Scope or reddot for Browning Buckmark or Glock 19 for my dad


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makey98
November 28, 2010, 09:13 PM
My dad is getting into shooting and he has a Browning Buckmark and a Glock 19. He liked the scope that some guy at the range had and I was thinking about getting him something for Christmas. I didn't know about how good a scope would be with a handgun. Any suggestions for how to mount a scope or good scope suggestions? Can you attach a rail or do they make a ring kit for the Buckmark? I also thought maybe a red dot would be better? Any suggestions for red dot for either the glock or the browning? What do you guys think. I am all for buying good scopes, but I was just thinking of something not too expensive. Maybe 100 bucks for scope and base? Is that possible or not worth the time?

thanks.

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docnyt
November 28, 2010, 11:05 PM
Weigand makes a scope rail. But if you want a good scope, you may want to spend more. Maybe a red dot would be better?

Marshall
November 28, 2010, 11:21 PM
A Buckmark is capable of shooting groups of a half inch at 25 yards. This group size is almost impossible to realize with a red dot that may cover the grouping, with a fuzzy, hard to realize, aiming point. It makes it difficult to achieve the potential accuracy from your gun.

Magnified scopes are not quick or necessarily easy to use. With more magnification you have and smaller field of view making it harder to find your target. Size doesn't have a lot to do with it except for how you think it looks on your gun. Red dots are like looking through glass with a bright spot on it. Easy. For plinking at the range when group size is not important, or hunting small critters, shooting cans, popping turtles and frogs, a red dot is hard to beat.

What's his use? Which Buckmark is it exactly?

rondog
November 28, 2010, 11:32 PM
I put one of these on my Buck Mark. Very easy to install, and then you can mount anything you want. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=790216

These are nice too http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=511707

NWCP
November 29, 2010, 04:33 AM
My Buckmark Contour Lite came with a built in rail. I've mounted a
Weaver Classic pistol scope on it and have had a blast out to 100 yards.

Tilos
November 29, 2010, 08:22 AM
$30 tru-glo red dot

makey98
November 30, 2010, 08:49 PM
It is a Buckmark Standard urx.

If a quality scope is out of my price range, then I could go with a wieger rail or a picatanny rail and a red-dot? What would you guys do? Any suggestions? Any other improvements I could get him for his Buckmark or Glock 19? Thanks!

GlockFan
November 30, 2010, 09:00 PM
I am in the same situation. I saw Nutnfancys review of the Bushnell TRS-25 amd went that route. This unit comes with a built in mount. I picked up one last night from Cabelas for $80.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Optics/Red-Dots-Lasers%7C/pc/104792580/c/104752080/sc/104526180/Bushnell174-Trophy-TRS-25-Red-Dot-Sight/748791.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-optics-red-dots-lasers%2Fbushnell%2F_%2FN-1100252%2B4294966721%2FNe-4294966721%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104526180%3FWTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU

For the base i think I am going to go with this one from Midway. $25 after 03FFL discount.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=292153

PO2Hammer
December 1, 2010, 06:01 PM
The boys over at Rimfire Central love the Ultra Dot from Midway. (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=158466)
Unless he is a master marksman, a 4 MOA dot is plenty fine for target work, it will cover about 1" at 25 yards and can be dimmed down where you can see through it for fine work.
The Glock really should not get a scope/red dot. it may slow him down at a critical time.

chicharrones
December 2, 2010, 01:24 PM
I think red dots are great fun for plinking and target shooting for anyone that doesn't want magnification. Plus, for old eyes it can be easier to use than iron sights.

I have a cheap-o Simmons multi-reticle tube type red dot for a Beretta Neos. It is as accurate as I can pull the trigger at any range I've tried (up to 25 yards). A downside to the tube type red dot is that it blocks more of your forward view than the non-tube type red dot. However, a tube type red dot with tinted lenses and a sun shield extender is easier to see the dot when the sun is bright.

Since I usually shoot my Beretta more at indoor ranges, I'd rather have a non-tube type on it now. In fact, I've removed the Simmons red dot and installed it on a .22 rifle. I'm much happier with the tube red dot on the rifle and the rifle shoots just as accurate with the dot as without, but my eyes last longer now. :cool:

Marshall
December 3, 2010, 01:17 AM
Agreeing with PO2Hammer. +1

reuben mishler
December 3, 2010, 01:59 AM
I think your dad would enjoy a red dot more. I think the benefits of a red dot on his Buckmark and Glock would be more enjoyment from the ability to acquire targets at a quicker pace with the red dot then a scope.

I've used red dots on rim fire handguns and they are very rewarding. IMO, the scope on either won't be worth the money since your Dad most likely won't be going out past 50 yards with either.

Red Dolt selection is entirely up to you. You don't need to spend an arm or a leg, but at the same time I purchase a red dot for any less then 75$. I might start off with a Burris or a Simmons.

David E
December 3, 2010, 02:01 AM
What would you guys do?

Any suggestions should be based on what type of shooting your father intends to do! Bullseye? Self defense? Purely recreational? Long range plinking? Hunting?

Marshall asked that in Post #3 and it hasn't been answered yet.

Damon555
December 3, 2010, 02:06 AM
Just for fun

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/edlafond/Weapons/DSC_0663.jpg

Put a red dot on that buckmark and enjoy

markallen
December 3, 2010, 09:07 PM
You know, if you find the price of a red dot too high, you can always find a laser Cat Toy at Walgreens, and attach it . :D:D:D
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc303/markallenfrancis/buckmark001.jpg

makey98
December 4, 2010, 02:18 PM
Thanks. I am leaning towards the 80 buck red dot from cabelas mentioned above. I think he would like it, buy I am not sure. He is always trying to shoot his handguns out to 25 yds. I say buy a rifle, but each his own.

As far as the purpose. The Buckmark was his first gun and he used it just to learn how to shoot. Then he got the Glock to have a real defense caliber and learn how to shoot a defense gun. However, he keeps them locked up all the time. Not ready to keep a loaded gun by the bed yet I guess.

So the Buckmark is just for practice. Shooting paper.

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