8-shot .357 revolver


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Darth_guy101
December 17, 2010, 12:33 AM
I am looking at an 8-shot .357 (with 4" barrel) for recreational use, not competition or anything special. I have done some shopping and found the S&W 627 and the Taurus 608. Has anyone owned either of these revolvers? If so, please help...

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Action_Can_Do
December 17, 2010, 02:24 AM
I own the 608. It's wicked accurate and one of my favorite guns to shoot. It's held up pretty well (thousand rounds +) so far.

PT1911
December 17, 2010, 02:27 AM
I can also attest to the 608.

ArchAngelCD
December 17, 2010, 04:20 AM
I can tell you one thing, during the 2010 National Revolver Championship there were over 230 participants. (this is fact now) All but one was shooting a S&W revolver and the majority were S&W M627 PC revolvers. The only single none S&W revolver was a Ruger. (sorry, they didn't say which) When asked why they were all shooting S&W's they all said because they hold up and no other revolver will. (of course they shoot much more than we ever will) BTW, Jerry Miculek won again.

Buck Snort
December 17, 2010, 04:56 AM
My PC 627 has a really great trigger in DA and SA modes. :)

Dr.Who
December 17, 2010, 06:43 AM
I can attest to the 627 PC as well as the 625 PC. Both Great Guns

Chuck Perry
December 17, 2010, 07:33 AM
I have a 627 Pro Series and couldn't be happier with it.

Bill B.
December 17, 2010, 08:17 AM
I can attest to the 627 PC as well as the 625 PC. Both Great Guns

..........+1!

My 627 PC is one of the finest 357's I have ever had in my hand and there have been more than a few!

Stainz
December 17, 2010, 08:30 AM
My current 627 family:

http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/Stainz_2007/IMG_4550.jpg

The two PC627 UDR's came with marginally better triggers than did the 627 Pro. Of course, the only 4" 627 now available, as the PC627's available now are <3" or 5", is the 627 Pro. It is a bargain. The moonclip ready cylinder/eased ejector star entries are great - as-is the spring-loaded front sight, changed without tools. Mine had been on an 'accelerated wear' test since it's purchase new 5/08. The first UDR - 4/10 - and it's sibling - 10/10 - have slowed it's use somewhat. Oddly, they all have great balance - especially with 'real' grips in place of the UDR's OEM Eagle boots and the usual rubber Hogues from the 627 Pro. Both models load moonclipped ammo rapidly - as well as the 5 Star speedloader fed rounds. The latter doesn't 'care' about the case choices - just over all length (.38's or .357M's - not mixed!). Great revolvers - they will spoil you.

Stainz

lobo9er
December 17, 2010, 08:45 AM
http://ee.ar15.com/uploadImages/20090609/192443/Uploaded_633801495231846250_File.jpg

lobo9er
December 17, 2010, 08:48 AM
always wanted one of these. for backpacking, hiking or plinking an 8 shot 357 sounds grand idea.

Darth_guy101
December 17, 2010, 02:38 PM
Is the Taurus worth saving a couple hundred bucks? Or should I keep saving for the Smith?

Bill B.
December 17, 2010, 05:11 PM
Is the Taurus worth saving a couple hundred bucks? Or should I keep saving for the Smith?

I know nothing about the Taurus but the S&W 627 is worth saving for and I would not let the $200 keep me from one IMO.

dashootist
December 17, 2010, 07:57 PM
There was an Gun Mag article from a few years ago in which the 608 was compared against the 627. They said the 608 had a fatal failure after a few thousand rounds of hard use in IPSC competition because of a weakly designed cran/yoke. The bottom line is because of the yoke, the 608 ain't durable. This may not be an issue for 99.5% of the owners, because most people don't shoot their revolver that much.

I'm tempted by the 608 6" with compensator at Buds for $450. The equivalent 627PC gun is over a grand at Buds. That is huge difference in price. It buys a bud load of ammo.

Besides, Taurus don't use MIM or stupid lock. Only hand fitted parts!

Action_Can_Do
December 17, 2010, 11:46 PM
The price difference is huge. You could buy two 608s and have money left over for the price of the PC 627. I wouldn't buy the PC 627 just because I think it's incredibly ugly. :barf: Realistically, you'll probably like either gun.

Steve_NEPhila
December 18, 2010, 12:07 AM
The 627 Pro Series is a nice revolver. For just a little more you can go Performance Center. Here is a picture of my 327 M&P R8 in .347 Magnum with mounted eotech. This revolver is an absolute tack driver that can easily shoot magnums all day long. It weighs a bit less then the 627 because of the Scandium frame, but it is not light by any means... it runs about 34 ounces.

http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae315/snarewski/IMG_1703.jpg

http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae315/snarewski/IMG_1704.jpg

Darth_guy101
December 18, 2010, 12:48 AM
I have found the Taurus 608 for about $450 and the S&W 627 for about $775. Both with four inch barrels.

dallascj
December 18, 2010, 12:55 AM
I own a 608 and it is an excellent gun. Super stout, very accurate and well-built. IMO, listen to those who actually OWN the guns you are considering; opinions based on conjecture are worthless. For the record, Taurus does have a lock, and they do use MIM parts; their foundry provides a lot of the MIM parts used by other manufacturers.

Darth_guy101
December 18, 2010, 01:41 AM
That's the hard part, getting someone that has owned and fired both guns and can present an objective opinion on both guns.

dashootist
December 18, 2010, 11:48 AM
I found this article of one man's testing of both guns for IPSC.

http://www.gun-tests.com/performance/dec97IPSC.html

bullbarrel
December 18, 2010, 01:07 PM
Here's the thing with the Taurus 608. I have a very good one as they go but due to the ported barrel it loses quite a bit of power. I have the 4-inch barrel and it is less powerful than my S&W Model 60 with a 3-inch barrel.

gorenut
December 18, 2010, 05:15 PM
I've looked around and eventually based on people's experiences on various forums decided that the 627PC 5" is the one to go to but was very close to getting the 627 Pro 4"

Stainz
December 18, 2010, 05:19 PM
That Gun Tests review was over thirteen years ago! Interesting, however - and I never realized the entire revolver's mass is supported by the cylinder/yoke during speed reloads. Ah, that could be why my first 4" 625-8, bought new 9/02 and rebuilt 6/04 before being sold, fell apart! No matter - I slurped in a major way in competition - even SPC. Now it's for fun.

If I had to wait a few months - or sell/trade something else to aid with the funding, I'd still opt for a 627. That 627 Pro is a deal.

Stainz

Lobo_79
December 18, 2010, 05:47 PM
I own a PC Model 627. I've also shot the Taurus as well. I'm not a Taurus basher but between the two I'd pick the S&W. It's a personal preference thing. I think the PC model Smith's have superb triggers but you'd expect that for the price you pay for them.

Personally I'd ignore the arguments against integrated locks and MIM parts. I've seen a number of people get talked out of buying some great revolvers based simply a "manufactured" fear of integrated locks.
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz154/Lobo_79/Smith_Wesson/L1000929.jpg

lobo9er
December 18, 2010, 06:02 PM
lobo 79 looks a bit more practical with the burris red dot than the eotech.

ChristopherG
December 18, 2010, 06:13 PM
Virtually everyone who shoots a double action revolver in competition shoots a S&W (as noted above). This is not because competition shooters are snobs; it's because they try things and find out what works. The critical factor in shooting a double-action revolver is the double action trigger; and S&W has a better double action trigger than Taurus, across the board, no doubt. I've never owned a Taurus because I had already shot a couple years of revolver competition before I had the chance to pull the triggers on a couple of them; and when I pulled the triggers, I set them down and walked away.

The 627 is a fine revolver; you won't regret waiting and saving for it.

Lobo_79
December 18, 2010, 06:31 PM
lobo 79 looks a bit more practical with the burris red dot than the eotech.

Not to get too far away from this thread...
I also use the Nikon Monarch Variable Dot but the Burris is quicker.
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz154/Lobo_79/Smith_Wesson/627_Nikon_Color_1.jpg

Steve_NEPhila
December 19, 2010, 02:16 AM
The eotech is absolutely practical for what I use it for, and that is bullseye shooting. That picture is not a carry set up, well not for me anyway. For bullseye the extra weight really helps and it shoots astoundingly well.

Tomcat47
December 19, 2010, 02:37 AM
I think the Taurus 608 is awesome and practical.

I would keep my money and buy the Taurus. Accurate, Affordable, Warranted!

Smiths are nice too,........If you got nothing but money and time, go for the smith. If you got a budget for your toys like me Buy the Taurus, Sounds like it fits yours needs,expectations,and your budget.

Go shooting!

Darth_guy101
December 19, 2010, 02:48 AM
I was able to get a $300 gift, so i am gonna get the smith. I would buy the Taurus if i hadn't have gotten the "assistance".

Darth_guy101
December 20, 2010, 02:32 AM
Hooray for Christmas bonuses!

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