$2000 to start gun collection- what would you buy?


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North_Texas
December 4, 2010, 02:55 PM
I just inherited my father's gun collection. It isnt much to write home about, but now that I have these few shotguns and rifles id like to add to it every now and then and possibly in the near future display them in some form/fashion in my game room.

If you had $2000 to spend on a gun (pistol, rifle, shotgun) to add to a collection where you would keep for years to come and use a few times a year, what would you buy to add to you collection?

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North_Texas
December 4, 2010, 02:59 PM
FYI Im looking for something fairly rare, that is of high quality and that would appreciate with time. Like one of these shotguns I got from my father is a Belgium Browning- I dont think it is that valuable, but looks nice and has some character I like.

http://www.shootersxchange.com/images/items/full/80603.JPG

Yarddog
December 4, 2010, 03:22 PM
"[would keep for years to come and use a few times a year]"

NOT Going to happen. If I buy a gun I'm darn sure going to shoot the snot out of it ; )
Y/D

buck460XVR
December 4, 2010, 03:26 PM
If you had $2000 to spend on a gun (pistol, rifle, shotgun) to add to a collection where you would keep for years to come and use a few times a year, what would you buy to add to you collection?


If you are talking a single firearm, it would be a semi-custom 1911. If it were multiple guns it would be a Colt Stainless 1991 and a Performance Center Revolver in a magnum caliber.

North_Texas
December 4, 2010, 03:29 PM
like this buck460?

http://www.impactguns.com/store/098289012111.html

http://www.gunsamerica.com/996037044/Guns/Pistols/Smith-Wesson-Revolvers/Performance-Center/SMITH_WESSON_MODEL_16_4_32_H_R_MAGNUM.htm

Nomad, 2nd
December 4, 2010, 03:33 PM
to add to a collection


Not enough data to answer

North_Texas
December 4, 2010, 03:36 PM
so Nomad, assume there were no guns in your collection, what firearm would start your collection?

John Wayne
December 4, 2010, 03:45 PM
It would help to know what you already have, and what you plan to do with what you get.

Answers will be completely different depending on whether you interests include benchrest shooting, tactical carbine courses, steel challenge matches, trap/skeet/sporting clays, general plinking, IDPA, defensive handguns, camping/truck guns, carry guns, hunting rifles, handgun hunting, silhouette shooting, bullseye shooting, etc.

The list is quite extensive. Firearms can be quite specialized for the task they were designed for. $2000 either gets you a lot of fancy ornamentation or a lot of specialization.

North_Texas
December 4, 2010, 03:49 PM
already have
.410
2 12 gauges
1 10 gauge
3 20 gauges

plan
shoot them 2-3 times per year at the range

I am a complete newb to the gun arena, all I do is go to the range 2-3 times per year and the rest of the time clean them up and display them.

postalnut25
December 4, 2010, 03:52 PM
I have actually thought about this in regards to starting my kids out right. I figured for about $2000 I could get each kid a decent rifle like a Remington 700, a good shotgun like a Remington 870, a used Glock 17 or 19, and a decent revolver along the lines of a Colt Trooper or S&W 686.

North_Texas
December 4, 2010, 03:53 PM
that is exactly what I am trying to do postalnut. Start a nice collection of fairly rare/unique firearms that will only appreciate with time so that I can pass them down to my children in 40 years.

GCBurner
December 4, 2010, 03:53 PM
You need a nice 16 gauge and a 28 gauge to round out the set. :)

PT1911
December 4, 2010, 03:54 PM
I say find a nice used Steyr bolt action.. that should full your criteria as well as drain your pocket...:neener:

It really comes down to what your shooting interests are.. There are a lot of incredibly expensive guns out there that are surprisingly "homely."

On second thought.. I say get a Ruger No.1... you can get them in anything from 204 to a 450/400 nitro express... I personally like the international :D

North_Texas
December 4, 2010, 03:55 PM
is this a nice one?

http://www.shootersxchange.com/detail.cfm?recordID=79236

sprice
December 4, 2010, 03:55 PM
1911, glock, brownin hi power, ak/ar, battle rifle of some sort (fal, m14, g3, etc.) or a scoped sniper type or hunting bolt, lever action, single action army/.22 or clone thereof, .22 pistol and/or rifle. There is to many hahaha.

My bad I didn't see your second post. colt 1911, browning hi power, colt ar, colt single action army. Actually, most any colt or FN weapon would be fine.

Rail Driver
December 4, 2010, 03:56 PM
Personally if I had $2000 I would put $1500 into an AR-15 with a (legal) SBR upper in .450 Bushmaster. The remaining $500 would go to ammo. :D

SundownRider
December 4, 2010, 03:57 PM
Spend $1500 on guns and $500 on ammo.

You can pick your own.

Mags
December 4, 2010, 03:58 PM
I would get a service grade Garand and a war era 1911. you might even have enough money left for a Kar98K or a trench gun.

btg3
December 4, 2010, 03:59 PM
Seems you need a handgun? Additionally, smaller guns leave room for more guns. I'd lean toward a Python or a high-end 1911. I own neither as my firearms tend to be frequently-shot-utilitarian rather than collectible-semi-safe-queen.

Also, review your insurance for coverage. You may need a rider depending on your policy and the value of your collection.

788Ham
December 4, 2010, 04:05 PM
Your saying the "Belgian Browning isn't that valuable, but it looks nice." Any time you wanna get rid of it, let me know, I'll take it off your hands! Definitely worth hanging onto Lad!

North_Texas
December 4, 2010, 04:08 PM
Your saying the "Belgian Browning isn't that valuable, but it looks nice." Any time you wanna get rid of it, let me know, I'll take it off your hands! Definitely worth hanging onto Lad!
Is it? I am new to all of this, just doing the research. Im definitely hanging onto it, my grandfather bought it/brought it over from Belgium in the late 50s/early 60's my grandmother said.

Autolycus
December 4, 2010, 04:08 PM
A nice 1911 of sorts. Perhaps a few revolvers. Do you want to just keep them on the wall or do you want some use out of them?

788Ham
December 4, 2010, 04:11 PM
You'll never find one like that again anytime soon! Unless you find someone who has one in a collection like you're wanting to start. They don't make those kinds anymore is my statement, a rarity on the bed there Lad, don't let it out of your sight, best left as a "safe queen" !!

mustang_steve
December 4, 2010, 04:12 PM
I wouldn't spend $2k on a single firearm...I'm a shooter, not a collector....although I do have a collection, but they're all "shooters" guns, minimal collector's value, but they do the job very well.

Ghosty1
December 4, 2010, 04:14 PM
hi all. new here.
ive read THR for a bit, and mostly been really helpful. so, as my first post...
heres what ID do with 2k and no guns...
buy just one numbers matching k98k.
just kidding...
get a glock. 9mm.
600 dollars, new.
get ANY 1911, in any shape...
??? dollars figure 750 for a good one...
books and reloading stuff, and tea or other adult beverage for your mentors...
100 dollars
so now, we can play!
mossberg 12 ga pump.
gotta have as we are startin out
find a pal, do whatever you must do, to aquire a GOOD RC mauser 98k
the rest of the money you spend on ammo!

-G

North_Texas
December 4, 2010, 04:15 PM
I wouldn't spend $2k on a single firearm...I'm a shooter, not a collector....although I do have a collection, but they're all "shooters" guns, minimal collector's value, but they do the job very well.

see, im looking to do the opposite, buy firearms that are more rare, and collectors items vs. shooting frequently.

S.W.G.
December 4, 2010, 04:17 PM
If you had $2000 to spend on a gun (pistol, rifle, shotgun) to add to a collection where you would keep for years to come and use a few times a year, what would you buy to add to you collection?

Something in .22 for fun - $200 +-
A pump 12 gauge for HD - $200 through $350-ish
Some intermediate-caliber carbine (Mini-14, AK) - $400-$1000
And a handgun or a revolver - $400 - $700?

Not really a 'collection' in the sense that they aren't particulary rare or valuable, but I think it's a good idea to diversify (get one of something for each major activity) before expanding into more high-end or uniqu stuff.

EDIT: I need to read everything the poster writes before responding. Whoops. :o

hso
December 4, 2010, 04:50 PM
Gas trap Garandhttp://www.armchairgunshow.com/ot53-pix/ws-7146_small.jpg

Early configured M1 Carbinehttp://historydocumented.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/m1carbine-300x225.jpg

Inglis Hi Power with stock http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTSufVc1h05Fpeo41W492SGDRA_NQC9nG4ojKYc8GnQpsELxgqo

WWII German Hi Powerhttp://www.icollector.com/images/1618/18213/18213_1847_1_md.jpg

North_Texas
December 4, 2010, 05:18 PM
wow, thanks HSO, great recommendations.

and man, that gas trap gun is expensive!

John Wayne
December 4, 2010, 05:19 PM
It's been a while since I've priced a S&W registered magnum, but that's where I'd start.

Other items on the list would be a Luger, 100 year commemorative 1911, and Colt SAA as far as handguns go.

The OP seems to have bases covered regarding shotguns. There is room for a few more, but lacking rifles and handguns I'd buy those first.

An M1 Garand, 1903 Springfield, and .30-40 Krag-Jorgensen are all great classic American military rifles with a place in any collection. Lee-Enfields are nice too, and not terribly expensive.

Everyone needs a .30-30 lever action Winchester model 94. If you've got 2 grand to spend, might as well make it a pre-'64. Pre-'64 model 70s would be a nice addition too.

I would caution you though to do your research on whatever you plan to buy. Otherwise you run the risk of being swindled, as a lot of sellers will pass off junk to you. You owe it to yourself to do your research for other reasons as well, not the least of which is a full appreciation of what you're buying.

There will be plenty of people out there who for years have longed for some of the guns you want to buy but couldn't afford them. Don't be "that guy" everyone hates who comes along and buys something just because he has the money and everyone says that's what he ought to get. Might as well get a Jennings with a nice high-polish chrome finish if you don't appreciate quality.

Nomad, 2nd
December 4, 2010, 05:20 PM
so Nomad, assume there were no guns in your collection, what firearm would start your collection?

Assuming $2K is for guns only.
With Ammo, mags, holsters etc.

$400- $450
Used Glock 26 with Night sites.
Intent: Can CCW this in anything short of a bathing suit.

~$400 WASR (To add a Romanian Folding stock right away)

And:
-Night sites (Fuller rear)
-Light and light mount
-Blue force gear single point sling.
-Later Ultimak and Aimpoint.

Intent: Rifle... see 'Free man'

$400- $450
Glock 19 with night sites (Used)
-TRL-1

Intent: 2 is one 1 is none... A Glock sits on my nightstand (With TRL-1) 'Fighting pistol' etc

Ruger MK2
Under $150 used

Intent: .22's are just fun, can kill critters and teach with it.

CZ 452 (I like the European style... with the Iron sites)
I paid $199 for mine. I understand they are more now.

intent: Hardly shoot my other .22's since this one came along. Everyone needs a .22

I picked up a Winchester model 12 for $201...
They are ususally a little more.

(Mine's heavily modified... use it on my Motorcycle... covers shotguns...)

THat's about $2K just in guns.

Few things I'd miss.

Hi Power, S&W's, 1911's, FAL's etc...
But that'd do.

SigP229R
December 4, 2010, 05:20 PM
[COLOR="Navy"]Another Sig probably a 220 and a couple of good used Berettas.COLOR]

Gik-tal
December 4, 2010, 05:25 PM
I might want to suggest that before you start to build your collection you invest in a good safe to put them in.

Sauer Grapes
December 4, 2010, 08:56 PM
Collectables hold or increase in value only if they are not shot IMO.

Something like an early Colt Woodsman in new or near new cond are collectables. Collectors don't shoot collector items, they just collect.
A Glock anything isn't a collectable.
Look at the collectable cars, they don't drive real collectables.
You can buy "classics", like some S&W and Colt pistols, take them to the range and enjoy them. Rare configurations in shotguns can be collector grade or just nice to own depending on condition.

huntsman
December 4, 2010, 09:07 PM
$2000 to start gun collection- what would you buy?

Excluding SD and hunting just a fun gun, I'd get a Colt Diamondback in .22lr and if I had enough cash left a .38spl also. I don’t know how much upside is left in their prices; a SAA would also be a thought.

doc2rn
December 4, 2010, 09:25 PM
You need a:
Marlin 39A .22lr
Buckmark or Ruger MKII .22lr pistol

Both are essential to learning to shoot and paired ammo combos of rifle/pistol make reloading a snap

spraay
December 4, 2010, 09:38 PM
Your statement about going to the range a few times a year, versus shooting frequently, make this hard. I buy guns and shoot them, sometimes a lot. Do you intend to use one of these guns for personal defense? If so get a pistol, the 1911 type is all the rage right now, but in all candor a $500 Beretta 92FS in 9mm is fun at the range and relatively easy on the wallet, while passable as a defensive arm. You can get a .22lr conversion kit to shoot even cheaper ammo.

It also sounds like a rifle is in order. An AR-15/M4 pattern carbine is a popular choice and can be had in $1000 range for a usable gun. Or if hunting may be in your future, a nice bolt-action .30-06 or .308 with a decent scope for approximately the same money. The AR will be easier on the shoulder and cheaper to shoot, while the bolt-rifle is more useful for hunting larger game and shots at longer range. An inexpensive .22lr rifle can be added for just a couple of hundered. Think Ruger 10/22 or Marlin model 60. Tons of fun to shoot, you can tune up your marksmanship and spend next to nothing in the process. Great for adults and kids.

None of the guns I've suggested are terribly special or 'cool', but more than effective for a variety of uses. Spend some of that coin on ammo and learn to shoot these guns well and you'll be good to go.

That's my $.02.

SP

oneounceload
December 4, 2010, 09:54 PM
2K for a collection? That would only be a down payment on one gun for me

mustang_steve
December 4, 2010, 10:25 PM
Collecting rare guns....2k is a down payment. I've seen rifles that cost as much as new BMWs...

You may be able to get an original issue M1911 and possibly a more common C&R piece or two.

orionengnr
December 4, 2010, 10:59 PM
If you were a shooter, I'd recommend spending ~$500 on reloading gear, but that doesn't seem to be within your interest range.

If you were interested in adding quality handguns to your collection, I could make some recommendations.

Given what you have posted, I would spend the $2000 on a decent safe to preserve what you have. Then buy stand-alone gun insurance (should be well under $100 per year at your current level.)

Not too exciting, but arguably some of the best advice you will receive. :)

MikeNice
December 4, 2010, 11:08 PM
I'm going to respond before I read anybody else's post.

I would start with

1 Auto Ordance M1 Carbine black furniture($575)
1 NY-1 S&W Model 64 .38spl ($279)
1 Surplus CZ-82 ($259)
1 Mossberg 500sp ($345)
1 Springfield G.I Champ 4" ($540)

Now if I was only going to get one or two really nice guns I would do it a little different.

1 Colt Day of The Dead 1911 (.38super) $1,800

or

1 Colt 1911 Government Enhanced Competition ($900)
1 Auto Ordance M1 Carbine walnut furniture ($800)

MikeNice
December 4, 2010, 11:19 PM
Well it seems I kind of missed the whole point.

I would go with one of the Talco special edition Colts or Walthers. That will give you something newer that can be shot a little and still be a collector. If you are really in to collecting don't buy anything you want to shoot. Collections are for fondling they ain't for firing.

If you want old and collectible long guns that you can shoot,

.303 British Sniper Rifle with cheek pad and Scope
M1 Garand
1903 Springfield
M1 Carbine with the Paratrooper stock

Old krow
December 4, 2010, 11:40 PM
If I were gong for "rare" or special in the sense that I'd spend more money on the gun and less on ammo, I'd consider the cost of a safe to protect my investment.

Assuming that I bought the safe first, I'd spend the rest on one gun. I'd probably look at a 1911 (Probably a Colt) or a Browning HP. If you favor revolvers, a pre-lock SW would make a nice addition to a collection.

If I didn't buy a safe, I'd get a 1911 or Browning HP and a Nice revolver.

If you are going to shoot a lot, a 9mm is easier on the wallet that a .45.

marv
December 5, 2010, 12:15 AM
I have started concentrating on good quality mouse guns. They don't take up so much space in the safe.

thorazine
December 5, 2010, 04:20 AM
If you had $2000 to spend on a gun (pistol, rifle, shotgun) to add to a collection where you would keep for years to come and use a few times a year, what would you buy to add to you collection?

Buckmark and suppressor.
P226 and suppressor.

Magazines.. ammunition.. etc.

Then save up more money then get a USP tactical and suppressor.

kayak-man
December 5, 2010, 06:33 AM
custom 1911

M1 Garand

Thompson?

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson

9mmforMe
December 5, 2010, 07:31 AM
I agree with the gentlemen who advised that you get a good quality safe, if its collectable its going to be worth protecting; and that means more than in a footlocker or a locked rifle case that can be carried off into the night.

walker944
December 5, 2010, 07:54 AM
And, I agree with those stating that $2,000 for collectible guns would be only the downpayment. Sounds like you need to really do some investigating about the gun industry and market. From my prospective, if a gun is going to be a collectible, then I probably would not shoot it. The more it's taken to the range, handled, shot, etc, the more risk and exposure to mechanical problems, nicks, scratches, etc, which will devaluate the gun. So, I wouldn't waste much money at all in ammo.

On the other hand, if you have a desire to shoot, then you may want to reconsider your desire for collectibles; and consider something more everyday practical. If you have been around guns much at all, then you are aware that there are gobs of different styles, calibers, and variations to fill volumes on this, or any other, discussion board. And, they have. So, again, you need to do some research....web-based or at gun stores, or gun shows, and start to develop your own sense of what you like and don't like. Everyone here has their own opinion, and you should balance every one of them with what you see your needs and wants leaning toward. No one knows what that is but you. Good luck, and keep us posted on what direction end up going. I'm sure there will be plenty of excellent advice, tips, and pointers shot your direction. When it comes to guns, there is lots to absorb...lots of knowledge to gain. Enjoy your new hobby...and welcome to the forum.

JWF III
December 5, 2010, 11:30 AM
of high quality and that would appreciate with time.

see, im looking to do the opposite, buy firearms that are more rare, and collectors items vs. shooting frequently.

First or second generation Colt SAA? Old Winchesters from pre-1930? They aren't getting cheaper by any means, and they're absolutely a blast to take out and shoot every once in a while. And as long as it's not in NIB condition (with the original box), shooting a box of ammo and cleaning it a couple of times a year will do nothing to the value. Look for one up to 90 or 95% condition.

Wyman

ETA- Or if you like military weapons, you could go with an original sniper rifle. 03A4? M1C? M1D? But you'd have to get one heck of a deal to get an original for $2k. Also beware of fakes. Many are out there and they're worth no more than the cost of the parts.

22-rimfire
December 5, 2010, 03:43 PM
For me it's simple.... buy pre-1990 Colts if you like them.

Ala Dan
December 5, 2010, 03:47 PM
a NIB 5" Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special 1911 .45ACP~! ;) :D

CeeZar
December 5, 2010, 04:13 PM
I would lean to some older military guns. They are interesting, full of character, and many are relatively inexpensive.

Swiss K31 ~ $200 - $300 depending on condition and stock (beech or walnut)
Not extremely rare, but certainly unusual with the straight-pull bolt action, very well made and accurate. If you're lucky, you will get one with the issued soldier's name and address on a slip under the buttplate. You can get the original cleaning kit, sling, and bayonet too.

Mosin Nagant ~ $80 - $200
You have quite a few options here but I would lean to a pre-war manufacture with a hex reciever. These are generally better built than the ones built during the war and unlike the ones made after the war would likely have taken some shots in anger. The Finnish versions are considered the best shooters but come at quite a premium.

Mauser ~ $180 - $500+
There are a lot of options in Mausers as well. I would again lean towards a German one that likely saw action in WWII. For more history, look for one that was captured and re-arsenelled by the Russians. The Swedish versions are considered the finest shooters. Yugos and Turkish models are good examples as well and will come in quite a bit cheaper than the first two.

Lee Enfield #4 MkI (MkII if you can find one) ~ $250 - $350+
These vary greatly in condition and the nicer ones can get expensive. Generally considered the finest bolt action battle rifle of WWII.

M1 Garand ~ $900 - $1500
These also vary in condition and the nicer ones get expensive. This would cost as much as any other 3 or 4 gun on my list. But its a Garand!

Yugo SKS ~ $250
Also not rare, but inexpensive to buy and fun and cheap to shoot. A lot of folks who buy the Yugo SKS remove the bayonet and grenade launcher. But for your purposes, they would just make the gun more interesting. Prices on these have gone up quite a bit in the last few years. Now might be the time to buy.

CZ75/85 ~ $500 or less
You can get these new or used. Considered by many to be the finest 9mm ever made along with the Sig P226 and Browning Hi Power. Very accurate, very reliable, and all steel construction makes is a joy to shoot.

CZ-82 ~ $220
Try to get your hands on one of these. For a lot of people, like me, this gun just fits and points very naturally.

Sig P6/P225 ~ $350
Not terribly rare, but probably the cheapest way to get a Sig into your collection. Simply an outstanding pistol and unbeateable quality/price ratio. Also quite suited to ccw if you choose.

I don't know much about revolvers, but have been considering a single-action conversion like an Uberti 1875 Army. These can be had for under $500.


Another way to go if you were more into shooting would be to get a decent AR and a decent 1911. There are a LOT of good guns out there. Smith & Wesson make fine examples of both that could be had for under $2000 total.

IBEWBULL
December 17, 2010, 02:20 PM
So , what did you finally end up obtaining?
I didn't read all the post here but am wondering.
Sometimes opportunity is the seed for a good investment.
Folks have their taste change , sometimes because of need or just want.
I went the rout of the Glocks AKs and other tools. Now i am more niterested in more of an art quality of steel and wood.
I regret some of the Browning High Powers I had and are gone now. As well a Python which I never shot and a Trap door Springfield with bayonet and frog.
The Colt 1911 and 1911A1s which passed through my hands.
Some of my attemped and failed sales over the years were my Mitchel Arms Stainless Luger, Winchester NRA Commeritive set rifle and musket. The deals fell through and I am glad I still have these.
The best way for me to keep from making a mistake and dumping some guns back on the market has been to give them to those who will eventually inherit them as a gift.
They are still in the safe since some of the kids don't have homes of their own yet.
They have on occasion used them for colateral for a loan from me and the wife.
That worked well and I did get paid back promptly.
Well I got lost in the blog and hope you did not.

rogertc1
December 17, 2010, 06:33 PM
I have over $100k ***

Baba Louie
December 17, 2010, 08:54 PM
I have over $100k WTFBut if you knew then what you know now and ony had $2k in your hand to start over... what direction would you go and what specifically would you buy first?

If t'were me, I'd begin w/ .22s. K22, Colt Woodsman or Diamondback, M1922-M2 or Winchester 52. Shoot a lot, or shoot a little; clean, fondle and admire, good for young or old, cheap to feed, fun.

Since you've got shotguns covered, I'd make sure to have a good hunting rifle around as well. Win 70 pre 64 or their Sears and Roebuck Ted Williams equivalent in .30-06 or .270.

Pick an interest to direct your collection, i.e., mil-surps, cowboy, civil war, hunting, colts, winchesters, mausers, EBRs, long-guns, handguns, LEO guns, etc.

Maybe collect something they aren't making anymore that wears a name brand, like Colt DA wheelguns? Or prelock N-frames? Or Lugers?

Here's some free unsolicited advice about collecting... keep it sparse but full of quality. (weed out and discard crap from the getgo) Learn and know how to work on (assemble/disassemble at least) each piece in your collection. Know the history and value. Find a kid or three and pass that knowledge and love on during your collecting years.

Ala Dan
December 18, 2010, 08:29 AM
FYI,

$2,000 can easily be spent on just one firearm; so I probably would
choose a "high end" 1911 from one of the custom manufactuer's~!:cool:

content
December 18, 2010, 10:10 AM
Hello friends and neighbors // It sounds like you have the shotguns covered.

If it were me I'd look for the best bargins at my local pawn shops for classics like the:

Marlin 39/ 39A
Mauser C96 7.63
S&W, Colt Revolvers ,the older the better(sometimes)

For more expensive purchases I research prices from previous years to be certain the firearm is gaining value. If this is not possible I check gunbroker or other sites on my cell.

Searching out small gun/pawn shops in my travels is fun for me. You really never know what going to pop up in the next town/city.

I also pick up older .22 rifles anytime the price is good.

Let us know which way you go.

jfh
December 18, 2010, 11:11 AM
As others have said, 2k is not enough. And, the recommendations don't necessarily provide a "base" for the collection--unless you are looking to rapidly expand that collection.

Why not stay, for now, with your Belgian shotguns, and fill out the gauges to all of them? Then, move on to a focussed acquisition--say, some of the guns hso referenced?

You need to have a bit more experience with firearms, I think, to know what you want to do--and not direction from strangers imposing their own wish lists and desires on you.

Get the shotguns sorted out, then pick another area--say handguns, and specifically 1911s as an example....

But plan on spending more than 2K a year if you do this--and start with a shooter to use and to gain shooting experience with.

Jim H.

orionengnr
December 18, 2010, 11:36 PM
Ruger MK2 Under $150 used

Yeah, if you find one, buy ten. Keep one, I'll take the other nine :)

You are getting some good advice, and some really bad advice here. It is up to you to discern which is which.

rogertc1
December 18, 2010, 11:59 PM
I'd go for numbers. New GunsA RIA 1911 base model from Centerfire is under $400. Mill surplus is best bought when you can see them. A Marlin M60 under $200. Base model Uberti 1873 Cattleman is around $300. Rossi .357 $350. snub nose. Mossberg 12GA $200. Hold the rest for ammo and gear. Or buy a Kel Tec 3AT $250

chihuahuatn
December 19, 2010, 01:57 AM
Mossberg shotgun ~350
AK (SAR-WASR) or AR-15 ~450-900
Glock or M&P or XD series~450
Ruger LCP~300

~1550 to 2,000 to 2200

Got are your bases covered......

vaupet
December 19, 2010, 06:07 AM
If you want to collect guns, i'm with Ceezar, go for milsurps.

If you want to take up target shooting, start with .22lr, bolt action savage or CZ or even an Anschutz "annie for friends" and a mark II or buckmark pistol

As an american you could go the cowboy approuch, levers and wheels. To start I would say Marlin 39 and ruger single six.

You're collection of shotguns won't do you any good at the range except for the 12 gauges for clay pigeon shooting.

My collection started as follows:
Marlin 336 (30-30) first contact
Marlin 39: same feeling but able to burn more ammo cheaper and with less noice
Hämmerli 280 (used): target pistol "olympic" style to learn how to shoor a pistol
Sig mosquito, to get service pistol feeling
Anschutz 64 (used) single shot 22lr, to learn proper rifle technique.
USP 9 mm (used)

At this point I spend about 2500 €.

But beware, it can be adictive. We are now 2 years after I started and I own 20 fire-arms, spend over 15K. (yesterday I spend 2400€ on a schmidt and bender scope) Don't underestimate the money for range fees, ammo, vault('s), scopes or sights, carry cases, hearing protection, glasses,not to mention reloading equipment...

Have fun

Peter

ArmedLiberal
December 19, 2010, 11:14 AM
My first thought is to buy a full case of 20 Mosin Nagants. Tuck them away for 20 years and they will at lest triple in value once all the Russian/Eastern Europe warehouses are emptied out. Except maybe by then there will be about two hundred million Mosins circulating in the US and you'll just break even trying to sell them as collector's pieces.

You might be asking the wrong group of people. I notice that most of the answers here are from folks who can't really imagine buying a gun that they would never use.

If you are really into serious collecting and making some money off of your guns you might be some tens of thousands short on your budget. Guns that you can buy in your price range are more likely to just hold their value rather than making you rich in a few years.

You might want to think about getting into shooting and hunting. The joy you and your loved ones will get out of your guns will far out weigh what you might make in accumulating rare and valuable guns.

A.Fischer
December 19, 2010, 12:54 PM
If it's a classic collection you are going for, I'd try to add a couple S&W revolvers. Something like a 27 and a 29.

wow6599
December 19, 2010, 12:58 PM
If it were me - a S&W M&P in 9mm ($500), Springfield Mil-Spec 1911 ($600) Ruger Mini-14 in .223 ($650) and a Savage MKII .22lr ($225). Just under $2000.

Or you could change up one of the handguns and the Mini-14 and go with a S&W or Ruger .357 and a Marlin 1894 in .357 for about the same price.

J-Bar
December 19, 2010, 02:45 PM
I read the original post some time ago, and have been thinking seriously about it. I confess I am not able to put myself in the frame of mind of the person asking the question.

I don't think guns in general are very good investments where financial appreciation is concerned. Most of us can sell our guns for about what we paid for them, but there are not many guns that appreciate as rapidly as a sound stock and bond portfolio. (Yes I know about the recent instability, but consider a 20-30 year period.) The POS Harrington and Richardson 9-shot revolver that my grandfather used to shoot rats at the city dump when I was a kid will still bring the $50 he paid for it, but its presence in my "collection" is priceless because of the sentiment and memories attached to it. We pay money for the privilege of becoming a gun's caretaker, before passing it on to a loved one.

I recommend not listening to anyone's recommendation. Invest your $2000 in a savings account or short-term CD until you spot a gun that makes your heart race; one that brings you joy when you look at it in your safe; one that makes you look forward to shooting. It doesn't matter what turns any of the rest of us on...your gun collection is about what interests YOU!

neededausername
December 19, 2010, 04:15 PM
How about a nice Colt Python?

goon
December 19, 2010, 04:37 PM
For collector's guns you can afford, I'd look into C&R's. There are some that are more rare than others - do some homework and buy them now while they're less expensive.
For the most part, I'm also one of those guys who won't buy something just to collect it. At the very least, I'd also second the suggestion for a .22LR rifle - probably a CZ-452. You can afford to shoot more than three times a year that way.

Curator
December 19, 2010, 05:27 PM
An M1A, 1911 .45, and a Remington 870 12 gauge

Bentonville
December 19, 2010, 05:40 PM
I agree with those who suggested historical arms. When I first started I got an M1 Carbine that was purchased from the DCM back in the 1960s. It has a flip peep sight, original magazine release button and the original safety. I will never get rid of my WW2 arms (unless times get really bad financially). I also have a 1943 all-correct Springfield M1 and a 1942 Colt 1911A1 with all correct parts. The M1 has seen a lot of use and handling but the other two are very nice. The fun of collecting something in the nature of WW2 arms is they are legal to own, they are shootable (except for my 1942 Colt. I wouldn't want to scratch it an any way because of it's condition and value.) and you can learn about the history of the arms and how they were used to win the amazing victories in two theaters of conflict.
There are still many men out there who will gladly talk about using their weapons in battle. I have interviewed a lot of veterans who enjoyed talking about their experiences, both in WW2 and Korea. A couple of guys used the M1 carbine in Viet Nam. Plus, you get to learn about cleaning, caring for, and maintaining these basic arms. These weapons also led me to an interest in WW2 knives and bayonets as well. They are almost as fun to collect as the firearms, imo.
This knowledge of operation, cleaning, and maintaining will prepare you for any gun you may own in the future. Well, this is all just my opinion. If I hadn't gotten interested in the Carbine to start with, I wouldn't have gotten interested in talking to vets and to reading about the War. I am better for knowing those men and for learning about the history of my nation in a time when there didn't seem to be any gray area between good and evil.

Erik M
December 19, 2010, 06:02 PM
A basic AR15 from a reputable manufacturer (I prefer Doublestar) $700
A Mossberg/Remington 12 gauge shotgun $300
A Glock 19 for a range & nightstand gun $450
A .38 special of any flavor for a range gun / plinker $350

Remainder of cash spent on ammo.


If you are looking to spend cash on an hierloom class weapon you could look at the Colt SAA, Pyton, or Diamondback among a plethora of other wonderful creations. Personally I like the early Smiths and Ruger wheel guns, which are what I have invested in.

jon86
December 19, 2010, 06:11 PM
If I had $2000 to spend on a gun collection and already had a few shotguns, like the OP does, I'd buy:
1. A pocket revolver: S&W 442/642/638/438/ruger LCR.
2. A glock 19/23/26/27 for CCW.
3. That leaves you with about $1000 more. BUY AMMO. You'll need to learn to shoot your new handguns, as well as enjoy those shotguns.

RoboDuck
December 19, 2010, 09:34 PM
Browning auto 5
Remington nylon 66
Colt Python

Big Bill
December 19, 2010, 10:58 PM
I'd buy a Springfield Armory Loaded M1A.

http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?model=14

Cards81fan
December 19, 2010, 11:14 PM
All the way up to $2000? Definitely this:

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/206242000/206242330/pix057006918.jpg

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=206242330


Things like 1911, Hi Powers, etc... that are still out there in higher volumes would wait. The older Browning shotguns would be a close second to Colt wheelguns.

FIVETWOSEVEN
December 19, 2010, 11:33 PM
Desert Eagle .50AE, or a Heckler und Koch Mark 23. Gotta impress those at the range somehow!

S. Hill
December 20, 2010, 12:02 PM
I agree with most of the posters that $2000 isn't enough to start a collection of "collectable" firearms. So why don't we consider "classic" firearms instead? That might fit within the budgetary constraints. He already has the shotguns, so....

Rifle - Pre '64 Win. in .270 or 30-06. This will cost ~$1200.
Pistol - Older S&W or Colt revolver in .357 Mag. This will cost ~$500
Rimfire Rifle - Marlin, Winchester, or Browning lever action. This will cost ~$300

Each of these will require a considerable amount of shopping to get a quality firearm at this price. By the time he's done, the OP will have both an education, and the start of a very nice collection.

None of the guns are so special that he can't take them out and shoot them or hunt with them. With normal care and use they will all outlast him, and keep their value.

Re-read the OP's comments further down in the thread, and since he doesn't want to shoot them, I would change my suggestions. I would favor handguns, since he wants to display them. Pick one that you find interesting and has been around for awhile. Lugers, 1911s, Browning Hi-Powers, S&W revolvers..... Any of these will have enough depth to keep you interested for the rest of your lifetime. And they will all look great in a display case in your game room.

HGUNHNTR
December 20, 2010, 01:24 PM
$750 on guns, $1250 on ammunition.

Dokkalfar
December 20, 2010, 01:31 PM
If all that was specifically for the gun, I'd likely go with something from Barrett, likely the REC7.

Also, Wilson Combat has some really nice stuff if you can find something for that low :)

biohazurd
January 19, 2011, 01:11 AM
Quality 1911

Mossberg 500

Ak-47.

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