Smith and Wesson 25-2


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Birdmang
December 3, 2010, 08:34 PM
Smith and Wesson 25-2

Someone please tell me about this gun. 6 inch barrel I believe and target/forget hammer and trigger. No lock. .45 caliber, but what does it fire? .45 Long colt or .45 ACP?

Is this a good hunting gun?

Thanks

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orionengnr
December 3, 2010, 08:58 PM
The 25-2 is .45 acp.

AKPastor
December 3, 2010, 09:31 PM
Yep .45 acp

I have one and it is a joy to shoot. My barrel is 6.5". I haven't used it as a hunting gun, but it is my preferred camping/hiking gun. I trust it with the right loads to take care of anything I encounter in interior Alaska.

Apex29
December 3, 2010, 10:33 PM
45 ACP and you use moon or half-moon clips. Back in the day I'd load half-moon clips by hand. Unloading the spent cartridges was really hard on my thumbs. Especially on freezing days.

Now I use full moon clips and tool I bought from Dillons. It makes all the difference.

Ron James
December 3, 2010, 10:49 PM
Most folks do not consistently the .45 ACP a hunting firearm. Perhaps with very hot loads and if you can consistently hit a pie plate at 50 yards.

Birdmang
December 3, 2010, 11:57 PM
Only question about the cartridge it shoots was because the tag said .45LC and the barell said .45 caliber or something to that matter, it did not specify LC or ACP.

Marshall
December 4, 2010, 12:19 AM
Only question about the cartridge it shoots was because the tag said .45LC and the barell said .45 caliber or something to that matter, it did not specify LC or ACP.

Could the barrel have said ".45 Cal Model of 1950"? Is it pinned?

Read this........

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=31603

Birdmang
December 4, 2010, 01:26 AM
I Cannot tell if it's pinned or not and don't have it with me. The front site is orange and ramped. The rear site it very low and that's all I know about it for now...

S&Wfan
December 4, 2010, 01:41 AM
Hi,

The 25-2 is a .45ACP revolver. Most came with 6 1/2" barrels, though some later ones had 6" tubes.

One of the all-time classic target revolvers!

Marshall
December 4, 2010, 02:15 AM
Get all the info you can including the serial number.

Birdmang
December 4, 2010, 02:42 AM
Ill make sure to post it when I have the info. Thanks for the help so far!

d4xycrq
December 4, 2010, 07:40 AM
I have a rather old example of a 25-2 - and it is probably the most accurate handgun I own. Back when I would go to 'board shoots' or "turkey shoots', I considered this gun as cheating. I also used it for bowling pin shoots, in the revolver class.

Ray

StrawHat
December 4, 2010, 08:07 AM
Of the old blued revolvers, the 25-2 is the 45 ACP/45AR version and the 25-5 is the one cut for thre 45 long Colt cartridge. (If the frame is mismarked, all bets are off!) I have both and like them. As for using it for hunting, it depends on where you are hunting, what you are hunting and how accuractely you can handle it. The 25-2 is a premier target revolver but a 255 grain bullet at 900 fps is going to knock down any deer on this continent.

If you handload, you can easily reach those numbers. I have full moon clips and like them. I also use the 45 Auto Rim to handload for this revolver.

Quoheleth
December 4, 2010, 08:43 AM
I have the 25-5 in .45 Colt (aka Long Colt) and it's an absolute joy to shoot and a wonder to handle. Heft, smooth, great lines, and a nice big push of recoil - and a nice BOOM vis a vis the hypersonic crack of the .357 Magnum - great gun.

Your 25-2 in .45ACP should also be a lot of fun. The big N-frame is a grin-maker in and of itself. It's the same frame as Dirty Harry's 29. You'll catch yourself standing in front of a mirror with a (triple-checked) empty gun, glaring, and with a clenched jaw doing the Dirty Harry, "Well, do you feel lucky PUNK?" And you'll have to smile because your 25's .45 caliber drills a bigger hole than Eastwood's .429.

Q

dnovo
December 4, 2010, 11:10 AM
To differentiate between the 45ACP and the LC look at the cylinder. The LC is 'straight' while the ACP will show the slight recess to allow the rimless round to headspace properly. The LC headspaces on the rim. If you are not sure, any decent gunsmith can tell at a glance as can an experienced shooter. Dave

DickM
December 4, 2010, 11:51 AM
In addition to the differences others have mentioned, the cylinder on my 25-2 in .45 ACP measures 1.54" in length; the cylinder on my 25-5 in .45 Colt is 1.65". That doesn't sound like much of a difference, but it's easily noticeable.

As dnovo mentioned, you can also look into the chambers on the cylinder - the .45 Colt does have a narrowing, as do most if not all revolvers, but it's clearly a short taper and it's about 3/4 of the way toward the front of the cylinder. The .45 ACP has a very definite sharp step for headspacing, and it's closer to halfway along the cylinder.

I'll join others in mentioning that the 25-2 is my favorite range gun and likely the most accurate revolver I own. I really don't like moon clips, so load .45 AR for it.

Deanimator
December 4, 2010, 12:30 PM
I've got a 25-2 that I use for our club's annual revolver league.

I shoot the 25-2 better than I shoot my Model 14. The greater mass gives it more inertia, making my arc of movement smaller and slower.

Mine is extremely accurate.

To the best of my knowledge EVERY 25-2 was pinned.

I'd prefer my 29-2 for hunting, but I imagine a hard cast LSWC at maximum safe velocity would kill any deer you're likely to find in Missouri or Ohio. The only loads I shoot out of mine are just hot enough to cycle the action of my M1911 wadcutter gun.

Marshall
December 4, 2010, 02:24 PM
Ill make sure to post it when I have the info. Thanks for the help so far!

You're welcome. The only reason I posted that link was because of the tag saying one thing and the revolver possibly being different. I just wanted you to know about the possibility of an actual mismarked revolver and it being worth quite a bit of money if it happens to be one. Stranger things have happened and it's not out of the realm of possibility, as seen in that thread. It's worth at least the knowledge to check it out.

AKPastor
December 4, 2010, 04:28 PM
I like what several folks have said about accuracy. Every time I shoot my 25-2, I get the feeling that it shoots better than I do. I sometimes use it as my daily carry due to its accuracy. I have a great shoulder rig and I'm a big guy so I can pull it off pretty easy.

Walkalong
December 4, 2010, 04:40 PM
The 25-2 .in 45 ACP is an outstanding revolver. The 25-5 in .45 Colt is as well.

25-2 .45 ACP Pic (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=79969&d=1213558278)

25-5 .45 Colt Pic (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=114633&d=1265035956)

Notice the big gap between the front of the cylinder and the frame on the .45 ACP vs the .45 Colt. That is an easy way to tell which one it is.

SaxonPig
December 4, 2010, 06:06 PM
The 25-2 in 45 ACP is a deluxe target grade revolver. The 45 ACP is not generally considered adequate for hunting anything above very small game.

I have one that was made in 1980.

http://www.fototime.com/DE65887AA6A50EC/standard.jpg

Birdmang
December 4, 2010, 07:43 PM
I was mistaken. it is a pinned barrel 25-5. so shoots 45 colt only?

Walkalong
December 4, 2010, 09:55 PM
Yes. .45 Colt only. Great caliber in its own right.

AKPastor
December 4, 2010, 10:24 PM
I would imagine it would be as much of a joy to own as the 25-2

StrawHat
December 5, 2010, 07:04 AM
...The 45 ACP is not generally considered adequate for hunting anything above very small game...

Most folks do not consistently the .45 ACP a hunting firearm.

How is it that a 255 grain bullet at 900 fps is different from the same bullet at the same speed from a different cartridge?

SaxonPig
December 5, 2010, 10:24 AM
Not sure what you mean with your question. Of course equal bullet weights at equal velocities offer equal capabilities. IMO neither the 45 ACP or 45 Colt are the best choice for handgun hunting.

The ACP lacks velocity for adequate penetration on larger animals and it's slow speed makes a rainbow trajectory. The Colt in its original loading is much the same. The large case capacity of the 45 Colt inspires many shooters to hot rod this round but that's a bad idea in the S&W with its relatively thin chamber walls. In a stouter gun, sure, the Colt can be jacked up to 1,200 or 1,300 FPS making it a whole different situation.

Birdmang
December 5, 2010, 12:23 PM
I need new grips for this, is it a square or round but N frame?

Deanimator
December 5, 2010, 12:24 PM
I need new grips for this, is it a square or round but N frame?
All original 25-2s are square butt.

Birdmang
December 5, 2010, 12:26 PM
How about a 25-5?

DickM
December 5, 2010, 12:31 PM
I believe all the 25-5s were square butt, but if you look at the "Common S&W Identifying Features" sticky at the top of this forum you'll find a photo showing both styles and you can compare to your gun.

Birdmang
December 5, 2010, 12:50 PM
Thank you

Deanimator
December 5, 2010, 12:53 PM
How about a 25-5?
To the best of my knowledge all regular production 25-2s and 5s are square butt.

The only possible exceptions I can think of might be special distributor runs of the 2" or 3" guns. Lew Horton has ordered a bunch of special runs of things, especially short barreled N-Frames. I don't know if there were any real 25-2s or 25-5s and whether they had round butts or not. Most of the ones I've seen have been post pinned & recessed guns, and most of them with locks. :(

The S&W Forums would be a good place to ask. If nobody there knows, nobody ANYWHERE knows.

Birdmang
December 7, 2010, 11:31 AM
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/bassbikerdan/mms_picture-46.jpg

Bill B.
December 7, 2010, 10:37 PM
Some of the S&W 25-5's in 45 LC I have read had over sized throats and so so accuracy. Perhaps someone with first hand knowledge will chime in and give you some info. I do own the S&W 25-2 1955 Target and can vouch for the fact that it shoots quite well! They do seem to favor lead over .45 ACP hardball from what I have shot in mine.

DickM
December 7, 2010, 11:30 PM
You said you're getting new grips - i.e., you're going to replace those smooth S&W target grips? If that's the case, please send me a PM, I'll make you a nice offer on them.

Birdmang
December 8, 2010, 12:30 AM
They aren't Smith grips...theyre eagle. Screw is on the wrong side.

StrawHat
December 8, 2010, 12:50 PM
Birdmang ...I was mistaken. it is a pinned barrel 25-5. so shoots 45 colt only?...

Nice revolver and from the picture, with the 8 3/8" barrel. Depending on what you normally hunt, the cartridge is certainly up to the job. It can also o double duty as a plinking and small game revolver with correct loads. If the planets were aligned when yours was built, it can even hit targets! Mine can.

Do you handload? If so, PM me for some loading threads. I have a 6" barreled 25-5 and use it for hunting and woods loafing. Looking for a 4" version of the same but no luck so far.

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