Frustraited with holster companies


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Dimis
December 8, 2010, 09:44 PM
I have a Taurus PT1911B-1 with a light rail and a Streamlight TLR-2s mounted on the rail

I have found three companies that manufacture light mounted holsters for the 1911

Tucker Gun Leather (site now doesnt have model any longer)
Raven Concealment (Does Not Fit Taurus Models!!!)
and
Side Armor (again Does Not Fit Taurus Models!!!)

I shot an email to raven as they say they do custom stuff but pfft after a few weeks of waiting i guess ill never see one back (even tho the website specificaly states not to call but to email)

Tucker had light bearing holsters but now the page is gone but they did list the Taurus and the TLR in the lineup

so what exactly is so different about the taurus 1911s rail compaired to others?

why cant i find a "REAL" holster for this gun without going generic uncle mikes or UTGs garbage

anyone able to point out someone else that makes a holster for the Taurus with the light attatched?

and no having the light on the holster is useless im not gonna ask the badguy to wait while i attatch the light i want it on the gun

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ClickClickD'oh
December 8, 2010, 09:52 PM
Here you go. They have 1911/TL2 on the list.

http://www.blade-tech.com/Tactical-Light-Holster-w-Paddle-pr-967.html

Dimis
December 8, 2010, 09:57 PM
But will it fit a Taurus 1911?

All the others specificly excluded taurus for some reason

orionengnr
December 8, 2010, 10:52 PM
Contact Nate at
www.ubgholsters.com.

David E
December 9, 2010, 12:37 AM
They don't sell them because not enough people want a holster for them.

Dimis
December 9, 2010, 12:59 AM
They don't sell them because not enough people want a holster for them.

I believe this to be an assumption not fact

they make plenty of holsters for other brands (even lesser known brands) of railed 1911s with lights attatched

I would still like to know what exactly is different about the taurus that makes it not fit any of the other holsters

And thank you Orion for the link but unfortunatly I forgot to mention in my ranting that I would prefer a Kydex holster

Dimis
December 9, 2010, 01:03 AM
Just got word back from tucker and they discontinued the entire line of light holsters

bladetech also came back with a no go because the rail is a different dimension (I still cant see how)

Seriously anyone wanna make about $250

I just want a simple Kydex Hip Draw Holster for a not so rare gun with a light mounted

Im about to just give up sell my 1911 and get a glock EVERYONE makes glock stuff:fire::banghead::fire:

David E
December 9, 2010, 01:12 AM
I believe this to be an assumption not fact

Believe what you will, but the fact that you can't find this set-up backs up my assertion.

A properly made kydex holster is molded precisely to the gun. This is a double-edged sword as "close" doesn't cut it like it does with leather.

There are a boat load of different rail specs out there. The Taurus is one of them and their other specs are on the "large" side as well.

The Taurus line is mostly "value based." What this means is, most people that buy one won't be buying a top of the line kydex holster. No, nylon is good enough for many.

The lights are another things. I have 4 and they keep coming out with NEW ones.....so what works for this gun with this light won't work with a different light attached.

Light holsters are a total PIA to make, which is no small thing. I'd charge you $250, but I'd have to buy a Taurus and then have you send me the light and then take all day to make a one-of-a-kind holster. Suddenly, $250 isn't enough!

Good luck with your search.

Dimis
December 9, 2010, 01:36 AM
how bout this then since my value gun isnt deserving of a high end holster i dare you to find me any hard plastic (nylon kydex play-dough thats been oven baked) holster for the gun

its not that they arent popular its that holster manufacturers are a bit... well gun snobs

my previous statement toward glock was very accurate blade-tech offers EVERY concievabale combo for light mounted glocks

Same for the M&P line from Raven

yeah rail specs vary I got that but seriously if you can form a plastic holster for a colt with a rail or a springfield with a rail you surely could do it for taurus too

but then again i guess your right my cheap pos taurus is too lowly to have good gear...

even if it does routinly outshoot higher quality 1911s... all without a jam

stupid taurus dont they know to make it more expencive and work less to be a real gun

9mmepiphany
December 9, 2010, 02:27 AM
I can understand your frustration...I went through it is the early 80s when I tried to find a affordable holster for my Star PD.

Part of the problem is that you selected a gun whose dimensions differ more than a bit from most 1911s and then you want it to accommodate a weapon mounted light also. It is something I have learned to take into consideration when making weapon selections that I plan to carry.

It isn't just a matter of tweaking an existing design a bit. A custom maker willing to make a one-off holster for you would need a gun to form Kydex around. Very few holster makers are going to want to buy a gun they might not otherwise have a use for just for that one use...even fewer holster makers have a FFL that would allow them to recieve your gun to use for that purpose.

I'm thinking your best bet would be to find a local kydex bender, who you could take your gun to for a fitting...that is what we used to do for custom leather

David E
December 9, 2010, 03:01 AM
Ok, I'm convinced.

Obviously, there is a vast, heretofore unrecognized, unfilled, unsatisfied demand for kydex holsters for the Taurus 1911 with a Streamnlight TLR-2 attached.

My suggestion to the OP is to learn how to make kydex holsters (since apparently any schmuck with a heatgun can do it...:rolleyes:) and fill this overwhelming demand.

You stand to make a LOT of money! I predict you can make one's, maybe even ten's of dollars.....


.

KodiakBeer
December 9, 2010, 03:03 AM
Kydex is just plastic, so buy one for a different 1911 and file to fit.

David E
December 9, 2010, 03:11 AM
Kydex is just plastic, so buy one for a different 1911 and file to fit.

Good luck with that.........

ArchAngelCD
December 9, 2010, 04:42 AM
IMO there are plenty of light holsters for guns other than the 1911 because LEO's use them. In the LEO community very few departments are carrying 1911's so the need to a light holster is also very small.

bigfatdave
December 9, 2010, 08:52 AM
Take your hardware to a local Kydex guy and have one made up, I just did that for two oddball guns with SharkTac, they go to gunshows and make pretty much whatever you want on the spot.

This is one of the reasons I look at holsters BEFORE buying a gun for carry, by the way.

Or learn to mold Kydex yourself and modify something by HEATING it, not filing on it.
KB, you really don't have much experience with Kydex, do you?

*Klutch*
December 9, 2010, 09:25 AM
I can make you one but I need your gun and light. If you don't mind shipping both ways for the gun, it will definitely cost less than $250. I make holsters for OWB and IWB from Kydex but I just don't have a Taurus 1911 with rail and I only have a TLR-1s which is different from yours. Here's a pic of what they look like.
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq188/klutch321/Shadow%20Company%20Holsters/DSCF3639.jpg http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq188/klutch321/Shadow%20Company%20Holsters/DSCF3644.jpg

Zundfolge
December 9, 2010, 12:23 PM
The Taurus line is mostly "value based." What this means is, most people that buy one won't be buying a top of the line kydex holster. No, nylon is good enough for many.
Maybe, but the more likely explanation is that the Taurus 1911 is new on the market and there just aren't that many folk out there looking for any holster for one yet (let alone one with a mounted light).

If you can find a local holster maker that would be your best bet ... drop off your piece and they use it for making the holster (you end up with the absolute best in custom holsters that way).

If there is another kydex holster out there for a railed 1911 w/light I'm not sure why you couldn't use a heat gun to soften it up and then use your Taurus to reshape the holster (if you go this route make sure you do some research on molding kydex).

And finally you can always buy kydex and fasteners (http://www.knifekits.com/vcom/index.php?cPath=41) and a heat gun and make your own ... there are several guys here on the forum that make their own kydex holsters who could give you a ton of pointers. For example here's a build thread by TheWarhammer (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=544461) of a supertuck style hybrid holster he built. Here's another thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=530166) on making your own Kydex holster.

KodiakBeer
December 9, 2010, 01:24 PM
KB, you really don't have much experience with Kydex, do you?

No, I don't. I don't buy plastic guns or plastic stuff for my guns.

bigfatdave
December 9, 2010, 01:36 PM
No, I don't. I don't buy plastic guns or plastic stuff for my guns. Well that's an adorably cute attitude, but how about you don't give advice on how to re-shape stuff you've never worked with, then?

rskent
December 9, 2010, 07:18 PM
Speaking of giving advice without knowledge. Can you get one close to the right size, and fit it with a heat gun or hair dryer?
My daughterís hair dryer pulls more amps than a window air conditioner. Itís got to get hot enough to soften up a little kydex.
It may sound stupid, but could it work?
Just asking
Steve

*Klutch*
December 9, 2010, 07:27 PM
It can and does work but the problem is when you heat kydex it's natural tendency is to go flat and if you heat up the area too much or don't direct it properly you will ruin the holster and never get it back to where it was.

Varob
December 9, 2010, 08:56 PM
It looks like Klutch has the answer to your problem.

Zundfolge
December 9, 2010, 09:43 PM
I'm not a big fan of kydex, but I gotta admit that rig Klutch makes is actually good looking (probably because its based on a leather holster design :p ).

EVIL
December 9, 2010, 11:39 PM
how bout this then since my value gun isnt deserving of a high end holster i dare you to find me any hard plastic (nylon kydex play-dough thats been oven baked) holster for the gun

its not that they arent popular its that holster manufacturers are a bit... well gun snobs

my previous statement toward glock was very accurate blade-tech offers EVERY concievabale combo for light mounted glocks



I hardly think Glock holster makers (such as the reasonably priced blade tech) qualify as "gun snobs..." They are just trying to appeal to a proven market segment.

You should have bought an "inexpensive" GLOCK 21 SF w/milspec rail...less money than your "value" taurus 1911...seriously, do you expect a robust aftermarket for a $500 1911?:confused::neener: ...with a G21 you get out of the box accuracy & 6 more rds in the standard mag (and every holster manufacturor makes a holster for it...I have a bladetech for mine.)


This is one of the reasons I look at holsters BEFORE buying a gun for carry, by the way.


^^^^sage advice, I do this also...even though I make OWB leather holsters; I like to buy kydex holsters for competition and crossbreed IWB...

good luck in your search...I think a custom holster is in your future...;)

Dimis
December 10, 2010, 12:08 AM
Id like to start off by saying I was a bit hot headed yesterday
I do understand that the taurus is not as in demand as say a springfield with a rail or a kimber
but lets be honest molding plastic is molding plastic
no not everyone can do it but those that can should lean a bit more to doing so
I offered to pay for a custom job to blade tech ravens and tucker all three responded with a "suck it up buttercup" response

I hardly think Glock holster makers (such as the reasonably priced blade tech) qualify as "gun snobs..." They are just trying to appeal to a proven market segment.

You should have bought an "inexpensive" GLOCK 21 SF w/milspec rail...less money than your "value" taurus 1911...seriously, do you expect a robust aftermarket for a $500 1911? ...with a G21 you get out of the box accuracy & 6 more rds in the standard mag (and every holster manufacturor makes a holster for it...I have a bladetech for mine.)


I understand that the "tacticool" holsters are generaly aiming at tacticool guns like M&Ps Glocks and XDs but they offer 1911 holsters for various other manufacturers and with enough people buying them and finding they dont fit what does the company do?
well logicly they dont start offering holsters for taurus 1911 but instead place a warning that the holster doesnt work.
hmmm... if theres enough people to warn wouldnt you think there would be enough people to buy?

as for the G21 it is not less expensive than the taurus 1911
I paid $510 for the taurus and a new G21SF here is at minimum here $550+ yeah i understand its not that much more but it is MORE

secondly I didnt want a Glock I wanted a 1911

as for accuracy my taurus is pleanty accurate not saying glocks are not but Im happy with my taurus' groups

My frustraition is simply that "OTHER" railed 1911s that are no better quality or price point get the treatment but the taurus doesnt

If no one made holsters at all for railed 1911s thats one thing or if the manufacturer was the only one making them for there own products again understandable
but the frustraition of darn near ever other one getting something is a bit irritating

Dimis
December 10, 2010, 12:11 AM
Klutch thanks for the offer
Im going to give molding kydex a try
but if i fail ill give you a PM

*Klutch*
December 10, 2010, 12:26 AM
There is a bit more to it than just molding it, keep in mind that when you mold it, it will mold to whatever is there but now you have to get the gun and light out and there needs to be a relief for the light to fit in and come out. Also your retention will most likely be with the light and not work with the gun without the light.
you are going to have to obtain or craft some tools to mold it with could get a bit pricey.

David E
December 10, 2010, 01:31 AM
There is a bit more to it than just molding it...

No, there isn't!! Any schmuck with a heatgun can do it! I read it online, so it must be true!

(it ain't rocket science, but there are a few tricks)

sloman
December 10, 2010, 11:21 AM
Klutch's rig looks cool! I may just give him a try!

*Klutch*
December 10, 2010, 12:24 PM
Born out of necessity. I got tired of trying to find a good kydex holster that wasn't $75 or more so I sold my P229r and bought a bunch of "stuff" and went to work until I found a few models that work. So far I have 2 different models that are completely different in design and application. The first being the one you saw and the other for small 9mm/380/32 type pistols for appendix to 3:00 position. My holsters go for $40 shipped for the normal holster called the "KDP" and the other is $35 shipped called the 3 o'clock high. Also on a side note these are all handmade, I don't even use a bandsaw.
Here's that one:Kahr CW9
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq188/klutch321/Shadow%20Company%20Holsters/CopyofDSCF3569.jpg http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq188/klutch321/Shadow%20Company%20Holsters/CopyofDSCF3571.jpg
with a different clip style:KelTec P32
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq188/klutch321/Shadow%20Company%20Holsters/CopyofDSCF3582.jpg http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq188/klutch321/Shadow%20Company%20Holsters/CopyofDSCF3586.jpg

sloman
December 10, 2010, 05:19 PM
Just ordered a holster from KLUTCH! Can't wait!

bigfatdave
December 10, 2010, 09:29 PM
I don't even use a bandsawIf you don't mind sharing, how are you cutting, then?

Dimis
December 10, 2010, 09:42 PM
yeah it so hard almost no one can do it

sorry dave but your attitude is a bit much

sorry if molding wasnt the word everyone would use but either way im giving it a shot before i have to pay friggin FFL fees to ship my gun two ways

kydex isnt that expencive
the electric top heat it isnt that high either
rivets are cheap and my labor is free

compair this to the costs of having someone else do this is a bit rediculous
and even worse if i have to ship the gun twice

$250 was a fair price

bigfatdave
December 10, 2010, 09:50 PM
sorry dave but your attitude is a bit muchWhat the hell are you talking about?
And learn to spell, you are embarrassing gun owners the world over.

DasFriek
December 10, 2010, 11:49 PM
Id definitely talk to Jimmy at Kholster.com
His is a supertuck copy and he can make it close and you can finish off the molding yourself.
I have the same Kholster im about to fit to my 3rd gun. I dont have a heat gun, But a few seconds over the electric burner on my stove will soften it enough to remold it to what ever gun i want.
Plus its like $45 shipped.

I know not everyone can or wants or has the time but learning to make your own leather holsters is relaxing and satisfying hobby also.
I own 3 ccw guns but own 8 holsters so each can be used IWB and OWB and one even pocket carried. But its definitely not for everyone.

BTW ive done Kydex myself from knifekits.com and they have all kinds of clips and rivits and chicago screws you may need.
But i cut mine with a hacksaw, Even scissors will work if its thin enough.
Get a few cheap but good files tho, They help alot.

plateshooter
December 11, 2010, 08:12 AM
I have been making custom Kydex holsters for a few years now. I only make the holster to the customers gun. Everyone is built different, and I make the carry system to the customers wishes.

There is more to making a good holster than heating up some kydex, folding it over the gun, then cutting off the edges. After you make a few hundred, you get it pretty much figured out.

Maybe you can find someone local that will make it for you. That is what I would suggest. I would never make a holster for someone that "might" fit. My goal is to make the holster that doesn't end up in the box of holsters that a lot of us have. Best of luck in your search.

9mmepiphany
December 11, 2010, 05:05 PM
My goal is to make the holster that doesn't end up in the box of holsters that a lot of us have.
I believe the box/drawer of holsters is a rite of passage for serious gun carriers.

I think the internet has had the effect of making the box less overflowing, but body build and presentation angle seems to still do a pretty good job of filling it

EVIL
December 11, 2010, 11:48 PM
I know not everyone can or wants or has the time but learning to make your own leather holsters is relaxing and satisfying hobby also.
I own 3 ccw guns but own 8 holsters so each can be used IWB and OWB and one even pocket carried. But its definitely not for everyone.

BTW ive done Kydex myself from knifekits.com and they have all kinds of clips and rivits and chicago screws you may need.
But i cut mine with a hacksaw, Even scissors will work if its thin enough.
Get a few cheap but good files tho, They help alot.

DasFriek...this is the route I went too...I get a lot of satisfaction from carrying in my own craftsmanship.

I have ordered from knifekits too...a good source for a beginner as there are kydex tutorials on the site...

for the OP...if you start making your own holsters it will really pay off in the long run...just be prepared for some unsatisfactory franken holsters along the way....as you learn the tricks of the trade.:scrutiny: The key is to not give up and before you know it you will be giving them out as christmas gifts to your friends & relatives with guns...;)

Dimis
December 13, 2010, 02:01 AM
What the hell are you talking about?
And learn to spell, you are embarrassing gun owners the world over.

bigfatdave I was talking about David E's snarky comments of "anyone can do it"

and my spelling will have to continue to embarrass gun owners im too old to change or care about grammer/spelling nazis (this is a forum not a formal spelling championship) I figgure if your smart enough to spell better than me than your smart enough to figure out what i said

Dasfriek I have pleanty of tools and im good with my hands so im sure I can get a kydex holster together without too much trouble

I know leather is classier but I dont truthfuly want leather for this gun

Plateshooter I live in Delaware... the home of nothing.
the best I have for local anything is corn and chicken so a Kydex guy thats local is out of the question
I walk into most gun shops and confuse them instantly by asking about AR accessories its shocking how little they know around here

Ive been to knifekits.com and looked around at the products they have so Im really debating just making my own

Im pretty good with my hands and I like tinkering maybe in the end its for the best that I learn to do it anyway

On a plus note I was mistaken about Bladetech
the Emails I recieved were from Tucker Gun Leather Raven and SIDEARMOR... Bladetech responded with a possative maybe but it would most likely bump the price up a bit

a few more weeks till christmas so Ill hold off till then and make a decision

bigfatdave
December 13, 2010, 02:45 PM
bigfatdave I was talking about David E's snarky comments of "anyone can do it"

You know what, I was wrong ... sorry about that.
I might have been fed up with the endless redundant threads (which this is not one of, really) and some truly difficult to read crap postings. Not really an excuse, just too much general annoyance added to what appeared to be an attempted slam in return for polite conversation.

Firefox is an all-around better web browser and has built-in spell-check, that's the best helpful suggestion for that subject I can offer.

If you're going to make your own, I think the biggest challenge would be the cutting steps, I think a bandsaw is the method used by people with a full workshop.
Other than that, you'd need "chicago screws" and/or rivets, belt clips and/or loops, and a heat gun or heavy-duty hairdryer.
I've never made Kydex goodies from scratch, but I've modified a few pieces with the wife's hairdryer set to the highest setting, then gentle re-shaping with a light leather glove on the hand or using a wooden dowel.

Try dropping an EMail to CrossBreed and KHolster as well, they've both responded to me within hours in the past.

I can take and post some pictures of my rigs if you like, for something to imitate, I have an all-kydex rig for some mouseguns and a CZ52 as well as CrossBreed SuperTucks for 1911 and Walther PPS ... nothing with a light though.
If I were setting up for a holstered handgun with light, I'd still make the holster grab the ejection port/trigger-guard/pistol's shape, leaving it useful for the same gun without light or a smaller light if you change up in the future ... in fact the KT P32 holster I actually use was built with room for a laser I don't have/want, it works fine with the gap.

Seraph
December 13, 2010, 03:25 PM
Dimis, the real reason you don't see a lot of holster makers doing holsters for the Taurus PT1911 w/ rail is that there is no replica available from Ring's Blue Guns or ASP for that particular model. Moreover, a holster can't be created for it by using a replica of another railed 1911, because Taurus, for whatever reason, went with an oddball rail contour (their rail is, ostensibly, a Picatinny spec rail, but it hangs lower off the bottom of the dust cover than everyone else in the industry). Holsters made for this gun will pretty much have to be made off the gun itself, and not all holster makers are going to own one.

As has been suggested already, making a holster to work with a mounted tactical weapon light will make things even trickier. It really isn't simply a matter of forming the Kydex to the weapon and light. The shape of the holster has to make way for the insertion of the mounted light, which is generally a little wider than the host pistol, and then retain the whole unit. Study some photos of Kydex holsters made for mounted lights, versus photos of the unholstered pistol w/ mounted light, and you'll see that there's a whole lot of work involved. Honestly, you're going to find that getting geared up for a satisfactory DIY solution for your light mounted application is going to be costly. Pistol/holster snobbery COMPLETELY aside, it probably would be more economical for you to trade your Taurus in on another pistol that has a more common rail configuration. On the other hand, you could elect to make a holster for your Taurus w/o the light mounted, but then I suppose that would somewhat defeat your purpose for having the rail.

Dimis
December 14, 2010, 02:45 AM
... sorry about that.
no big deal I can understand the frustration

If you're going to make your own, I think the biggest challenge would be the cutting steps, I think a bandsaw is the method used by people with a full workshop.
Other than that, you'd need "chicago screws" and/or rivets, belt clips and/or loops, and a heat gun or heavy-duty hairdryer.

bandsaw... check
chicago screws... check (or I can order rivets from knife kits)
rivit tools... check
heatgun... check (also seen a toaster oven method which i also have a spare so... check)


their rail is, ostensibly, a Picatinny spec rail, but it hangs lower off the bottom of the dust cover than everyone else in the industry

THANK YOU SERAPH!!!!

thats the exact answer I needed in the first place.

my original question was what was SO much different about the taurus vs others

you could elect to make a holster for your Taurus w/o the light mounted, but then I suppose that would somewhat defeat your purpose for having the rail

thats pretty much the feeling on it
I have the taurus holster for the gun without a light attatched and it works great for when I dont need the light

problem is I prefer the light mounted because
A: Im used to the weight now
B: Why remove a useful part

I still believe Ill attempt a one off holster on my own
it will be a learning experience and if I fail... I fail wont be the first time wont be the last
Im too hardheaded to quit and too attatched to the gun now to trade it in (at least this early in the game)
other than the holster issue im very happy with how my taurus handles and shoots

next time tho I will seriously research before I purchase a gun for holster fitment etc.

unloved
December 14, 2010, 04:19 AM
I've got a lot of experience with building Kydex gear, and lemme tell ya, it ain't as easy as many people think it is. There's a lot more to it than just warmin' up some plastic and slappin' it onto a gun.

A few photos to establish my credentials:
http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv195/unloved138/Kydex/IMG_0547.jpg

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv195/unloved138/Kydex/IMG_0408.jpg

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv195/unloved138/Kydex/IMG_0248.jpg

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv195/unloved138/Kydex/IMG_0235.jpg

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv195/unloved138/Kydex/002-6.jpg

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv195/unloved138/Kydex/IMG_0344.jpg


I expect that the reason you can't easily find anyone who makes what you're looking for, Dimis, is that Ring's doesn't make Taurus 1911 Blue Guns. I'm kind of surprised that some of the bigger Kydex holster companies don't have Taurus guns on hand, but for small custom makers like me (and others who've posted here) it just isn't possible to buy an example of every gun that we think someone might one day want a holster for.

In order to build a holster, you've got to have the exact model gun, a gun that's exactly the same in all critical dimensions, or a very good facsimile. Throw in a weapon mounted light, and now you need someone who has access to that particular gun, and that particular light.

Seraph
December 14, 2010, 09:51 AM
I still believe Ill attempt a one off holster on my own
it will be a learning experience and if I fail... I fail wont be the first time wont be the last
Im too hardheaded to quit and too attatched to the gun now to trade it in (at least this early in the game)

Sounds like you have the determination to get it done.

David E
December 14, 2010, 03:14 PM
I was talking about David E's snarky comments of "anyone can do it"

Snarky? Heck, if you believe the comments online, it seems that anyone can do it, needing only the desire and a Bic lighter.

There is a vast difference between making a true functioning holster and bending something out of kydex that, by mere happenstance, can also hold a gun.

As I said, it's not rocket science, but there are a few tricks. Many of which have not yet been discovered by folks charging for their work.

I've inspected some holsters that have numerous flaws and shortcomings in both design and execution, but I read online about how "great" this or that brand is. I can only conclude they haven't yet handled or used a truly good holster to compare to.

I hope the OP keeps us posted on his progress, along with pics.

Dimis
December 15, 2010, 01:33 AM
David...
My apologies I don't doubt there is some level of skill and tricks to the trade but at the same time I felt as if you were attacking me because I was willing to at least try

I stated earlier that Christmas has depleted my funds so I wont get around to it till after the holidays but when I do get my opportunity I will post progress and pictures

any helpful hints are welcome also so that I may have less difficulty in my attempt

Oh and to please the other Dave I downloaded a spell checker for my browser lol

David E
December 15, 2010, 03:37 PM
I felt as if you were attacking me because I was willing to at least try

No, I wasn't attacking you, only trying to explain why there are no holstermakers pursuing the Taurus 1911, much less with a light attached. It just isn't worthwhile.

I commend you for wanting to try your hand at kydex bending, but I wanted to point out that some people, who have never done it (hey, just file it!) or did it extremely poorly, have posted about how easy it is.

I will tell you this: I've made several 1000 kydex holsters and I hate making them for a gun with a mounted light. To do it right takes awhile.

I suggest you try making a holster for the gun only first.

any helpful hints are welcome also so that I may have less difficulty in my attempt

Don't use less than .093 thick kydex. The thinner stuff is easier to work, but the resulting holster won't hold up for the long term. (I use .125 thick) Get a heat gun and forget about using the stove top heating elements and a Bic lighter. (I actually know the guy that used the lighter) Go slow, wear gloves and remember that kydex will always want to go flat, unless you prevent it. Oh, and if it bubbles, it's too hot!

There's a learning curve. It all depends what your time and frustration is worth.

If I had access to a Taurus, I'd make you one. The LGS has one for $650 and I fear I'd never make my money back on that one.

Best of luck!

David E
December 15, 2010, 07:45 PM
Pictures down!

sloman
December 29, 2010, 11:00 AM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j302/tomthepi/th_KLUTCHholster.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j302/tomthepi/?action=view&current=KLUTCHholster.jpg)

Above is the holster I just got in from KLUTCH. Very nice and snaps are very secure. He even "pre-curves" it so that it fits around the hip better. Super tight hold on the gun. I literally shook the gun (unloaded of course!) to try to get it to come out of the holster..no dice! I highly recommend his work!

*Klutch*
December 29, 2010, 11:10 AM
Thanks sloman, I would like to add that he is an awesome guy, waited very patiently a few extra days for the holster cause I was sick and he also prepaid me for it which is almost unheard of these days and not normally how I do it but it is appreciated.
Tom thanks again be safe and Happy New Year!

JTQ
December 29, 2010, 04:36 PM
9mmepiphany wrote,
I believe the box/drawer of holsters is a rite of passage for serious gun carriers.
I agree.

I think the internet has had the effect of making the box less overflowing, but body build and presentation angle seems to still do a pretty good job of filling it
Maybe not. If it weren't for the internet, most of us would never see most of the outstanding (and cool) holsters that are now available. We would go to the local gun store and buy the Galco/Fobus/Blackhawk off the rack and think we had the best holster available. Now with the 'net, not only can I see all the different models available, but I can actually order them.

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