New to .223 Reloading (Rifle in General)


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chagasrod
December 3, 2010, 02:54 AM
About the Crimped cases;

Can i deprime the cases normally and then use the RCBS Primer pocket Swager?


What's the best way to remove those crimps???

Thanks again guys!!

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ArchAngelCD
December 3, 2010, 03:18 AM
There are a few tools on the market that will remove the military crimp from brass. RCBS has a Primer Pocket Swager Combo (https://shop.rcbs.com/WebConnect/MainServlet?storeId=webconnect&catalogId=webconnect&langId=en_US&action=ProductDisplay&screenlabel=index&productId=3161) set that will run you right around $30 but that will do both NATO rounds. (the .223 and .308) See it Here (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=447022) for under $30.

Dillon has the Super Swager 600 (http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/content/p/9/pid/25263/catid/8/Super_Swage_600) that will do a lot of cases fast.

Lyman has a low tech method for under $10 each, 2 separate hand reamers (http://www.lymanproducts.com/lyman/case-prep/primer-pocket-reamer.php) for either large or small primer pockets.

There are probably more but those are the 3 I know of for sure. Good luck...

Grumulkin
December 3, 2010, 09:43 AM
I've use the hand reamers and they work but in my opinion, the RCBS Primer Pocked Swager does a better job in an economical and low tech way.

MrOldLude
December 3, 2010, 10:48 AM
The primer-pocket swager will work.

Regarding depriming, it depends on your equipment. When I began going reloading crimped Lake City brass, my research lead me to the conclusion that a standard resize/decapping die might work. However, the an alternative and possibly better way would be to buy a Lee Universal Depriming and Decapping die (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=136543).

For $10, it bangs out military-crimped primers easily. Also, I've been using it to deprime my brass prior to cleaning, to keep spent carbon and other crap out of my dies. It's the most used die I now own, since it works with all my calibers.

ArchAngelCD
December 3, 2010, 11:38 AM
If you have really hard to remove primers in military brass Lee has another tool for that, it's their .22 Cal or .30 Cal Decapper and Base (http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi?1291390498.4719=/html/catalog/casecon.html). (Part #90103 and #90102)

chagasrod
December 3, 2010, 02:15 PM
I already have the RCBS Primer Pocket Swager but haven't used it yet;
I was just looking at some videos of the Dillon Super Swage 600 on youtube and that thing is sweet as well.

rcmodel
December 3, 2010, 02:21 PM
I have used a standard RCBS sizing die to size & deprime thousands of GI 5.56 cases over the last 40 years.

I also use the RCBS swaging set to remove crimp.
It works as well as could be expected for no more then it costs.

The only tip I can give you is to use a little spritz of sizing lube spray on the flash holes first.
It makes it SO much easier to get the punch in, and get it off!

rc

chagasrod
December 3, 2010, 06:06 PM
Thank you all!

Cemetery21
December 3, 2010, 06:16 PM
In the early days, we would bend or break a normal sizer punch pin once in a while. I still keep spares on hand, but have not broken one in years.

If I'm just doing just a few, I grab the deburring tool and cut a little. I once did several thousand by chucking the deburring tool into a drill press on a slow turn. You get the feel of how much to cut and how to avoid chatter.

For some, the RCBS tool is a little hard to set up, but when done right, it does a good job.

Good luck!

ArchAngelCD
December 3, 2010, 11:25 PM
I already have the RCBS Primer Pocket Swager but haven't used it yet;
I was just looking at some videos of the Dillon Super Swage 600 on youtube and that thing is sweet as well.
Like you and a few others I have the RCBS set and it works fine. As for the Dillon 600, sure it's sweet but the price tag of just under $100 isn't!! If you are not doing large numbers of cases it's hard to justify the price of the Dillon because once the case is done it doesn't need to be done again.

BrokenWheel
December 4, 2010, 08:00 AM
Saved so much time for me:

http://media.midwayusa.com/ProductImages/Medium/253/253550.jpg

I put the hornady bit into my rcbs trim mate and never looked back. From what I've read about the dillon - its fast if your working on one type of brass, otherwise you need to adjust for depth for different head stamped brass.

kimbernut
December 4, 2010, 08:15 AM
That Hornady in the tri-mate looks like it would work well. So far the best I have come up with is a Wilson chamfer /deburr tool chucked into my drill-press. I also use it that way for chamfering and deburring my rifle brass after trimming. works great for both procedures.

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