is Rossi a good gun?


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vanguard7
December 3, 2010, 04:22 PM
I need a carry gun and i can get a 38 special with a 3in bbl for $229.00 at academy sports, i can not afford anything over $250.00 what do some of you think? i have been out of work over 18 months and just got a full time job making $7.50 an hour so money is very very tight now.http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e238/vanguard_07/rossi.jpg

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roaddog28
December 3, 2010, 04:30 PM
They are very in expense revolvers. Try to have someone who knows revolvers go with you to help you check out the revolver. The quality of Rossi is below Smith and Wesson or Ruger. Rossi is on the same level as Taurus. Either you get a good one or one with issues.

Hope this helps,
Howard

shootingthebreeze
December 3, 2010, 05:07 PM
I have a snub nose Rossi 38/357, the stainless steel rubber grip version, since 1997. I have fired hundreds of rounds through it since plus qualified with it with .38 for my CCW. A very accurate handgun and very reliable. I always cleaned it right away after practicing with it at the range and have had it checked periodically by a gun smith.
When I qualified with it for my CCW with a target 15 feet away I had all my shots in the center bull's eye.
Though I own two semi autos the Rossi has a special place with me because it is dependable and very accurate. It looks brand new today.
Yes, there are many nice weapons out there-I like the S&W 638 5 shot .38, it is a lot smaller, but pricey at $549 at Gander Mountain, and over $600 at another local gun store.

I would like to add that I carry my Rossi quite often.

Nomad, 2nd
December 3, 2010, 06:12 PM
For $200I'd look for a used S&W model 10.

It'll hold it's value better too.

Rossi's have had their ups and downs in quality. Honestly I have no idea as their current quality, but for that price...

Zundfolge
December 3, 2010, 06:35 PM
Since September of 2008 Rossi is Taurus (http://www.taurususa.com/news-detail.cfm?newsID=27).

10-96
December 3, 2010, 07:09 PM
Damn the man who says another man hadn't ought to be able to defend himself and his family! If that's what you can get without waiting a long time and/or having to deal with shipping and transfer fees- then by all means, take along a friend and check all of them they have in stock and pick the best one. I hate to hear aobut your run of bad luck and pray things get better for ya soon! My opinion is that if you go with the Rossi- and get a good one- it'll do what you ask of it. Now if you were of the notion to expend thousands of rounds through it- well, that's a mute point. Realistically, you'll be wanting some familiarization ammo and some decent quality SD ammo and then the rest of your focus will be on food, shelter, and getting back on yer feet. That said, go for it man, and keep you and your family safe.

You can always trade up when times get better.

WadeWilson
December 3, 2010, 07:12 PM
I have had one for about 10 years and it has ran flawlessly.

chicharrones
December 3, 2010, 07:20 PM
Damn the man who says another man hadn't ought to be able to defend himself and his family! If that's what you can get without waiting a long time and/or having to deal with shipping and transfer fees- then by all means, take along a friend and check all of them they have in stock and pick the best one. I hate to hear aobut your run of bad luck and pray things get better for ya soon! My opinion is that if you go with the Rossi- and get a good one- it'll do what you ask of it. Now if you were of the notion to expend thousands of rounds through it- well, that's a mute point. Realistically, you'll be wanting some familiarization ammo and some decent quality SD ammo and then the rest of your focus will be on food, shelter, and getting back on yer feet. That said, go for it man, and keep you and your family safe.

You can always trade up when times get better.


Great post. :cool:

btg3
December 3, 2010, 07:42 PM
Either you get a good one or one with issues.

^^^ Much truth in that nutshell ^^^


Here's a post from someone who didn't like his:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=507800&highlight=academy

orionengnr
December 3, 2010, 07:43 PM
I am sure the newer Rossis are better than the old ones.

The one I had about ~25 years ago (M68 .38 Spl) was pure junk, and has been residing at the bottom of a lake since 1985 or so. You won't find another in my safe or on my hip.

More recently I had a Taurus M441 (3" blued 44 Spl), and it worked just fine. The difference in quality between the Taurus and an equivalent S&W was evident.

Lots of good used stainless S&W M-64s out there for $200-250.
Fize you, I'd be looking at one of them. There are just way too many negative experiences with Taurus out there. The link in the above thread is a good example. A quick search will turn up enough to keep you busy all weekend...and I imagine you have better things to do.

Cearbhall
December 3, 2010, 08:35 PM
To everyone who says he can get a Smith for $200 in his area, tell him where. I've been to a lot of gun shops lately and I haven't seen any for less than $400, and none suitable for carry. Sure, if he shopped around for the next six months he might find the model he needs, (after spending a lot of money on gas) but he needs some protection now.

Have a knowledgeable person check out the Rossi if you're unsure, and remember, they do have a warranty.

btg3
December 3, 2010, 09:18 PM
Here's one that sold, I assume, in the OP's neck of the woods this past summer... (found it with no gas!)
http://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/showthread.php?4179-S-amp-W-model-10-5-.38-special

Gun shop prices will be higher... and should have more of a selection. Anything in the Ruger 6 series is another good option and may open up some more possibilities if ya gotta have it now.

New or used, and regardless of make, the advice to have it checked out by a knowledgeable person is on target.


BTW Vanguard7, how long have you had your carry permit?

Tpar
December 3, 2010, 09:24 PM
I'm new and don't know where to start.

My father in law has an old 44 caliber revolver and I'm trying to find out it's worth and exactly what he has.

It's got a 6 inch barrell. The letter TAC are in a circle with Trade on top and Mark on the bottom. Under the handkle it has A18730 Some other writing is TAC Revolver and For specialized U.S Service CTG.

It has what he calls a left hand wheel

Can anybody help, or perhaps point me in the right direction?

Thank you

GP100man
December 3, 2010, 09:33 PM
I looked at 1 just like that at my local pawn shop & could`nt figure how in the world they could sell em that cheap $259.00 , felt solid & lock up was`nt vault tite but ok , timmin was dead nuts !! All looked straight & square !!

The 1 I looked at had adjustable sites though .

Perfect truck gun/night stand gun !

mustang_steve
December 3, 2010, 09:38 PM
Yeah, cheap S&Ws are incredibly uncommon...I knew of one 38spl about a year ago that sold for 280, but only because some fool that owned it in the past tried to use steel wool to clean it and scratched the blue off of that one side.

That was the best Deal I saw in a long while on a smith.

Nomad, 2nd
December 3, 2010, 09:47 PM
To everyone who says he can get a Smith for $200 in his area, tell him where. I've been to a lot of gun shops lately and I haven't seen any for less than $400, and none suitable for carry. Sure, if he shopped around for the next six months he might find the model he needs, (after spending a lot of money on gas) but he needs some protection now.

Have a knowledgeable person check out the Rossi if you're unsure, and remember, they do have a warranty.


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=6900696#post6900696

Post 20



Doesn't take that much 'Shopping around' ;)

Confederate
December 3, 2010, 09:51 PM
For that price, you can't go wrong. Someone said get a S&W 10...used. I don't know where you could get a used 10 that cheap and still be able to see any blue.

I have a number of Rossis, and unlike the Taurus revolvers, they're accurate and are great.


http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/RossiPistols_2C.jpg

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Nomad, 2nd
December 3, 2010, 09:56 PM
Yeah, cheap S&Ws are incredibly uncommon...I knew of one 38spl about a year ago that sold for 280, but only because some fool that owned it in the past tried to use steel wool to clean it and scratched the blue off of that one side.

That was the best Deal I saw in a long while on a smith.

A year ago (And more reciently) J&G was selling model 10's for $155 shipped.
(Mighta been $10 more reciently)

I bought 'several' (all 4 inch, both HB and skinny)

It's pretty common (Still) for a 'rent a cop' agency to sell off... that's what these were. NYPD guns, by way of a rentacop company.

BCCL
December 3, 2010, 10:34 PM
Over the last 20 years, I've owned about 10 Rossi revolvers in .22, .38sp, .357 and .44sp, and I've had exactly one that ever gave me a problem, and that was a .22 that the screw that holds the cylinder crane in the frame would work loose and fell out twice until I put a tiny trace of nail glue on the threads.

shockwave
December 3, 2010, 10:49 PM
I've got a 971 about 10 years old that's a virtual knock-off of the 686. I find the Smith to be of slightly better quality, but I use the 971 4" for IPSC. Reliable and accurate. Tack driver.

Maybe I just got a good one, I don't know, but it's a great firearm and I've won rounds with it.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r136/southerneditor/serossi1.jpg

Zundfolge
December 3, 2010, 11:42 PM
A year ago (And more reciently) J&G was selling model 10's for $155 shipped.
(Mighta been $10 more reciently)
Yeah those model 10s were a great deal ... best deal they have right now are model 64s for $249 (http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/smith-wesson/revolver/p/smith-wesson-model-64-38spl-4in-stainless%2C-round-butt-w-bobbed-hammer-very-good-plus-condition/cPath/16_211_431/products_id/3104) (so with shipping and transfer you're still looking at under 300...however if your budget is 250 you either need to wait a while or go for the Rossi).

Read this thread here before you go look at any revolver...
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=1430

Also I found a Charter Off Duty for 220 about an hour and a half from you on Armslist (http://www.armslist.com/posts/67495/atlanta-georgia-handguns-for-sale-38-special-off-duty-hand-gun-by-charter-arms) (which is kinda like Craigslist for guns). Of course that begs the question; is Charter a good gun?

Tomcat47
December 4, 2010, 12:06 AM
vangard7 .......

I must be in an elite group like shockwave?
I see all the negative comments regarding the Rossi and Taurus and I have had a few Rossi 22, .38, & .357 ( Have NOT had a bad one in the ones I had 8 for 8? )
My two favorites were .357 Revolver and I had a Puma Lever action rifle.


Taurus Revolvers & Autos ( Have had and still have numerous calibers in this Brand )
From some of the first in the late 80's to present....Love the 9mms, Love the PT58 .380, Love the Tracker Series Revolvers, have never been disatisfied with any Taurus Purchase. The quality, feel, and finish has changed & improved over the years, BUT I always felt that I got my moneys worth and done its intended duty.

I like you on most of the purchase had a budget for what I was after....The Rossi fit the bill and its what i took home.

So to answer your question ??? Are Rossi's Good guns? My opinion to your question is Yes! they are good guns, read the owners manual, fill out the warranty card and dont shoot +p ammo in it if the manual says not to and I believe you will be happy.

I will close by saying this...when I say that they are GOOD guns, I say it with personal conviction that I believe they are good guns for the price! They may not be GREAT guns, but they are not priced or marketed as such! I never had to use there warranty nor have I needed to use a Taurus warranty.

I have had complications with the following GREAT guns:(and they were not cheap)
Browning 9mm
Beretta Auto
Kimber Auto (especially not cheap)

***NOTE*** BY NO MEANS AM I SAYING THE ABOVE ITEMS WERE BAD FIREARMS!
Just when i got them i did not even think about needing a warranty. The mfgs were great and repaired all of the above satisfactory!

And I got a used S&W for GREAT price from gun store once,....later realized that the backstrap on it was actually bent causing it to shave lead! (gunsmith said someone had shot extreme HOT loads in it. It was unnoticable to the eye, but the lead spray was not fun! Store gave me back my money and gave me another sweet deal on a new Taurus .357 and I was happy ever after.

Eb1
December 4, 2010, 01:23 AM
Academy runs those .38 5 shots on special about every 3 to 4 months for $209 or $199. I am sure it will do what a .38 with a 3" barrel is made to do if it is called upon.
10-96 makes probably the best gun post I have read in a long time. I agree with that post 100%.


There is a post on thehighroad that describes how to check revolvers for quality. Print it, memorize it, or write it down. Take it with you to the store, and examine the firearm. Keep an open mind regarding the finish of the revolver.. Your looking for protection not a competition gun. Correct?

vanguard7
December 4, 2010, 07:56 AM
btg3 , i have had my Georgia weapons License for 3 months

vanguard7
December 4, 2010, 08:08 AM
To everyone who says he can get a Smith for $200 in his area, tell him where. I've been to a lot of gun shops lately and I haven't seen any for less than $400, and none suitable for carry. Sure, if he shopped around for the next six months he might find the model he needs, (after spending a lot of money on gas) but he needs some protection now.

Have a knowledgeable person check out the Rossi if you're unsure, and remember, they do have a warranty.
this is so true, all the pawn shops near me want $400.00 for any s&w gun.

bikerdoc
December 4, 2010, 08:32 AM
Buy the Rossi and and protect you and yours. When a better deal comes along and you can afford it go for it. I was forced to sell all my guns in 94 to pay for a divorce, a used Rossi was all I could afford It was an Ok gun and I still have it to remind me a tough times.

God bless and I hope things get better
Doc

rayman
December 4, 2010, 08:47 AM
That gun cost a week's wages. I agree, S&W's aren't that cheap anymore.

shootingthebreeze
December 4, 2010, 02:30 PM
orionengnr, I have to say that any gun make, even high end weapons, can have issues, and I have read about a lot of breakdowns here with expensive handguns during breakin periods.
So to say that Taurus is an inferior weapons maker is misleading. Taurus has improved their quality, has an excellent customer service and has retooled with brand new equipment. Glocks, Sigs, and higher models can break down, and that's why any new handgun must be qualified with 300+ rounds during breakin before trusting it as a weapon you can depend on.

Resto Guy
December 4, 2010, 03:28 PM
I bought this Interarms Rossi M-851 (.38 spl.) about 15 years ago. After well in excess of 1000 rounds it has never given me any trouble. In fact, I enjoy shooting it more than my Dan Wesson or my Smith.
It's also accurate. I've watched my son shoot a target at 10 yds. with a cylinder full, then reload and knock down bowling pins at 50 yds.

Tomcat47
December 4, 2010, 04:38 PM
twenty some years ago a divorce and hard times fell on me as well....an entire collection of antique Marlin Levers, and not to mention revolvers, autos, etc. had to be sold!

Sometime later having no carry weapon, my neighbor came over to see if I wanted to buy a little pistol for $60.00

I didnt even have $60 bucks to spare. I ended up trading a craftsmen toolbox for the little gun and a Ruger .22 auto. I sold the Ruger for some quick cash
but ......

I have always kept the little gun, have never even thought of selling it, trading it or giving it away! And it was not until bikerdoc's post that I realized why I hang on to it. IT REMINDS ME! of how tough it can get in this old world. :cool:

IT WAS A FIE TITAN .25 AUTO! & A TITAN MIGHT BE ALL ONE NEEDS SOMETIMES

And God Bless Indeed !

CajunBass
December 5, 2010, 12:36 AM
Get the Rossi if that's what you can afford. Shoot the snot out of it. When you can afford it, get something nicer.

Shoot, I've got a Hi-Point I got back when money was short.

Ala Dan
December 5, 2010, 12:55 AM
As I have stated many times over, my wife has been carrying a stainless, 2",
square butt Rossi model 88 in .38 Special since the fall of 1994. I function
fired this weapon on many occassions, and it rivals a Smith & Wesson "Chief's
Special" of that period; as being dependable, as well as very accurate.

I've tried to get her to carry other weapons, including my old model S&W
60; or my 37-2, one of my Colt Dick Specials, etc. - but she refuses, liking
instead her model 88 Rossi. This little Rossi is a superb firearm in every
respect; and came along before the marriage of Rossi too Taurus~! ;) :D

Nomad, 2nd
December 5, 2010, 01:18 AM
Honest Question:

You guys with the .25's, hi points etc....

Don't have a friend who would lend you a beat up S&W, or Glock, or old Colt???

I don't have piles of friends, but I can think of several who would lend me one, and I would them...

sxcamaro05
December 5, 2010, 01:50 AM
Nothin wrong with the Rossi name brand its just not as flashy as others. I liked the feeling better than the Charter Arms but it is obviously not on par with others (s&w etc). Pick it up and see how it fits you and listen to yourself on it. It's really not a bad deal for the price, especially if you are concerned about protecting your family etc.

Stumper
December 5, 2010, 10:13 AM
The older Rossis were essentially Smith and Wessons- Smith built a factory in Brazil to fulfill a contract and Amadeo Rossi bought the tooling and continued producing revolvers on it. My understanding is that the newer Rossis have a simplified lockwork ala Taurus (which now controls Rossi. This is not BAD since they remain functional guns and often have good trigger pulls but it is a less tunable lockwork for those wanting the ultimate in slick function. I own 4 Rossis. Every one is a good serviceable gun which I enjoy shooting.

Guillermo
December 5, 2010, 12:19 PM
Trust me, I have been in your situation. I ended up with a horrible Taurus that would break in the drawer.

With that experience in mind my preference would be a used Model 10. As mentioned...better gun, better resale value.

If you are going to buy a Rossi or a Taurus I would suggest used. Save a little much needed cash.

Check for a PM from me. I am sending you a link with a guy that wants to sell a Model 10 for 225. With shipping and FFL it is going to be about the same as the new Rossi plus tax.

Also I would suggest that you give him a call. He is a nice guy and might have something stashed that is great mechanically, not so cosmetically and will let you have it really cheap. (A buddy got a mechanically sound but ugly as a baboon butt Colt Detective Special from him for 175 bucks)

Best of luck to you and your family.

CajunBass
December 5, 2010, 12:34 PM
Honest Question:

You guys with the .25's, hi points etc....

Don't have a friend who would lend you a beat up S&W, or Glock, or old Colt???

I don't have piles of friends, but I can think of several who would lend me one, and I would them...

They might. But I wouldn't borrow one from them. You can if you want to.

Nomad, 2nd
December 5, 2010, 03:12 PM
They might. But I wouldn't borrow one from them. You can if you want to.

I am sorry for you.

roaddog28
December 5, 2010, 03:18 PM
Hi again,
Here is what I bought on Gunbroker about a year and a half age. A S&W Model 10-14 4 inch revolver unfired with box. Price $275.00. Like others have said, a person can get a model 10/64 for around $250. A little patience will pay off.
Howard
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu283/HPitt74985/model10-14a.jpg

rayman
December 5, 2010, 03:26 PM
What it's worth & what people are asking are different things. Most people start at $400. You got lucky. This guy needs a gun now.

vanguard7
December 5, 2010, 04:02 PM
well it does not look like i will be getting the rossi any time soon unless academy sports has a layaway plan, between my new $7.50 an hour job and my wifes unemployment we have enough to pay the rent and bills, the only way i could get the Rossi is if i sold my shotgun i keep in the house for home defence for my wife when im gone.

Nomad, 2nd
December 5, 2010, 04:11 PM
well it does not look like i will be getting the rossi any time soon unless academy sports has a layaway plan, between my new $7.50 an hour job and my wifes unemployment we have enough to pay the rent and bills, the only way i could get the Rossi is if i sold my shotgun i keep in the house for home defence for my wife when im gone.

Have you considered selling plasma?

Where I'm about to move to they buy plasma, I'm gonna sell enough plasma to buy a gun just so I can say I've sold blood to buy a gun!:D

jonmerritt
December 5, 2010, 08:19 PM
I have a Rossi .357 snubbie, had it for almost 2 years now. It has been stupid accurate for a snubbie. (50 yrds with a foot and a half hold over with .38 spcl rounds, just for fun)
Perfect score for my carry permit qualification. Hundreds upon hundreds, and then some, rounds at the target range, and it is still tight. Trigger has improved alot. And in single action, the trigger is VERY light, no creep or wiggle, and breaks like a piece of glass. Keep an eye on the firing pin though, peened into the hammer, looks light duty, but it has not failed yet, (don't think it will). Would I stake my life on this little wheel gun? YES! And .357 loads punch back HARD in this little revolver, but man do they draw attention at the range.

CajunBass
December 5, 2010, 08:21 PM
I am sorry for you.

Thanks, but no need to be sorry. I'd have to have problems a lot worse than needing a gun to go around bugging my friends.

orionengnr
December 5, 2010, 08:52 PM
Having been in a position (once upon a time) when a used Rossi M68 was my only handgun, and after experiencing it's absolute unreliabilty (it would fire one round, the cylinder would come unlatched and open about 1/8" due to the recoil, and pressing the trigger would have no effect whatsoever...a slap on the left side of the cylinder would re-latch it, allowing one more shot, and the process would repeat). I took it to a smith, who said it would cost more to repair than it was worth. I tried some common-sense home-smithing without any success.

This was back in 1984 or so. I gave it an attitude adjustment with a six-pound sledge, and threw it in a lake. So far as I know, it's still there.

I would check J&G or other sources for a used S&W 64. My LGS was selling them for $200 recently, and there are more out there.

shootingthebreeze
December 6, 2010, 01:09 PM
jonmerritt, you basically described my Rossi 357/38 snub stainless steel revolver in your message #43. I'm still surprised how accurate it is at 50 yds- though it's dead accurate at 20 feet, all rounds in the center bulls eye. Have had this piece since 1997, and after hundreds of rounds still fires like new. No problems. And yes, it's an attentiaon getter with .357 at the range!
My CCW instructor liked my "snubbie" when I qualified using .38.

BAGTIC
January 3, 2011, 11:15 PM
I have a couple of Rossis including a 971. They have both been solid reliable guns and I have not had one problem.

They may not have the status or snob appeal of some other brands and they may not appreciate as much in the future. OTOH I don't need to impress anyone and I buy guns to shoot, not to swap.

Hoppes Love Potion
January 4, 2011, 12:48 AM
Rossi 461 .357 snub. Very good, especially for the price. Great grips, nice trigger, and the bluing almost looks as good as the old S&Ws. No complaints here.

fireside44
January 4, 2011, 01:08 AM
I have handled and shot several Rossi guns as well as owning a model 720. They are accurate and reliable as well as being a great deal for the money.

natman
January 4, 2011, 03:37 AM
Over the years I've owned several Rossis. A couple of Winchester 92 copies. A 20 ga coach gun. A 22 pump. A stainless steel 22 revolver.

None were particularly accurate or reliable. All were crudely finished internally. I've sold them all, except for the revolver, which I keep as a reminder why I shouldn't buy any more.

DNS
January 4, 2011, 04:15 AM
I bought the .38 snubby roughly 18 months ago and its been great. The finish is better than my old model 10 actually. A couple machining marks look kinda crude but it works great.

A buddy has the 3" with zero issues.

My wife loves it and its her favorite bedside gun for when I'm out of town. And no, i won't let her put the pink grips on it.

jimmyraythomason
January 4, 2011, 07:26 AM
Why do people keep saying that S&Ws keep their value but turn around and say they can be easily found for under $200? Doesn't sound so good to me.

fireside44
January 4, 2011, 07:29 AM
Why do people keep saying that S&Ws keep their value but turn around and say they can be easily found for under $200? Doesn't sound so good to me.

LOL. Delusion would be my guess. I'll take a $300 Rossi over a $200 Smith, or what's left of it any day.

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