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December 22, 2003, 09:26 AM
Is that a fanny pack?
December 22, 2003, 10:14 AM
No its more like a purse. It hangs just behind you right hip at about 4'oclock. I would almost get one if that wasn't where I carried my gun. I wish they had a left side option.
December 22, 2003, 10:15 AM
I think you mean 'European Carryall'.
December 22, 2003, 10:32 AM
So does it go around your waist and hang off yopur hip or off your shoulder dow to the hip?
I assume it goes around your waist. Then its more of a fanny pack only much cooler.
December 22, 2003, 10:45 AM
Causes laughter induced hypoxia in your opponents...
December 22, 2003, 11:21 AM
I think you mean European Carryall.
Nooooo.............I think he really means Man Purse.:evil: :neener:
December 22, 2003, 11:22 AM
Man Ear Rings and High Heels.
I would add man dress. But I saw Bravehart and those were tuff guys in dresses!:evil:
December 22, 2003, 11:23 AM
European Carryall = Man purse. :barf:
I think I'd rather carry a real purse than something that might be considered "European". Someone might think I'm French. :fire:
Purses get stolen, are made for women, fanny packs are little better.
Get a quality leather holster, a billfold or even better, a money clip. ANd leave the European carryall/Man purse to the Firearm Loving French.
December 22, 2003, 11:46 AM
The purses web site states that it can be worn LH or RH and the strap is for the shoulder. They also have a waist pack.
December 22, 2003, 12:46 PM
"...Fallowed(sic) by...Man Ear Rings and High Heels..." Nope, it'd be a 'Tactical man purse, Tactical earrings and Tactical high heels'.
December 22, 2003, 04:31 PM
Well they do have alot of cool pouches and stuff on their site and it is available in camo:
I know the site says it can be carried on either the left or the right (cross shoulder ex. on right hip over left shoulder). But looking at the strap configeration it is obvious the ergonomics would be wrong. Also that would put the cell phone pocket behind you. They added that left or right thing on their website as a ps. I am sure they got allot of people who carry concealed with the same thoughts I had asking. I might try their waist pack pictured above. I often have to carry lots of junk for my job and that might be handy.
December 22, 2003, 04:55 PM
If "metrosexuality" is your thing, then go for it. :barf:
December 22, 2003, 05:06 PM
So, most responses seem to be either
"Oh, it's sorta European. We don't like European's this week. Well, we like German guns. And Czech guns. But we hate everything else. Except maybe the Swedish Bikini Team"
"If I wear that someone might think I'm not masculine! And of course all I care about is what other people think of my masculinity."
Looks like a useful variation on the fanny pack / camera bag concept. I don't see myself buying or wearing one, but that's because my waist is wide enough already without hanging more stuff off of it. :neener:
December 22, 2003, 05:17 PM
Well like allot of people I find myself carrying more and more junk. For the most part I make do with my pockets. Infact the extra leg pocket on my carhart pants for my surefire is a big help. I really hate having stuff in my pockets to begin with. I don't imagine carrying this in my personal life I will continue to make do with a bunch of stuff on my pockets that I have to dig for. I am on the other hand looking for something like this that I will use for work. In addition to all the other junk like flashlight, knife or letherman, wallet, keys, gun, spare mags, pen etc when I work (park ranger) I carry car tags, receipts, latex gloves, radio, pda, cpr mask, bankroll, etc. So while I may not choose this pack as it would interfere with my draw I may get one of there other belt style pack or even the second one posted above.
I didn't imagine practical use for allot of people I was more making a joke of a tactical man purse.
December 23, 2003, 12:04 AM
I have the Thermite, which Sunspot posted a pic of. Overall it is very well made, the Thermite is either a shoulder bag or a leg pouch. The only complaints I have is that the "belt" does not go all the way around, it is connected to the pouch at both ends. Its box(?) stitched, but I've had stuff fail when attached like that, I would prefer an adjustable belt (this one only goes a bit larger than a 40 inch waist) that the pouch is sewn onto. The back of the pouch is mesh, and the leg strap is sewn to this mesh, with nylon backing. I fear the mesh will tear though and let the pouch flip-flop around, but only time will tell. Other than that the nylon is strong, the stiching is good, the velcro is very good and its usefull. Hope that helps.
December 23, 2003, 12:29 AM
Kinda reminds me of some baggy, polka-dotted button-down shirts I used to wear about 5 years ago.
My girlfriend said, "Only a very gay or very straight man would wear that." :scrutiny:
December 23, 2003, 01:21 AM
The last one looks like a fancy pistol belt and GI buttpack hooked on the side.
December 23, 2003, 08:26 AM
I have one sitting under my Christmas tree. My motivation for carrying one is probably different from most. I need my to carry medical supplies for my diabetes. It's big enough for me carry my syringes, glucometer, insulin (a freezy packs to keep it cool) and some food. Carrying a firearm is not an option for me since I live in NJ. A friend of mine has one and carries his EMT supplies in it. I doubt I will carry it everyday but it will be helpful for day trips, short hikes, etc. I also have one of Maxpedition's M-2 waistpacks for my daily carry of my glucometer and some snacks. I have not even unwrapped it yet and my wife is already refering to it as my man purse. The quality of the M-2 is top notch.
December 23, 2003, 08:57 AM
OK, so besides a gun and spare ammo, let me see all the stuff I usually carry around:
- Wallet, keys, pepper spray, LED light
- Cell phone, extra battery, Bluetooth headset
- Sunglasses, clipons for prescription glasses
- Surefire light
- Leatherman Wave
- Small sebenza
- Lens cleaning cloth
- Bic lighter
- Lip balm, breath strips
- Prescription drugs
If I am going for a walk in the woods add a GPS and Sat phone. Given all this crap, a man purse or - jokingly - the Seinfeld "European Carryall" is a great choice for me. Carrying all that stuff on my person is distracting and uncomfortable and where any one item may be also depends on what clothing I am wearing that day. Is my headset in a cargo pants pocket - wait I'm wearing jeans so maybe its in my jacket pocket. Nuts, left that in the car.
I usually use a Galco fanny pack, the construction quality is meant for the weight of a gun so it carries all this stuff with ease. Being anal about "my stuff" everthing has a place and I can be assured I have what I think I have. However, I usually don't wear it as a fanny pack. I toss it over the shoulder as a mini-bag. Never had a "fag bag" comment or draw the eyes of a cop.
A very practical way to accmodate the "accoutrements of life".
December 23, 2003, 09:39 AM
I have one. Otherwise known as a "shell pouch" or "shotgunning pouch." The vests were too expensive, and now I suffer by having to wear a purse... :p
If I wear that someone might think I'm not masculine! And of course all I care about is what other people think of my masculinity.
Person in Sailor Moon outfit: "I can dress up like this because I'm secure in my masculinity."
Person not in Sailor Moon outfit: "Even so, you're still wearing a bra."
My point is, security in your masculinity only goes so far. I think many of us draw the line at wearing a purse...
December 23, 2003, 10:14 AM
Despite my former snide comments, the Proteus Versapack is probably the first fanny-pack I'd consider wearing.
Even then, not every day, but for hiking, flea markets, outings, that sort of thing it looks pretty usable. Also as a quick grab pouch of the most important essentials strapped to one of thier larger packs looks pretty nice.
December 23, 2003, 10:37 AM
I picked up a Proteus Versapack at a gunshow recently. My original intent was to use it as a mini-range bag, but since then it has transformed into a mini-BOB and sometimes hunting bag. It is a very sturdy, well made bag and I have found it very useful for a number of purposes.
December 24, 2003, 10:52 AM
I'll stick to the fanny pack thank you very much! :neener:
December 24, 2003, 07:38 PM
Depends how old you are and what you look like. I wore my Wilderness one around because of holster shortage and carrygun breakage :banghead:
Other hip guys my age I see carrying the Oakley ones (you know the ones with the shotshell loops...tactical) and I don't get a second look. If you're a clean cut buff white guy who wears a Hawaiian shirt and Oakley cap you could get taken as a cop....
December 24, 2003, 10:44 PM
My favorites are the buff white guys in the white shorts, tight polo shirts, and wearing a batman utility belt and oakleys while riding a white mountain bike along the beach, and they somehow are trying to pretend they are just your average joe :rolleyes:
To me, that bag says "I'm hiding something I don't want you to know about" all over it..
December 24, 2003, 11:02 PM
My list of daily "luggage" isn't that long:
BIG wallet (FBI size ID)
Cold Steel Recon I (fairly big folder)
money (separate from wallet)
I easily fit all of this stuff into pockets (except gun and mag) and I don't even use my butt pockets - just front pockets and cargo. When I go on a hike or anything like that, I take my SA Radio Operator's vest that I bought from someone on FALFiles or TFL, can't remember. I have zero use for one of these.
Still, as far as man purses go, this one is the least girly :scrutiny: :uhoh:
December 25, 2003, 12:50 AM
Has any one contacted Maxpedition to see if they will make a left handed run of their 'Manpurse' ??? I might be interested in one if it was. It might just make me succumb to being 'metrosexual' and fall under the control of the crab people (if you don't watch South Park you won't get the last statement.)
For all the junk I have to grab with me on a callout it would be perfect. I think I am going to arder one of those Proteus Versapacks in the next week though it looks like it will fit the bill until they decide to make a lefty manpurse for us right hand gun toters.
How bout this...oakley is annoyingly trendy in my area and you'll blend right in unless you use the shotshell loops for real :D
December 25, 2003, 02:47 AM
It look like I could fit my Serbu Shorty in that thing along with a sandwich. I may need the loops.
Really I don't care so much for the looks on that one and I try to avoid black unless it is my tac gear as in civies black tends to scream cop a little more than OD green or some other color. I try to be tactically invisible off duty. I want them to think I am just a sheeple. Unless they take some illegal action against me or some one else then they have to meet Mr. Kobra and discover things aren't always as they seem.
February 6, 2004, 11:37 PM
Good Evening All-
No4Mk1, I just sent you a PM regarding your satisfaction with the Maxpedition Proteus...
~ Blue Jays ~
February 8, 2004, 04:16 AM
I wouldn't be caught dead wearing an over the shoulder man-purse. But then, I don't have a pierced ear either.
If I have too much crap to go in my pockets, I have several daypacks. If I lived in a CCW state, I'd get several good quality carry vests, and wear them regularly. Let the LEOs and bad guys wonder what's in all those pockets, screw em.
February 8, 2004, 01:21 PM
Good Afternoon All-
Posted by Travis McGee: "...If I have too much crap to go in my pockets, I have several daypacks..."
Matt, that's exactly the problem with which we're wrestling in well-prepared, modern life. If one carries the things upon which he or she may need to rely on any given day (firearm, extra magazines or speedloaders, folding knife, food & water, flashlight, cellular phone, wallet, etc. ) it is very easy to overwhelm the capacity of our pockets.
The nice thing about some sort of bag is that these necessary items are also "consolidated" into an easy-to-manage and easy-to-secure little bundle. If things are in your jacket pocket, it makes it difficult to doff that garment with confidence. You mentioned that you have some daypacks that you've been using...
Men and women have been trying to find a bag that securely holds and organizes these necessities while simulteneously being able to "blend" into a variety of casual and not-so-casual social and/or business situations. The cross-shoulder design doesn't much appeal to me. The "tactical man purse" has been one approach, but I think many THR posters are interested in a variety of options.
This has been a very interesting thread.
~ Blue Jays ~
p.s. Loved the book Enemies Foreign and Domestic...and I'm looking forward to the next one
February 8, 2004, 01:57 PM
The need to carry more than your pockets' capacity and the desire to have it all in one neat package that you need not doff....sounds like a job for the VOMP (Vest Of Many Pockets) (http://www.tilley.com/thumbnail.asp?catId=13&gender=m&extractBy=CategoryId&id=9). Pricey, yes, but something you can carry everything in, and leave on at all times....
Navigation: click on the language, click on Men's Tilley's, click on Jackets and Vests.
Mr Jody Hudson
February 8, 2004, 02:02 PM
I've been carrying a man-purse for over 30 years, daily. I must have 50 that I've collected and used over the years.
So far, I've not had any guys come on to me and not had any women think I was in error as to the intent of my smile or wink.
I also use my pockets but the over the shoulder bag, and almost all of mine are black, seems to be without importance to others... I am far more sensitive to the size of my belly than the size of my purse, as I'm packing a few extra pounds. I am an American after all.
Of course if someone asks me what all is in my bag, I just say it's my purse... gotta couple of hours and I'll show you... no one has ever had the courage to ask for a full disclosure until they know me very well... and then they are constantly asking for something in it and eventually have one themselves.:)
If a person is composed about themselves they should be able to afford the convienience of a shoulder bag, I hope.:rolleyes:
February 8, 2004, 02:12 PM
One of the guys on the lightfighter forum uses a maxpedition to carry his E&E kit. he keeps it attached to the outside of his ruck and grabs it when he needs to drop it.
February 8, 2004, 02:58 PM
I'm almost never without my man-purse. A Timbuk2 El Ocho in red/black, to be precise. I'm thinking about a smaller one, and retiring the Bolo to range-bag duty.
Mine holds my pad of paper, toolkit, PDA, cellphone, and foldable raincoat. It's great for holding all the second-line gear that you don't need to get to in half a second.
February 8, 2004, 03:02 PM
I wear something like what ajacobs posted when I'm out bicycling. It easily holds 16 oz water bottle (I like the short, stubby Calistoga bottle), wallets, keys, cell phone and there's room for a small pistol or revolver. I prefer it over fanny packs b/c fanny packs are easier to steal from a person.
BTW, as much as I like them, I'm moving away from knapsacks because of bicycling. It retains too much heat on your back and cause you to sweat too much. I use a bike messenger bag when I have to carry more stuph.
February 8, 2004, 04:28 PM
Chris and I think alike, I have a Timbuck2 bag in Purple/Black/Gray with white reflective tags,. Muted, but still easy to hide, and not draw attention
I can carry my everywhere BOB, has a small med kit, Med's, bottle of water, SC1 carrier for Surefire stuff, Stop watch, and other assorted bits of stuff.
I can see the appeal, but if I'm going to carry a pack, I'm going to carry a *pack*. Jansport backpack, Spec Ops Brand T.H.E. Pack, or whatever. Or one of those bicycle courier bags or over the shoulder briefcase / carryall as pictured above. If I'm carrying so much crap that I'm out of pockets, and need something else to hold it all, then I'd rather have more room than less. I can always put in a few organizers. Why carry one of these and not have the ability to hold more stuff? It can't fit books, or lots of ammo, or anything larger than a sammich & cell phone it looks like. It also practically screams gun to me.
I've checked out their other products and they look pretty good. This series is just a no go for me. YMMV
February 8, 2004, 08:01 PM
I wonder if the "Mall Ninja" carries a couple of these over-the-shoulder" bags? He could put a couple of armor plates in each one so he could take multiple hits from a .308 from the sides while shielding his partner. :D
February 8, 2004, 08:15 PM
Man purse? Cool idea! Then if accosted, I have something to hit the perp with! :neener:
February 8, 2004, 08:18 PM
<whack, whack, whack>
"You brute! You brute! You brute!"
February 8, 2004, 08:45 PM
Ok it is official, I am that old!
My old leather backpack finally died, I went Hi-Tech and use a LLBean now.
I used to have a leather saddle bag, it "walked off" and no, there was no horse around. I just liked tossing my handguns and gear in it for the range. I also used it as a briefcase. Dang them suckers are expensive now!
I bought two Jansport backpacks, one I use as a range bag, I mean it says "books" not "guns". then again I never was - I will never be the one in style per se'...classic, relic...stubborn Southern Boy. The other one is for a daypack...actually it is great for rabbits and squirrels , weight is better if on shoulders .
I travel light compared to most folks I guess. In fact I a lot of times don't carry a wallet, just stick DL and CCW licenses in a money clip, keys, knife , gun and go. I dunno, maybe I figure I run faster this way. Weight is horsepower ya know.
Blue, wood, leather and old.
February 9, 2004, 12:24 AM
Good Evening All-
The Maxpedition FatBoy Versipack almost looks too big in some of the photographs. Does EDC stuff start getting "lost" when it is bouncing around in a 2.6 liter main compartment?
Does anyone know how the belt on the Maxpedition Proteus Versipack works? I'm hoping that it is not simply stitched to the bag....which usually results in product failure. So far, this seems to be the best bag solution in terms of flexibility, appearance, and choice of compartments. Anyone on THR have a scan of the khaki version?
~ Blue Jays ~
February 9, 2004, 01:08 AM
Nah, gimme a tactical vest, daypack or even a fanny pack or belt bag.
Ain't no way Travis is gonna wear a MAN PURSE!!
February 26, 2004, 10:32 PM
I've been carrying a man-purse for about 6 years. I've had one ever since I got my first PDA. It was an Apple Newton. Those familiar with the newton will know that it was the frontrunner and one of the first PDA's ever. It was also HUGE. Some aspects of that were great though. The screen on it was bigger than my whole PDA now.
No regrets carrying a man-purse. Gotta find me a fatboy.
February 27, 2004, 03:15 PM
Since someone dredged this thread up, here's my Fatboy and most of the contents.