Aker Security Special Holster


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FCDeputy1911
November 28, 2010, 04:17 PM
Has anyone ever heard of this holster or had one? I am familiar with the brand name but not this model. I have a friend that wants to carry his 4in 64 on a belt holster and this holster is what he was leaning towards. I used to carry a model 10 in a Banchi high ride holster years ago but I switched to a smaller 642. His rig is black so my old brown bianchi was not something he was interested in. Does anyone have a review or a reccomendation for a strong side holster that would fit the bill?

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Lucky Derby
November 28, 2010, 07:30 PM
Aker generally makes a quality product, although I am not familiar with that model.
About the best holster I have found is the Simply Rugged Sourdough Pancake.
www.simplyrugged.com

Old Fuff
November 28, 2010, 08:10 PM
It is easy to dye a brown holster black, but not the other way around. :evil:

Anyway, is this for personal or law enforcement use? If the latter in uniform or not?

FCDeputy1911
November 28, 2010, 08:41 PM
He is LE but it would be for off duty and personal use. He likes the look of the aker but I'm not sure how it would ride on a belt.

Old Fuff
November 28, 2010, 09:45 PM
Why not try the Bianchi to see how it works, and then worry aout the color if it does. If it doesn't the color is a moot point.

Also one of our members, Robbt, has an excellent selection of older-but-new high-quality revolver hosters of all kinds - mostly intended for law enforcement. Prices are very reasonable. you can contact him by personal message.

TomADC
November 28, 2010, 09:50 PM
Aker used to be a mile or so from the house have used their leather many times over the years good stuff for the price.
I just looked they are still in the same location, may have to swing by and pick up a catalog.

FCDeputy1911
November 29, 2010, 12:16 AM
He tried on the bianchi and liked how it was a high ride holster but it's a model 5bh and The trigger guard is exposed . I think it scared him a bit and he wanted a holster that covered the guard.

Old Fuff
November 29, 2010, 10:38 AM
The trigger guard is exposed . I think it scared him a bit and he wanted a holster that covered the guard.

"Back when..." as you probably know, just about everyone (including the FBI) carried double action revolvers in holsters that exposed the full trigger guard. This was safe enough considerig that most revolvers had double action trigger pulls that weighed around 10 to 12 pounds - and sometimes more. Also if the rig has a safety strap (conventional or thumb-break) you can't pull the trigger on the holstered revolver because the hammer won't rotate backwards.

Jeff Cooper started this "cover the trigger guard" business when cocked & locked 1911 pistols became popular, and when the Glock arrived the need became obvious. However neither of these pistols has any connection to double action revolvers.

When I was very much younger, and therefore knew everything there was to know, I had a conversation with Col. Charles Askins, who had been in far more gunfights and shootings then anyone else I had met, or would ever meet.

I pointed out to him that, carrying a revolver with the front of the trigger guard cut away (as he had done) "was dangerous." He looked me up and down and I got the impression that I might have made a grave mistake. Then he replied, using language that Art's Grandma might not approve of, "That if I ever got into a shooting and survived, I would discover that there a a lot of things that are more dangerous then a cut-away trigger guard."

This matter of exposed trigger guards on holsters designed for double action revolvers would have undoubtedly gotten the same answer from Askins as the one concerning his "Fitzgerald-style trigger guard." Your young friend has a lot to learn.

The Lone Haranguer
November 29, 2010, 08:05 PM
On an openly carried security holster I would still rather have a revolver's trigger guard covered, not because the wearer might shoot himself, but he could be shot by someone trying to snatch the gun and getting his finger into the trigger guard. If carrying concealed there is less need for security.

Old Fuff
November 29, 2010, 09:49 PM
...but he could be shot by someone trying to snatch the gun and getting his finger into the trigger guard.

Also if the rig has a safety strap (conventional or thumb-break) you can't pull the trigger on the holstered revolver because the hammer won't rotate backward

See post #8.

FCDeputy1911
November 30, 2010, 10:34 AM
He does seem to need to spend some serious time with the gun before he carries it. Which should happen as he will have to qualify with it first before Department will allow him to carry it. I guess he is used to the duty Glock he was issued as he has only shot the Model 64 at the range and recreational use. He's never actively carried it to my knowledge. I have no doubt that the old Bianchi with the exposed guard is safe , I carried my model 10 in one the first year I was in Law Enforcement and if I ever carried it again I would use the same holster or something similar. I dont know if it has sunk in to him that I have 4-5 holsters for my automatics but a select few for my revolvers. (If it ain't broke dont fix it) After helping him on the research for this I seem to have my eye on a Simply Rugged Range Master holster for myself. Not neccesarily for concealed carry but its a pretty sweet looking holster. (Thanks Guys) I can't blame him for wanting the guard covered considering the majority of holsters for Automatics cover this as well. I tried to explain to him that Revolver holsters are safe in a different way as the gun functions differently. I have had a #5 BH for my model 10 and SP101 and always thought they were safe. I guess this will take some time as I believe this is going to be a learning experience for him. I appreciate all your help on this guys.

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