Ruger SP-101 trigger pull hammer vs. no hammer


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stinger 327
December 1, 2010, 12:12 PM
Between the two Ruger snubbies is the double action trigger pull the same for both models?
Personally I prefer the model with the hammer because I get the choice of double action or single action and it's traditional for a revolver to have exposed hammer with choice of single action whereas the hammerless is for concealment. You don't get that extra feature of the light trigger of single action.

Any particuliar reason you would get one model over the other:confused: Obviously the hammerless is primary for conceal carry (but both can be carried concealed) I can't think of any other advantage the hammerless has with the hammer model.:confused:

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rcmodel
December 1, 2010, 12:33 PM
Yes, the DA pull weight should be the same, as the same mechanical action of cocking the hammer with the trigger is taking place.

Personally, I would get the SA/DA model.
I often use a snubby for longer range plinking and even small game, so SA accuracy is very importent to me.

Hammers never bothered me on pocket guns, as I have carried S&W Chief Specials all my life.

You can quickly learn to jam your thumb against the back of the hammer spur for a snag-free draw from a pocket.

rc

Rexster
December 1, 2010, 02:27 PM
Both models HAVE hammers. The XL models have a hammer with no spur, but the rest of the hammer becomes quite visible when the trigger is pulled. ("XL" being the part of the model number of the DAO SP101s, not an indicator of size.) Overall, there is no difference in trigger pull between the two versions. Individual SP101s have smoother trigger pulls than others, and this is regardless of whether there is a spur on the hammer.

The single smoothest new SP101 I have ever handled, at a dealer, was a 2.25" model with a spur, and I bought it on the spot, or at least put it on an immediate layaway. I wanted one with a spur for a couple of reasons; to do some SA accuracy experimentation, and to accommodate a horizontal shoulder rig's thumb break strap. (I already had a couple of DAO models at that point.) I had handled many spurred and spurless SP101s by this point in time.

OTOH, when I bought a 3.06" SP101, all of which have a spur, and installed a spurless hammer, its already-nice trigger pull became smoother, as the hammer, which I had bought years before, was individually better.

oldbanjo
December 1, 2010, 02:41 PM
Mine has no spur, it is DA only, I've had it in my belt about 10 years. There is an advantage to having SA/DA, it depends on how you plan to carry the Gun.

stinger 327
December 1, 2010, 03:12 PM
Yes, the DA pull weight should be the same, as the same mechanical action of cocking the hammer with the trigger is taking place.

Personally, I would get the SA/DA model.
I often use a snubby for longer range plinking and even small game, so SA accuracy is very importent to me.

Hammers never bothered me on pocket guns, as I have carried S&W Chief Specials all my life.

You can quickly learn to jam your thumb against the back of the hammer spur for a snag-free draw from a pocket.

rc
That's pretty much the same for me as I like to be able to use the gun for other things so the single action feature is great.

stinger 327
December 1, 2010, 03:13 PM
Both models HAVE hammers. The XL models have a hammer with no spur, but the rest of the hammer becomes quite visible when the trigger is pulled. ("XL" being the part of the model number of the DAO SP101s, not an indicator of size.) Overall, there is no difference in trigger pull between the two versions. Individual SP101s have smoother trigger pulls than others, and this is regardless of whether there is a spur on the hammer.

The single smoothest new SP101 I have ever handled, at a dealer, was a 2.25" model with a spur, and I bought it on the spot, or at least put it on an immediate layaway. I wanted one with a spur for a couple of reasons; to do some SA accuracy experimentation, and to accommodate a horizontal shoulder rig's thumb break strap. (I already had a couple of DAO models at that point.) I had handled many spurred and spurless SP101s by this point in time.

OTOH, when I bought a 3.06" SP101, all of which have a spur, and installed a spurless hammer, its already-nice trigger pull became smoother, as the hammer, which I had bought years before, was individually better.
You have handled many SP-101's in different configurations? Do you own a few?
If so how good is the SP-101 with the Crimson Trace Laser grips?

funkeecowboy
December 1, 2010, 03:19 PM
The SP101 with Crimson trace grips is the exact same as every other SP101 it just has a laser grip. The SP's I've handled and shot were all nice guns.

stinger 327
December 1, 2010, 03:24 PM
The SP101 with Crimson trace grips is the exact same as every other SP101 it just has a laser grip. The SP's I've handled and shot were all nice guns.
I'm just curious if it helped with the accuracy since this revolver has no sights and the laser you can make adjustments elevation and windage.
I also see that Laserlyte makes laser sights for the NAA mini revolvers as I saw it on you tube a guy shooting bullseye with the mini revolver at 3 yards.

Rexster
December 4, 2010, 03:01 PM
You have handled many SP-101's in different configurations? Do you own a few?
If so how good is the SP-101 with the Crimson Trace Laser grips?
stinger, I do indeed own SP101s with three types of hammers, and in three barrel lengths, but none with CT grips.

stinger 327
December 4, 2010, 10:44 PM
stinger, I do indeed own SP101s with three types of hammers, and in three barrel lengths, but none with CT grips.
Which barrel lengths and do you really notice the difference in accuracy and shooting all of them?

Rexster
December 5, 2010, 03:50 AM
2.25", 3.06", and 4". The longer the barrel, the more daylight I can see on each side of the front sight, within the rear notch. Plus, a longer sight radius minimizes errors in sighting, by making those errors more apparent. This enhances practical accuracy, in the 3" versus 2.25" barrels, but the difference is very minor. Perhaps, if I had owned longer-barreled SP101s back when I didn't yet need reading glasses, there would have been a more notable difference. Moreover, I prefer the balance of the 3" SP101; the muzzle-heaviness makes it easier to "feel" where the gun is pointing, before an actual sight picture is acquired.

Actually, the 4" is unfired. I see it as being a utility sixgun for when I hopefully live on rural acreage in the future. It is chambered in .32 H&R, which is not currently on my list of defensive cartridges; I work for a PD which has rules about the defensive ammo I use on AND off the clock; .38/.380 being the minimum-powered ammo.

I do wish Ruger would make a run of 4" SP101s in .357 Magnum! I would go into debt if necessary, to order two of them.

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