Is your state ok hunting with a silencer?


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springwalk
December 11, 2010, 02:16 AM
Oregon is in the clear. At least nothing on the books against it. Whether or not the Police know the nonexistant law its a gamble I gather.

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garyhan
December 11, 2010, 03:19 AM
I hunt small game with silenced rimfires, and have encountered no grief in Oregon.

gary

mljdeckard
December 11, 2010, 05:35 AM
Utah is no. But they are fine for non-protected species, like coyotes.

ChristopherG
December 11, 2010, 08:00 AM
In Washington you can't shoot a suppressed weapon. Period. Do not get a tax stamp, do not pass go.

Bubbles
December 11, 2010, 08:57 AM
Legal in Pennsylvania, Virginia, and West Virginia.

thezoltar
December 11, 2010, 05:14 PM
"Utah is no. But they are fine for non-protected species, like coyotes."
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As I'm not familiar with Utah law on this, can you tell me where to find it?
Would it be in the hunting pamphlet you get when you buy a hunting license?

RhinoDefense
December 11, 2010, 05:34 PM
Current state of MI no suppressors.

Former states of AR and WI suppressors are allowed and allowed for hunting.

JohnD13
December 11, 2010, 06:02 PM
Definitely not legal in New York. But we don't need a license for a pointy stick yet.

PTK
December 11, 2010, 06:25 PM
Not legal in MT, as far as any wildlife officer could find for me. I asked quite a few, read everything I could, and they're simply not allowed to be used for hunting, or, by the letter of the law, DURING hunting season in certain areas, whether they're being used at a range or not. It's odd, and I've been working through a few channels to try to change these particular laws; I would hunt more often if I were allowed to save my hearing and still not wear plugs or muffs.

pitsmile
December 11, 2010, 06:37 PM
NO NJ - The state doesn't allow the sale of Airsoft guns...

41magsnub
December 11, 2010, 06:45 PM
PTK: I would hunt more often if I were allowed to save my hearing and still not wear plugs or muffs.

That's ok, you can just eat my deer! :neener:

Ironman
December 11, 2010, 06:57 PM
FL no for deer, not sure about nuisance animals like hogs and yotes....anyone know?

PTK
December 11, 2010, 07:04 PM
PTK:

That's ok, you can just eat my deer! :neener:
Darn right I will eat that deer you gave me! Hopefully next year I'll get a chance to go out again myself. Finally feeling up to it. :)

I'm sure you would love to be able to hunt with a silenced 30-06 or similar, though. Makes a world of difference.

Prince Yamato
December 11, 2010, 07:11 PM
I'm surprised hunting with silencers isn't encouraged. It's safer than hunting without. You can hear what's going on around you and you also protect your hearing.

41magsnub
December 11, 2010, 07:31 PM
Heck yeah, I'd get one or more of my hunting rifles threaded and a .30 cal suppressor in a heartbeat (one that took about 4 months waiting on a stamp) could I use them that way for hunting.

TheCol.U.S.M.C.
December 11, 2010, 08:36 PM
No in AZ which sucks because I just got a new can

wazari
December 11, 2010, 09:09 PM
Yes in SC. I hunt Coyotes with one.

JWF III
December 11, 2010, 09:24 PM
No go in GA. But FAs are perfectly legal. Explain that one.:banghead:

Wyman

MP-5 Hillbilly
December 12, 2010, 12:11 PM
The Great state of Tennessee allows hunting small game with a can. No-no on large game. I am assuming it would also be ok for groundhogs and coyote.

We also have a CLEO shall issue law. If you can legally purchase a firearm the sheriff SHALL ISSUE the signature on your form 4 within 15 days...

THAT is TOO COOL... JP in 10-E-C:neener:

jimmyraythomason
December 12, 2010, 12:34 PM
Using a silencer would sure make it easier to get away with spotlighting deer. Not legal in Alabama.

Coal Dragger
December 12, 2010, 02:08 PM
Legal in South Dakota, as far as I know on all game.

PTK
December 12, 2010, 02:10 PM
...and if you're spotlighting deer, you care about legality? That's a pretty lame argument, the same argument that got them on the 1934 NFA in the first place - poaching. Most poachers just use a .22lr with subsonic ammunition and no silencer, and no one catches them.

jimmyraythomason
December 12, 2010, 02:33 PM
That's a pretty lame argument, the same argument that got them on the 1934 NFA in the first place - poaching. You missed the entire point!Most poachers just use a .22lr with subsonic ammunition Maybe where you live. Here they use whatever they have when the opportunity arises.

41magsnub
December 12, 2010, 02:47 PM
Could you elaborate the point then? It looks to me as if you are saying this is a bad idea because it would enable poachers.

Coal Dragger
December 12, 2010, 03:06 PM
Mmmmmm....... sound suppressor for hunting elk at night. I can see a bunch of Pringle, SD residents taking advantage of this.

The Pringle Poacher's Association motto is "Night time's the right time!"

PTK
December 12, 2010, 03:42 PM
You missed the entire point!

Then please, tell me your point if it wasn't an argument that silencers increase poaching. :scrutiny:

jimmyraythomason
December 12, 2010, 03:46 PM
Then please, tell me your point if it wasn't an argument that silencers increase poaching.I said it made it easier to get away with (undetected) not that poaching would increase because of it. Not just at night but also on posted land where permission to hunt has been denied.

PTK
December 12, 2010, 04:12 PM
How does legalizing silencers specifically for hunting effect illegal activities in any way, shape or form?

jimmyraythomason
December 12, 2010, 04:20 PM
How does legalizing silencers specifically for hunting effect illegal activities in any way, shape or form?
Did I say anything like that? If I did please point it out.

hirundo82
December 13, 2010, 06:54 PM
Not allowed in Texas for game animals (http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/hunt/means/) (white-tailed deer, mule deer, desert bighorn sheep, pronghorn, gray squirrel, red or fox squirrel, javelina).

OK for legal non-game animals. A lot of people use them for night hunting of feral hogs.

Hani Pasha
December 14, 2010, 04:55 AM
I have a friend in NJ... according to him, not only are suppressors highly illegal, even under the NFA route, but hunting with a rifle in general is also illegal.

Three44s
December 14, 2010, 10:53 AM
Quote by ChristopherG:

"In Washington you can't shoot a suppressed weapon. Period. Do not get a tax stamp, do not pass go. "

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=423471


Not as far as I know ...... I have some number of friends with them.

While it's true that you are not allowed to shoot your suppressor in Washington ..... it's a gross misdemeanor if you get caught shooting it.

It takes a law enforcement officer witnessing the discharge of said supressed weapon ....

Hunting by extension of legally not being able to shoot it is out.

The buying and owning it requires Federal requirements and your local law enforcement official signing off on it.

Unless things have changed recently ..... that's how it is here in Washington State ......... muddled up ...... of course.

Three 44s

Ranb
December 14, 2010, 07:45 PM
In Washington you can't shoot a suppressed weapon. Period. Do not get a tax stamp, do not pass go.
BS on the last sentence (bolding mine). I have lots of tax stamps. I shoot the suppressed firearms when I travel out of state. I am also working to change the law banning their use.

Ranb

Marshall
December 14, 2010, 07:54 PM
Oklahoma...No

wgp
December 14, 2010, 08:22 PM
Kansas Dept of Wildlife and Parks says suppressors are prohibited, although they are hard-pressed to point out where in any of their regulations it says that.

bubba15301
December 15, 2010, 01:06 AM
bubbles - silencer are not legal to hunt with in pa

JEB
December 15, 2010, 02:21 AM
for some unknown reason, the state of Iowa would rather that i slowly lose my sense of hearing.

if they were legal, i would buy one or two in a heartbeat!

Loyalist Dave
December 15, 2010, 10:46 AM
The People's Republic of Maryland? Are you kidding? They "allow" silencers when used by "professional" marksmen who are hired to thin out the deer herds in "no hunting zones" when the rich folks get tired of thousands of dollars of damage being done to their landscaped yards, and the silencers are so them folks aren't disturbed for it's done at night with NVG scopes..., all so as not to 'offend' the suburbanite Socialists..., God forbid they allow bow hunting in those areas.

I said it made it easier to get away with (undetected) not that poaching would increase because of it. Not just at night but also on posted land where permission to hunt has been denied.


Actually poachers out here use bows and crossbows, so using a silencer wouldn't really increase anything. The cost alone for the stamp and the can would probably keep it out of the hands of most of our local poachers.

LD

Quiet
December 15, 2010, 10:48 AM
CA = No
NV = Yes

jimmyraythomason
December 15, 2010, 10:56 AM
Actually poachers out here use bows and crossbows,Ever shoot a bow or crossbow from inside a moving vehicle?

Sebastian the Ibis
December 15, 2010, 12:33 PM
Ever shoot a bow or crossbow from inside a moving vehicle?

No but I watched a movie where some guys shot arrows from a segway pulled by a couple horses, I think they called it a "chariot."

jimmyraythomason
December 15, 2010, 12:36 PM
I think they called it a "chariot." Yeah but it was the convertible model.

hounddog
December 19, 2010, 02:07 PM
In West Virginia it is legal. Finally got a game warden to accept that fact, but he was not happy with it.

springwalk
December 20, 2010, 02:52 PM
RanB, good luck on that as Washington is becoming more like *********** by the day. I see it here in Oregon too, but at least we still enjoy freedoms. I find the American culture odd in its paranoia of silencer use. I guess we can thank Hollywood and our dronish society that pays money to watch their perversion on the big screen. When I was stationed in Germany for the Army I found out many European countries encourage silencer use and folks there can get them right over the counter for cheap, say $30, without the governMENTAL nightmare we go through here in the Land of the "free". Of course most europeans dont get to enjoy real guns, mostly low powered airguns and maybe a 22 with the right permit, but still at least silencers arent viewed as sinister tools of assassins.

Loyalist Dave
December 20, 2010, 11:23 PM
Ever shoot a bow or crossbow from inside a moving vehicle?

Nope, ever hit a deer with a slug fired from a scoped shotgun from a moving vehicle? what's your hit ratio? How close do the deer have to be to the road? :evil:

See no rifles in any but 2 and a half western counties, so you don't have to be caught with anything but the rifle and you're toast. You get spotted shooting from a vehicle, you don't have to hit anything here, and you're losing the truck and the rifle.

If you want to poach, you need to go where the deer are..., the area bordering the no hunt areas..., and a shot will get you caught, especially at night. Swing a spotlight, and the local cops will be on the way. Then you have to go and get the deer after you put it down. (The cops will gladly eat the deer for you; or take it to a meat cutter who donates it to a homeless shelter.) We tend to be a bit more densely populated here than most people realize.

LD

GarrettJ
January 2, 2011, 10:47 PM
Utah is no. But they are fine for non-protected species, like coyotes.
I wrote to the state DNR asking about it 10 or 12 years ago. It is not addressed in the hunting proclamation, and nowhere in the state laws. And while the Big Game proclamation specifically prohibits the use of any firearm capable of full-auto fire, the Small Game proclamation is silent.

The response I received from the DNR was that it was legal to hunt big and small game in UT using a silencer, and that full-auto was legal for small game.

Ankeny
January 4, 2011, 08:45 PM
Wyoming - no. In fact, you can not even have one when in the "game fields".

Sniderman
January 4, 2011, 09:25 PM
NO supressors in Vermont, :(

Statewide, No how, no way. :fire:

atomchaser
January 4, 2011, 10:05 PM
bubbles - silencer are not legal to hunt with in pa

False. They are legal for hunting. It's not clear from the published regulations but I have seen copies of letters from the Game Commission written in response to individual queiries that state that they are legal.

Bubbles
January 5, 2011, 09:20 AM
False. They are legal for hunting. It's not clear from the published regulations but I have seen copies of letters from the Game Commission written in response to individual queiries that state that they are legal.
Yep, the regs are quite convoluted but it's legal. Two years ago I participated in a managed deer hunt on a military facility. The CO was cool with me using a suppressed rifle once I showed him my letter stating it was cool. I also have a letter from VA DNR stating it's legal since I wasn't sure how well the enforcement guys knew the law.

itsreese
January 5, 2011, 09:54 AM
I said it made it easier to get away with (undetected) not that poaching would increase because of it. Not just at night but also on posted land where permission to hunt has been denied.
@ jimmy ray, you said suppressors "make it easier to get away with poaching". i have suppressors and i disagree. i have a 5.56 supressor and to get it "hollywood" quiet you have to get subsonic. that makes a 55grain BB. it tumbles, floats and would probably not even kill a deer 7 times of 10. with a normal load your round will still give the supersonic crack, secrets out. they may not know where you are because of the supressor, but its easy to find you dragging the carcass out.

i agree with others, if you are going to poach a bow is much more convienent.

the arguement for hunting with a supressor needs to be 1-for hearing conservation. i know i dont hunt with plugs in my ears. i need to hear the slightest noise bambi makes, shes not always loud.

vwfool
January 8, 2011, 07:22 PM
Unfortunately, no they are not legal in Oklahoma for hunting. I think they should be legal. Since I moved here to OK 8 years ago, I have heard lots and lots of stories about people poaching deer, and I know a lot of people around here that own suppressors. I have never once heard of anyone around here poaching with a suppressor.

My wife's stepdad moved from his native country of England to Texas 4 or 5 years ago. I figured he would have pretty narrow views about guns, but he surprised me in a few ways. He did think it was a little odd that a handgun was part of my daily wardrobe; however, he doesn't think it is odd at all, now. He told me he thought it was stupid that we can't legally hunt with a suppressor or "muffler." He said where he grew up, hunting without one would be considered rude because it might disturb your neighbors. I was shocked. The only thing that shocked me more is how cheap a rimfire suppressor is over across the pond.

springwalk
January 8, 2011, 11:40 PM
I know Al Frankowitz's Minnesota is a NO on silencer ownership. I remember mentioning to an older guy working at Cabelas I owned silencers and he looked at me like he was about to rush to the phone and dial for the police like I was an assassin or professional poacher. I calmed him down and assured him they are legal and I was a resident of Oregon, not Minniesoda any longer:D. I still dont think he believed me in that they are legal.

alemonkey
January 9, 2011, 07:35 PM
Nebraska is. SBR's are also legal for hunting. That's one reason I'm building a 12.5" 6.8 SPC. It's going to be my new deerslayer. Eventually I'll get a can for it to help save my ears, too. I worry about the damage I've done to my ears while hunting. I really should start wearing some amplified earmuffs.

LemmyCaution
January 10, 2011, 01:39 PM
Possession of a suppressor in VT is a misdemeanor punishable by a $50 fine.

They are prohibited expressly to make poaching more difficult.

frankenstein406
January 10, 2011, 02:40 PM
I really want to get a supressor for my rifle. Hell it was hard enough to get a deer when baiting was legal. Now the only time I've seen them is kicking them up and I don't wanna wound them. If I could possibly get another shot that's more chances which is worth it in my book.

glock281
January 16, 2011, 07:02 PM
Good to go in Tennessee
But NO SBRs for hunting

mp510
January 18, 2011, 09:12 PM
Connecticut does not allow suppressors for hunting.

MD_Willington
January 20, 2011, 01:49 PM
WA State - Today - No.

We cannot even discharge a firearm with a suppressor attached, however there is a House Bill (HB1016) and a Senate Bill (SB5112) in the works to fix our current laws...

Hopefully they will fix it, seems like quite a few are in favor of fixing it.

MD_Willington
January 20, 2011, 01:51 PM
WA State - Today - No.

We cannot even discharge a firearm with a suppressor attached, however there is a House Bill (HB1016) and a Senate Bill (SB5112) in the works to fix our current laws...

Hopefully they will fix it, seems like quite a few are in favor of fixing it.

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