaking nail driver! the 9mm cylinder not that accurate but good enough to shoot steal. i think im in love with this gun, and it will make its way to my never sell stash! thats saying somthing for me i only have 5 of them so far!

November 27, 2010, 08:53 PM
Glad to hear the seller did you right. I've personally been looking for one of those blackhawk .357/9MM combo's.

If you handload for the Blackhawk, do yourself a favor and slug the bore. Most .357's barrels are sized at .357, most 9MM's are at .355/.356. Just roll your own 9MM with .358 sized lead projectiles or .357 for jacketed or even .356 jacketed bullets for a .38 super. Again slug the barrel and find out what you got.

November 27, 2010, 09:10 PM
never thought of that! im going to do that tonight. question whats the best method to slug a barrel with out making a huge mess or burning my house down?

November 27, 2010, 10:08 PM
Glad he did right by you and very good reminder check every possible purchase out carefully when possible.

As for your 9mm/.357 convertible, no need to burn the place down or melt anything slugging it! I've never slugged a barrel, but it involves an (slightly) oversized bullet and a rod to drive it. But seeing as how your revolver is truly a .357, the bore will be around .357", so reloading 9mm with a slightly larger bullet should be a non-issue.

November 28, 2010, 12:40 PM
Any photos of the new revolver ???

November 28, 2010, 03:25 PM
Or you can do like me, have a son-in-law who works at a gun shop.:)
I purchased a Kimber Ultra Raptor II, before said son-in-law worked at this gun shop, and was not happy to find that some of the coating applied to the weapon was on the feed ramp, in other words, the feed ramp was not polished. Needless to say, I was a bit dismayed that I neglected to make note of that when examining my then-future purchase. I hand polished the feed ramp myself and it looks much better.

November 28, 2010, 03:44 PM
iknow what you mean, i bought a kimber eclipse 2 with my.....secret money:rolleyes:. i was a little disapointed to find the same feed ramp issue with my gun.

as far as the pics go. im in pigeon forge right now and my old reliable camera, the droid cell phone, craped out and no longer focuses:fire:. ill snap a few tonight with the wifes digital camera. ive ben meaning to start a "show your arsenal" thread for a long time:D.

November 28, 2010, 10:18 PM
Rozziboy, do you happen to fish? Reason I ask is the lead sinkers found in most tackle boxes are very soft and easy to run thru the bore. Just remove the cylinder of your revolver and take one of the weights that are slightly larger than you bore and gently tap it thru the barrel of the revolver. Use a wooden rod to drive the weight down the bore.

After you have driven the slug from crown to cylinder window it'll have a perfect mirror of your barrels lands and groves. Grab a micrometer and take reading. Remember to cushion the grip frame of the revolver where it will be hitting on the bench.

November 28, 2010, 10:47 PM

know what your going to find.

I once found a clothespin broken into 3 pieces in the magazine of a pump shotgun.
Seems like a long ago owner didn't have a proper magazine plug.

November 29, 2010, 12:26 AM
hmmm i have many-o-memory of carving a mag plug afield.

yes i do fish! i know what your saying for me to do and what sing your wanting me to use. dont you find it funny though that the sinker

used to slug the barrel is called a "bullet weight". im thinking a 1/4 oz lol. no seriously a 1/4 oz seems to almost fit!

November 29, 2010, 09:21 AM
The lead sinker for slugging a barrel is a good idea. I will have to try to remember that one although I seldom use sinkers that large. Still, good idea.

Rozziboy, hope you enjoy the Blackhawk. Was it the dealer from Cleveland TN that sold you the gun? He's a good guy and sells a lot of Ruger firearms.

BP Hunter
November 29, 2010, 12:28 PM

If there are no pictures for you to share, then it never really happened.:D:p

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