Sniper’s skills in demand in Iraq


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Mark Tyson
December 24, 2003, 07:12 PM
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Sniper Sgt. Randall Davis peers down the holographic scope of the M-14 sniper rifle he used during operations in and around Samarra. Since mid December, Davis has been credited with eight confirmed kills and two “probables,” a count no soldier in the brigade has matched. — Alan Lessig / Military Times staff

December 23, 2003

Sniper’s skills in demand in Iraq

By Matthew Cox
Times Staff writer

SAMARRA, Iraq — The sun was sinking at the desert’s edge when Sgt. Randall Davis spotted his target, an armed Iraqi on a rooftop about 300 meters away.

“It was just getting dark. I saw a guy step in front of the light,” said the 25-year-old sniper.

Davis knew he was watching another sniper by the way the man stepped back into the shadows and crept along the roofline to spy down on a squad from his unit — B Company, 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment.

“Most people, when they get on a roof, will just move around and do what they’ve got to do,” he said in a recent interview here. “But this guy was moving slowly, trying to have smooth motions, trying to stay in the shadows.”

From his own rooftop position, Davis tracked him with his favorite weapon — an M-14 rifle equipped with a special optic sight that has crosshairs and a red aiming dot.

He didn’t have to wait long before the enemy sniper made his second mistake.

“He silhouetted his rifle from the waist up, trying to look over at the guys in the courtyard,” Davis said.

His M-14 spoke once.

“I hit him in the chest. He fell back. His rifle flew out of his hands,” Davis said. “You could see blood spatter on the wall behind where he was standing.”

Confirmed kill, his eighth — which includes seven enemies picked off in one day.

The deadly Dec. 18 encounter took place on the second night of Operation Ivy Blizzard, a joint combat operation aimed at clearing guerrillas from this city of 250,000, a nest of insurgent activity in the Sunni Triangle.

The operation is being carried out by the 5-20’s parent unit, Fort Lewis, Wash.-based 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division (SBCT), and 3rd Brigade, 4th Infantry Division, out of Fort Carson, Colo.

Snipers had attacked the 5-20 three days before the rooftop encounter.

“We had been engaged by snipers in here before, so I was hoping it was the same guy,” the Nashville, Tenn., native said. “It’s kind of a professional insult to get shot at by another sniper.”

Davis pulled out a pack of Marlboro Lights from the cargo pocket on his left leg and lit up a cigarette. He seems to take his job in stride, though he admits he’s been surprised at how busy he’s been since he arrived here two weeks ago.

New urban-warfare threat

Just five months before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Army began teaching urban sniper techniques as part of its five-week sniper course at Fort Benning, Ga.

Army leaders recognized the emerging threat and realized that traditional sniper techniques of lying prone and stalking prey in the open would not be enough in a world where terrorists hit and run from inside city buildings and busy streets.

Army Sniper School’s urban training course includes lessons on concealment, shooting positions and more. The Army also added more snipers to field units as part of its ongoing transformation to a more mobile and lethal force.

The leaders of the Stryker brigade — the new wheeled combat vehicle that is part of the transformation — say their snipers have proven ideal for limiting collateral damage and civilian casualties in this guerrilla-style fight.

“These guys are invaluable to our mission,” said B Company commander Capt. Damien Mason, describing how two-man sniper teams are deployed to provide precision fire against hit-and-run shooters or for counter-sniper work.

“[Enemy] snipers have been a problem in this town,” he said.

the enemy sniper Davis took out Dec. 18 was by no means his first kill here.

In the handful of skirmishes since mid December, Davis has been credited with eight confirmed kills and two “probables,” a count no soldier in the brigade has come close to matching.

Davis sees his job as vital to saving the lives of his own troops and takes no pleasure in the killing.

“That’s one of those things you accept when you take the job,” he said.

Davis has been working in two-man sniper teams for two years. He’s a spotter and mentor for his less-experienced sniper teammate, Spc. Chris Wilson. In many cases, the situation dictates who takes the shot.

“The roles switch up constantly between spotter and shooter,” Davis said.

Davis, though, has done most of the shooting since his unit began operating in Samarra on Dec. 14.

It wasn’t long after arriving that he found himself with an Iraqi in his sights and his finger on the trigger. One night, he and Davis were taking sporadic fire in their position when two Iraqis burst out of a mosque with AK-47 rifles.

“I shot the trail one,” he said, describing how the individual managed to crawl away, so he was listed as a probable kill. “He was hurt pretty bad.”

The next day, B Company walked into an ambush designed to draw them into the city. Before the day was over, Davis, armed with an M-4 carbine and an all-purpose optic, would be responsible for seven of the 11 enemy kills.

Most of the shots he took were while on the move at distances of 100 to 300 meters — longer than a football field, but certainly not the greatest distance from which he has hit his human target.

on Dec. 20, he killed another sniper with one shot from an XM107 .50 caliber sniper rifle at a distance of 750 meters.

Davis admits he never thought he’d be this busy before deploying to Iraq.

“This is the first time I have been in ever been in a combat situation,” he said. “Really it was just like targets down range – you just hit your target and acquire your next target. I thought I’d have a harder time shooting. Shooting someone is pretty unnatural.”

Early interest in sniper work

Davis is described by B Company 1st Sgt. Ray Hernandez as one of the best noncommissioned officers in the unit.

“He’s very professional — one of those NCOs where you tell him to do a job, and he does it,” said Hernandez, who is from El Paso, Texas.

Mason, the B Company commander, agreed.

“He will make things happen,” said the 29-year-old from Kihei, Hawaii. “He will get the mission done no matter what.”

Davis said the toughest part of the deployment is that it means a year away from his wife and six-year-old son.

Nevertheless, serving in a war zone is the opportunity to fulfill a dream he’s had since he was a kid.

“It’s one of those things I wanted to do since I was 12,” he said, describing how reading about famous snipers was a favorite pastime.

Legendary snipers became his role models. Snipers such as Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock, a Marine sniper in Vietnam with 98 confirmed kills, Sgt. 1st Class. Randy Shugart and Master Sgt. Gary Gordon, two Delta Force snipers, who died in Somalia in 1993 trying to rescue a downed crew of a MH-60 Black Hawk during the battle of Mogadishu.

“What those guys did was amazing,” he said.

Born with 20/10 vision, Davis said he has been shooting and hunting as long as he can remember. His favorite deer gun was a Remington Model 700 bolt-action rifle in .308 caliber — the civilian version of the Army’s M-24 sniper rifle.

“I kind of grew up with the rifle,” he said.

The interests of his youth made it easy for Davis to transition into a job he describes as a more humane way of fighting an enemy that can easily blend in with harmless civilians.

“I just thought it was a very smart way to fight a war — very lethal, very precise,” he said. “This way I know I’m not shooting civilians. Every shot you take, you know exactly where the bullet is going.”

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Steve in PA
December 24, 2003, 07:27 PM
Carlos would be very proud ;)

Pilgrim
December 24, 2003, 07:31 PM
I hope he has other identification and a "legend" should he be taken prisoner by the other side.

Pilgrim

Balog
December 24, 2003, 07:42 PM
First off; good for him.
Second off; Given the usual treatment of captured snipers by guerillas I'd hate to have my name and pic published like that.

Waitone
December 24, 2003, 08:24 PM
I was told by an uncle who was quite experience in affairs of the shadows that the war on terror will turn on intelligence, bribery, and snipers.

444
December 25, 2003, 12:06 AM
"The next day, B Company walked into an ambush designed to draw them into the city. Before the day was over, Davis, armed with an M-4 carbine and an all-purpose optic, would be responsible for seven of the 11 enemy kills."


:cool:

rayjay
December 25, 2003, 02:17 AM
He's good alright but Carlos will ALWAYS be the Man.;)

Goet
December 25, 2003, 04:30 AM
Born with 20/10 vision
Man, I'm jealous.

Dannyboy
December 25, 2003, 06:11 AM
What's the XM107?

Kentucky Rifle
December 25, 2003, 08:24 AM
My 20/10 vision is gone, my hands tremble ever so slightly (but WAY too much), and I'm too old and "creaky" to crawl across the jungle floor (or a roof top) now. But, I sure did enjoy this post. I surely did. I wonder though. The "other" sniper--the dead guy on the roof. He was obviously "trained". Now, who do you suppose did that?

Will

Nathaniel Firethorn
December 25, 2003, 08:33 AM
Davis pulled out a pack of Marlboro Lights from the cargo pocket on his left leg and lit up a cigarette. I thought snipers couldn't smoke. :confused:

- pdmoderator

The Reaper
December 25, 2003, 09:00 AM
The XM107 = Barrett M82A1M (http://www.snipercentral.com/m82.htm) The Army infantry site wasn't responding.

As for who trained the Iraqi snipers. Well they may have been trained by the US or many other countries. Keep in mind the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Iraq was at war with Iran for quite awhile and the US was supporting Iraq to some extent.

No doubt our guys have the skills to turn many situations that could be blood baths into an elimination of the bad guys. Good job.

Langenator
December 25, 2003, 09:27 AM
The company commander that they quote in that article and I were platoon leaders together in Germany. I feel better now that I know who's watching his back.

Come home safe man.

Cal4D4
December 25, 2003, 10:49 AM
Good hunting and be safe.

G21NE
December 25, 2003, 04:13 PM
How far out can one be accurate with a holosight? Is that standard equipment for "urban distances"?

Of corse, he is a trained sniper. I don't think I could be much use beyond 200 yards or so with one of those.

Skunkabilly
December 25, 2003, 04:24 PM
Glad he's on our side :cool:

El Tejon
December 25, 2003, 06:30 PM
God's Monkey House will have to be cleaned cage by cage.

Good hunting to them all.

HBK
December 25, 2003, 07:37 PM
I'm jealous too of the 20/10 vision. My vision sucks. :( This guy is the man, hope he comes home safe. :cool:

edited for: That is kinda weird that they published his picture and name... :uhoh:

Gopher
December 25, 2003, 08:32 PM
on Dec. 20, he killed another sniper with one shot from an XM107 .50 caliber sniper rifle at a distance of 750 meters.


At 750 meters with a .50 thats kinda like shooting a mouse at 10 yards with a BB gun isnt it? That is well with in the M-14 or M-24 range. Guess you use what you have handy.:D

longtom4570
December 25, 2003, 10:58 PM
Funny how popular snipers become when a war is on and when it's over they want to forget about or hide them. "we disavow all knowledge of snipers" Good shooting tho

*8*
December 26, 2003, 12:26 AM
Confirmed kill, his eighth — which includes seven enemies picked off in one day.

I'd give this guy a thumbs up. :)

8 confirmed kills and counting too.. ;)

Double Maduro
December 26, 2003, 01:12 AM
Rayjay,

Gunny Hathcock will always be remembered as one of the best but he no longer holds the record. That belongs to another Marine who's name escapes me but I will find and post.

I believe he lives in Washington State.

DM

artherd
December 26, 2003, 01:41 AM
Amazing he's using an EOtech, but I suppose at those ranges, he's pretty good with it, and good for him if it lets him get the BG first!

200-300yds is still pretty much point blank with a .308.

More of a DM type role than a classic 'sniper' (as the article states, this is the new breed of urban sniper/counter-sniper/Designated Marksman.)


The 750yd kill with an M82 is impressive though.

twoblink
December 26, 2003, 04:35 AM
Snipers are cool. The only way to get a sniper is with another sniper..

M14's rule..

I'm with PD, I thought snipers can't smoke??

El Tejon
December 26, 2003, 08:54 AM
two, no, you can get a sniper with the radio. Less collateral damage with a countersniper though.

Willard
December 26, 2003, 10:14 AM
Snipers on missions forward fo friendly lines don't smoke-the smell gives them away. Other than that.....


Chuck Mahwinny (sp?) had over 100 confirmed kills, like 108, and more probables than Gunny Hathcock.

dog3
December 26, 2003, 10:40 AM
Without getting too out of hand, it has to do with combining/splitting and recombining
chemicals retnal and opsin, and their product chemical rhodopsin. Rod cells, which
in effect are your night vision, are sensitive to rhodopsin. When a photon interacts
with rohodopsin, it splits it into it's component parts, retnal and opsin. And the
rod cell interperts that chemical reaction as light. retnal and opsin recombine at
a fixed rate. The "strength" of the ohodopsin has a lot to do with how much retnal
is available, and retnal is a product of Vitamin A (retinol), is derived from beta-carotene
blah blah blah.

It's commonly held that smokers hold less serum retinol (and therefore retnal) than
non-smokers. In fact, by a good amount. The common sense conclusion is that smoking
impacts the retnal uptake of beta-carotene. Makes sense. The good news should be
though, that drinkers show more serum retinol than non-drinkers. :) So, drink up!

Anyway, the real clue here is that if you want better night vision, eat more carrots.
Vitamin A really is key to night vision. That and training your eyes for the dark.

ElToro
December 26, 2003, 11:30 AM
His favorite deer gun was a Remington Model 700 bolt-action rifle in .308 caliber — the civilian version of the Army’s M-24 sniper rifle.
“I kind of grew up with the rifle,” he said.

mine too !.. now if could just get my hands on a Unertl....

i would posit that most guys entering the service these days have never touched a rifle until they get to basic. a generation or 2 or 3 ago every guy going into the fight had probly grown up hunting.

Teufelhunden
December 26, 2003, 11:39 AM
Snipers are cool. The only way to get a sniper is with another sniper..

...or your local RTO and some helpful artillery...Tejon's right though, counter snipers make winning hearts and minds easier since they don't blow them up along with everything else. :D

l Big fan of call-for-fire...
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-Teuf

Double Maduro
December 26, 2003, 01:00 PM
Willard,

Yep, that's who I was thinking of. Thanks.

DM

rayjay
December 26, 2003, 01:38 PM
Double Maduro,

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I wasn't stating that Carlos still held the record. I was commenting that Carlos will always be "tops" in the sniper profession. That USMC sniper you mentioned does indeed hold the new record and like you, his name escapes me too. I beleive a Canadian sniper was running a close second. You have to admit though that ol' White Feather had style :D .

Double Maduro
December 26, 2003, 02:23 PM
rayjay,

No offense was taken. I like gunny Hathcocks style and was surprised when I found out he didn't own the record anymore.

It is nice that snipers are finally getting some recognition.

DM

enfield
December 26, 2003, 10:07 PM
My 20/10 vision is gone, my hands tremble ever so slightly (but WAY too much), and I'm too old and "creaky" to crawl across the jungle floor (or a roof top) now. . . .

Me too; but I'll bet you're willing, like me, to try if necessary.

I don't forgive easily (it's a curse in polite society).

rayjay
December 26, 2003, 10:23 PM
It is nice that snipers are finally getting some recognition.

Amen brother.

"Cry havoc and release the dogs(snipers) of war." :D

Cold Steel
December 27, 2003, 01:34 AM
Good hunting!!!! Come home safe, bro.

Kentucky Rifle
December 27, 2003, 08:18 AM
Yes.
I'd try if necessary. And I'd be gone in a few days. But I'd have taken several "with me". Sometime after my first Spotter was killed, an A-6 crew went down close to Cambodia. I was inserted via "the penatrator". I found what I found and went a little crazy. Only one other person on this board knows what happened after that. She's a small, dark haired moderator. If you must know the rest, ask her in an e-mail. I don't want to talk about it.

Will

LynnMassGuy
December 27, 2003, 10:35 AM
Heroes.

Steve Smith
December 27, 2003, 10:53 AM
Let's give Shakespeare his due....


"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war!" is the proper phrase. Spoken by Marc Anthony in Julius Caesar.

Good on 'em...glad to know we're still taking them out. i know a couple of Vietnam snipers that rivaled Hathcock's record, but you never hear about them...ok by them.



BTW, there is a National Award fondly called the Dogs of War Trophy (the award depicts angry dogs being held back from attack). Bonus points go to anyone who knows who the "dogs of war" are and what they do to win the award.

ojibweindian
December 27, 2003, 12:00 PM
Aren't they the two Greek mythological beasts that guarded the entrance to Hades?

Balog
December 27, 2003, 12:45 PM
I believe the most confirmed kills record belongs to the Finn Simo Hayha with 542 in WWII. I don't know how many probables he had, tho.

Balog
December 27, 2003, 12:50 PM
Interestingly enough, in WWII nine of the top ten snipers were Russians. A three way tie exists for eleventh place between a Finn, a German, and a Russian. The top scorers for the US are
Adelbert Waldron III Vietnam U.S. Army 109
Charles B. Mawhinney Vietnam U.S.M.C 103
Eric R. England Vietnam U.S.M.C 98

The Reaper
December 27, 2003, 01:16 PM
National "Dogs of War" Trophy (http://www.odcmp.com/services/national_matches/nmtrophies/RT_national.htm)

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