Budget handgun 24/7 any good?


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Kachok
December 11, 2010, 01:16 PM
I am looking for an quality handgun for a reasonable price, I tried the Sigma and after several bad experences and my friends blowing apart in his hands I decided it is time for somthing else. I know I like the Springfeild XD and Colt 1911s but they are a little out of my range at the moment, should I pick up a 24/7 or try to save up for an XD/1911?

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k4swb
December 11, 2010, 03:41 PM
I shot a friend's 24/7 OSS DS in .45ACP awhile back (probably less than a magazine full) and when I wanted to try another auto I purchased one. Absolutely the best choice in a mostly blind purchase I have ever done. I have 4 other .45s and the OSS is the most comfortable of them all. Accuracy is superb and reliability after about 1000 rounds is excellent. At $355.00 + transfer fees from Bud'sGuns, I feel like it was one of my best purchases ever.

Kachok
December 11, 2010, 04:40 PM
Anybody tried one in a 40 S&W? Nothing aginst the .45 but I feel that the 40 hits just as hard and has 2 to 3 more shots in the mag.

Darth AkSarBen
December 11, 2010, 07:26 PM
Check out my website (signature) sometime. Really nice pistol!! Don't worry about the extra shots. The .45 ACP more than makes up for the loss of capacity. A .40 might expand to .45 or more, but a .45 never shrinks to less than. 450 ".

rellascout
December 11, 2010, 07:34 PM
IF you are talking about a defense gun its not about caliber its about positive hits. If you shot 40 S&W better stick with it if you shoot 45 ACP better move that direction.

If it were me I would save my money and get a better gun. Taurus guns are very hit or miss. Some run great others do not. They do a decent job with other peoples base designs like their 92 and their 1911s but guns they designed and developed are not very good IMHO.

By spending $200 more you are really opening up the choices and the quality of the pistol you are getting IMHO. If I had stay under $400 I would look at used gun from people like Sig, S&W, Glock and CZ.

davidbee
December 11, 2010, 07:37 PM
please save some more money and buy a glock 21Sf or an XDM.
you will be sorry if you dont.

Mags
December 11, 2010, 07:40 PM
Had one in 40 recoil was so slow with factory loads it would stovepipe every round. I am not a Taurus hater I love the PT92 and PT1911 but from my experience the 24/7 is junk.

Kachok
December 11, 2010, 07:51 PM
Too true, but according to the FBIs shootout data the .40 S&W has a higher one shot stop % and drops the bad guys faster, mind you the differences were very slight when comparing premium bullets. The 40 packs 9mm speeds and near 45ACP bullet weights, the caliber of the bullet going in makes little difference. Anyone wanting proof of that should see the wounds my tiny little 6.5x55 makes on deer absolutly astonishing, bone fragment and liquified organs blown out the silver dollar sized exit wound. Kenetic energy, bullet mass and bullet construction make all the difference. Wound canals are usualy much wider then the expanded bullet itself especaly in high speed bullets like the 40 S&W/10mm. Combine 45 cal/bullet weight and 357 mag speed and you have the .454 which will quickly drop a mature brown bear or turn an attacker's vital organs into a gel like substance :)

gearhead
December 11, 2010, 07:54 PM
I've been very pleased with my 24/7 Pro Compact in .45. It fits my hand well, it conceals easily, carries 10 rounds of .4ACP, and has been 100% reliable since new. Trigger is decent, it's smooth but maybe a little long and mushy in DA. Nice crisp reset though.

Samson7
December 11, 2010, 07:57 PM
I have a 24/7 pro in .40. After a while the ribber grip started to tear so I took it off and textured the grip. Trigger is decent, accuracy is good (Not like my glock or m&p, but good). For the price, its hard to beat.

IBEWBULL
December 11, 2010, 08:12 PM
Well, $355 is a lot to pay for a transitional piece.
Add the tax background check now you are up to about $400, now a holster for another $50
When it comes time to move up you will loose a good $100 easy.
I would save up for what you want for $500 less if you put some time into looking for.
I am getting tired of gunbroker and the fishing for prices but found this one which pooks reasonable, then there is shipping and $20 for the dealer.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Springfield-Armory-1911-A-1-Mil-Spec-45-ACP.cfm?gun_id=100154540

Kachok
December 11, 2010, 08:26 PM
Well it is $315 here, no background fees just a regular sales tax, and I would not consider it if I thought I would want to trade out of it in a month. If that were the case I would no doubt save the extra $$$ and buy an XD which by the way is the most accurate semi auto I have ever shot. I would tell you the groups I shot but nobody would beleive me. Truth be told that kind of accuracy is not really needed in personal defence situations. The difference between a 7" group at 15 yards and a 2.5" group at 15 yards means a hill of beans at 7 feet where most shootouts happen. Reliability is everything in defence.

sltintexas
December 11, 2010, 09:40 PM
I am not a big taurus fan but i have heard good things about the 24/7.

gga357
December 16, 2010, 06:59 PM
Check out my website (signature) sometime. Really nice pistol!! Don't worry about the extra shots. The .45 ACP more than makes up for the loss of capacity. A .40 might expand to .45 or more, but a .45 never shrinks to less than. 450 ".
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Vern
Taurus PT 111 in 9mm and .45 ACP, both Stainless
http://Taurus45ACP.com personal web site with NRA-ILA feed, great links and some info and pictures

Can you detail the differences between the Pro and the OSS?

BP Hunter
December 16, 2010, 11:41 PM
Check out the Ruger SR40. It's less than $100 more than the taurus. The reviews have been good.

Jed Carter
December 17, 2010, 04:56 AM
The Sigma probably works so keep it until you find a "better' pistol like a Glock, SIG or FNH. Considering current prices, trade in value would be arround $125 max. Or you could Get a RIA 1911 for less than $400, it would be better than the Taurus. Taurus makes a good revolver IMO, but I have reservations about any of their pistols. It's your money, but I think you will be just as disapointed with a Taurus, as you are with your Sigma.

Nimble1
December 17, 2010, 08:52 AM
Bought a 27/7 9mm from a friend who only ran 30 rnds or so through it and claimed he couldn't hit anything with it. I have since put another 3 or 4 hundred rnds through it with no issues at all..nice gun and its now my bedside gun.

Benzene
December 18, 2010, 10:34 PM
If the .40S&W is the preferred caliber, then the KABOOM scenario should NOT be ignored, especially in reference to the Glock.

I think FEATURES and FUNCTIONALITY, not rabid attachment to name brand, should influence decisons. I recently bought the Taurus 24/7 Pro and I am completely satisfied with it - and so as several of my pals, some of whom are quite knowledgeable about firearms.

Cards81fan
December 18, 2010, 11:17 PM
My father has one in .45, and it's a great pistol. I have handled it at the range and in a word: comfortable.

The grips on it really make it easy to control and maintain a positive grip on the pistol.

CZ223
December 19, 2010, 10:08 AM
The Glock haters never miss a chance to take a shot even on a thread about Taurus, incredible. That issue has been resolved for years.

I do not own a 24/7 but I do own two PT1911s and they are great guns. I have been fondling their 92 clone recently and have been barely able to resist the urge. Taurus makes some very good guns. That said, I prefer the look and the feel of the Millenium pro over the 24/7.

dnlgao
December 19, 2010, 11:40 AM
I own a 247 pro 9mm. i absolutely love this thing. gonna hit about 1k rounds today as a matter of fact, 100% reliable. Trigger takes some getting used to, but its a fairly easy gun to shoot. i say go for it.

Benzene
December 19, 2010, 07:56 PM
CZ223, could you please clarify what "issue has been resolved for years". Thanks.

Nushif
December 19, 2010, 08:41 PM
That said, I prefer the look and the feel of the Millenium pro over the 24/7.

I would urge you to go that direction as well. the Millennium *PRO* series is a very, very decent set of guns. But make sure you don't get the normal Millenniums. I hear those had a pretty high lemon ration. 8)

weregunner
December 20, 2010, 03:50 AM
Okay, lemons the guy says, huh? No much anyway.

I can bring 106 typed pages of links from those who have the various 24/7 models and like them.

Right from the horse's mouth.
That and there are these recent links as well.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=29220.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=44010.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=44261.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=44646.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=44641.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=44590.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=44514.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=6667.0

While I do not own a 24/7 pistol I do own it's direct kin, the PT111 Mil Pro and the PT132 Mil Pro and find these very durable and reliable guns.

Yes, these are not perfect, but no design or model is. Yes, there are a few bad ones here and there, but no more so than for other brands and models.

As for the turn around times are getting shorter. I can bring that along if need be.

weregunner
December 20, 2010, 04:08 AM
Here's are 24/7 recent threads from here as well.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=534673
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=540511
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=526848
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=502885
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=500135

Those who've had 24/7 experience and ownership means more than from those who have not.

dsb1829
December 20, 2010, 10:45 AM
Taurus makes a good gun and at prices $325-350 there is no real competition. I owned a PT845 (basically a 24/7 with a hammer). Never had any failures to feed or fire it out of about 250rd. I traded it off though. I just couldn't get the gun to shoot well for me. I bought it for $320 out the door, price being the main reason for grabbing it. In retrospect, and considering you already have eyes for other guns, I would recommend saving a bit more and getting what you want.

I now have a Colt Government M80 and a Glock 19 to fill the void. The Colt is a better shooter in 45 ACP. The Glock is cheaper to feed and a better CCW option. It also ends up on target far better than the Taurus.

Warrior1
January 19, 2014, 01:54 AM
I've been very pleased with my 24/7 Pro Compact in .45. It fits my hand well, it conceals easily, carries 10 rounds of .4ACP, and has been 100% reliable since new. Trigger is decent, it's smooth but maybe a little long and mushy in DA. Nice crisp reset though.
I had the 24/7 Pro c .45 for years. Never ever had a problem. Eats everything you feed it.

Darth AkSarBen
January 19, 2014, 10:31 AM
I've shot the 24/7 PRO for a good long time. My everyday carry is a design so very close to the 24/7 PRO that is is like the kindred brother... I carry a Taurus Millennium PRO in .45 every day. Always shoots, never any problems, like the 24/7 PRO. Recently came into the yard (live in country) and there was a possum near our quonset shed. Got out and the Millennium PRO is not a target shooter but I killed the possum in quick order. No issues at all. I have shot on my own range many times and can verify that it neither jams nor does not fire when I pull the trigger. Accuracy is decent for a shorter barreled .45 like this. Weighs a bit less than my SIG SP200 in 9mm as well, which is an EXCELLENT shooter for accuracy!

Even SIG forums will have the occasional comment about one of their pistols not "worth a dam" but I really think you may find that in ALL makes and models of anything made in firearms. Don't discount a pistol by the very few that happen to crop up and post here and there. You really do NOT get the whole picture because of the one person that posted some negativity about a certain pistol/firearm there are probably 5,000 very satified shooters who never posted a single word... anywhere.

TennJed
January 19, 2014, 11:00 PM
Very underrated gun

jjones45
January 21, 2014, 01:42 PM
+1 on the ruger sr40. These are really good guns for the price and their customer service has a great track record if you need it. Maybe check out a walther ppx as well, it's getting pretty good reviews. Taurus makes some good guns but I think where they suffer at is quality control and customer service. Hit or miss is a direct result of quality control and I heard horror stories of people sending guns in for service. If you get a good Taurus it will be just as good as anything IMHO, but if you get a bad one be prepared for the worst. I have a Taurus revolver that's been great since day one by the way

JR47
January 21, 2014, 01:59 PM
Taurus has had a tale of woe very similar to that of S&W products. They, like S&W, went through a period of "new gun of the week", changing Models and options too fast to actually sort them out. Nobody ever seems to remember S&W in the 1970's and 80", when they were like that. Doesn't make it untrue, though, even to the fan-boys. They had problems with the barrels in the M&P series, fixed them, and went on with it. They had problems in the X-Frame revolvers, as well.

The ENTIRE industry has been hot-or-miss since the surge towards buying guns hit it's peak. Many times it's the buyers who are the issue, as they haven't a clue as to what they bought, and seem unable to read the Owner's Manuals. Ask Ruger about that with the SR series gun's introduction.

I have returned Colt, S&W, HK, and Sig pistols and revolvers for defects, but never had that problem in the 14 Taurus guns that I own. Some of them are from the era of Interarms importing.

moxie
January 21, 2014, 04:24 PM
I've shot one in .45acp at two different range sessions. At the first session, the gun worked OK, but had a very long trigger pull I really didn't care for. At the second range session, for some reason the gun started getting a variety of failures to feed and eject. Overall I was underwhelmed by that gun. Extra mags are hard to find and pricey, BTW.

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