Tyler trigger shoe anyone? - 642 J-frame


Resto Guy
November 27, 2010, 10:49 PM
Just curious if anyone here is using a Tyler trigger shoe (#217) on a 642 J-frame. If so, why do you use it? Good or bad points to consider?
I've considered ordering one because I have a problem with my finger pinching after pulling the trigger. My natural grip puts my finger too far around the trigger. The fatter the grip style, the better the fit for me.

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November 28, 2010, 12:37 AM
I have one on my S&W M-27 with 8.375" barrel and a SA trigger pull closer to a thought than and muscle contraction.

The Tyler trigger shoe would be a very bad idea on M-642. It was designed for SA target guns. The trigger shoe is wider than the trigger guard and would pose a danger when holstering or when being carried

keyboard commando
November 28, 2010, 12:56 AM
Trigger shoes are for arms that are dedicated for target use and should then be used with care.:scrutiny:

November 28, 2010, 12:56 PM
I wouldn't for two or three reasons.

1. They stick out far enough to snag on a holster and shoot a hole in your foot.

2. The set-screws that hold them on make permanent unsightly divots in the side of the trigger if you decide after 15 minutes you don't like it.

3. They make a long DA trigger reach for some people even longer.


November 28, 2010, 01:48 PM
With respect; "an ingenious solution to a non existent problem".
In the same vein as extended slide release/stop on a 1911...

November 28, 2010, 02:38 PM
And draw your own conclusions.

I have no experience with them and am "stuck on stupid" with J Frame grips.

Crimson Trace 405s or Hogue Bantam or Monogrips. Not pretty to be sure.


November 28, 2010, 05:14 PM
If the trigger is pinching your finger, try rounding-off the back corners of the trigger slightly. It is this sharp edge that is probably grabbing your skin, holding it in place, which then causes the pinch. If you don't know your way around inside an S&W, let a 'smith do it!

If you want the face of the trigger to be farther forward, that can be accomplished by welding-up the face of the trigger. Mas Ayoob had this done to a Kahr trigger, but I read the article long ago, and don't recall the 'smith who performed the work. Of course, adding mass to the front of the trigger would mean less room inside the trigger guard for your finger. I don't believe a Fitz Special-style removal of the front of the trigger guard is currently considered the safe thing to do, but a talented 'smith could certainly enlarge a trigger guard, at least with a carbon steel weapon.

USFA has made single-action sixguns with enlarged trigger guards, compared to the SAA pattern. I mention this for reference, as a place to see an enlarged trigger guard; they don't modify other makers' guns.

Oversized grips, which enclose the backstrap, will move the web of your hand to the rear, which means less fingertip protruding past the trigger. This may eliminate pinching all by itself, but it makes your gun virtually as large as a K-frame.

Some of these thoughts come from my pondering of having an SP101's trigger face built-up, and having the trigger guard modified, the object being to give an SP101 nearly the trigger reach distance of a K-frame. Of course, welding stainless steel is more complicated than with carbon steel, and it simply makes more fiscal sense to just find myself a good snubby K-frame.

Resto Guy
November 29, 2010, 10:47 PM
Thanks to all of you for the helpful responses. It's obvious that the shoe is not the solution for me.

David E
November 30, 2010, 03:30 AM
It sounds like you're putting too much of your finger thru the triggerguard. Try touching the trigger with the first pad of the finger and see if that doesn't cure it.

Resto Guy
November 30, 2010, 02:26 PM
David, what you're saying is correct. If I back my hand out a bit it places my finger differently. For a lack of better wording, it just doesn't "feel natural" to my hand, and that may be due to an injury my hand sustained in a car wreck several years ago.

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